| Posted by: dj11 at March 8, 2007, 5:13 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Hott,
I took from Ralphs post a pun, he lost, and the AVATAR he lost to was ugly. And if it is the one I think it is, it is UGLY!
I saw nothing resembling a slur, but some good natured wordplay. Lest you think it is not, remember that BBB has a high pair.
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| Posted by: hott_estelle at March 8, 2007, 3:05 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by RochesterRalph
Hi Estelle,
I remembered your post today and i was in a ring game on Full Tilt and what i presumed to be a woman (name and avatar /the ugly green one). Kept raisin in to me three times when i had the nuts . I only called and after each hand there was some chat at the table. Nothin nasty all in humor. Until i said "did you ever see anything that ugly " and she left the table. I dont think that is any different that what the men do. I hope she didn't think it was sexist. Poker has to be played the same whoever it is.
Um, I don't understand. Are you saying that you do insult and abuse women at the poker table? If so, then I don't think advertising this is a great idea at this forum or anywhere else.
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| Posted by: RochesterRalph at March 8, 2007, 2:40 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Hi Estelle,
I remembered your post today and i was in a ring game on Full Tilt and what i presumed to be a woman (name and avatar /the ugly green one). Kept raisin in to me three times when i had the nuts . I only called and after each hand there was some chat at the table. Nothin nasty all in humor. Until i said "did you ever see anything that ugly " and she left the table. I dont think that is any different that what the men do. I hope she didn't think it was sexist. Poker has to be played the same whoever it is.
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| Posted by: james222 at March 7, 2007, 3:18 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
i havent really witnessed the name calling but have noticed how some men play women differently. To me it seems like alot of men try too hard to win every pot s women. Alot of times ill see them play over aggressive thinking they can intimidate them. And i also have seen some ery loose calls almost as if they are afraid of being bluffed by a woman. so if your a good woman player you should profit well from their mistakes. hmm After thinking about this makes me want to make up a new account on a pokersite with a girls name and a pic of a cute girl. ill prolly make more money
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| Posted by: hott_estelle at March 7, 2007, 12:15 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Lana_Faith
I can ouch for the name calling, etc. It does happen and It's not pretty. Yesterday I was playing in a freeroll and happened to take down a huge pot largely by getting a good read on the all-in player as having a straight to the K, when I had outs to the flush and the boat. When the boat came on the river, you should have seen some of the commentary... it ran the gamut from namecalling to open threats against my life. That's a good time to simply close the chat box, take a good long sip of coffee and remember that life is good and donkeys suck at poker.
Well, yes this type of behavior is seen online quite a bit. But one has to realize, that most likely the guy saying that stuff to you, is most likely some guy who normally live, wouldn't have the guts to say it to a woman's face. I think behavior is ery different online than it is live, although I have experienced abuse from men at the poker table in live play as well. It's just something w... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Lana_Faith at March 6, 2007, 11:24 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
I can ouch for the name calling, etc. It does happen and It's not pretty. Yesterday I was playing in a freeroll and happened to take down a huge pot largely by getting a good read on the all-in player as having a straight to the K, when I had outs to the flush and the boat. When the boat came on the river, you should have seen some of the commentary... it ran the gamut from namecalling to open threats against my life. That's a good time to simply close the chat box, take a good long sip of coffee and remember that life is good and donkeys suck at poker.
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| Posted by: MrSticker at March 6, 2007, 9:41 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
As I always tell people, my mom raised me. She's 5'2", but a ery strong woman on the inside. I guess that is why I can relate to women so well. She taught me what women like and about their feelings, but also to respect them the same as a man. You never know when you'll have a woman boss (I've had a few).
I also guess that is why I can treat a woman competitor, in poker or anything else, with the exact same intensity as a man. I'd never hit a woman, but I'd go after just as many of her chips, no matter how fine she is. Just ask JQ.
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| Posted by: Heraclitus at March 6, 2007, 9:29 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
I admit that my mind wanders a bit when a good looking woman plays the game... there is nothing sexier than a woman proficient at poker, pool, or golf. And reactions of fools makes taking their chips sweet indeed.
I have no sympathy for the 'wounded fawn' routine... I have seen several men lose their stacks to silly little girls who just came to watch their boyfriends play.
I am wary that lustful thoughts may occasionally cloud my judgment. But I am never ungracious to a well played hand.
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| Posted by: pokerrqueenn at March 6, 2007, 1:52 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
excellent article indeed estelle....women can take advantage of this situation. the ignorant men that think we can't play are usually the first ones to lose to a skilled woman.let them talk their crap and then smile politely as you take their chips. take advantage of their handicap in beleiving women can't play a great game of poker
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| Posted by: Shoestringx at March 6, 2007, 9:15 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Not really as bad as swearing at or threatening a women.... but I do have an entertaining story from titan awhile back:
It was a low limit 6max table, 5 men avatars and 1 women avatar. The women in question had chosen an avatar with a red dress and a "healthy" look to her.
One of the guys started filling up the chat box with questions, it progressed kinda like this:
Loser Guy: Are you really a women?
Women: Yes.
Loser Guy: Do you look like your avatar?
Women: No.
Loser Guy: What do you look like?
pause
Loser Guy: Why aren't you answering me?
pause
Women: Cause I'm here to play poker.
Loser Guy: Oh, are you hot?
At this point the whole table started heckling this guy, making fun of him etc. etc. etc. And after a long pause the women replies:
Women: Of course I'm hot, but I'm also 67 years old.
I laughed.
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| Posted by: aloevera at March 6, 2007, 8:26 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Great thread Estelle +rep I have to say myself on numerous occassions have experience the abuse you are talking of. I am treated much differently when using my Aloevera compared to Alevera they know i'm a female but when I use Alevera they think I'm male lmfao. Taking money from men is not pleasant (NOT ALL MEN) and it doesn't matter what site it is at, its all the same. I do my best to keep the conversation tame and sometimes I do and sometimes I don't, then I make a decision as too what is the best thing for me too do to achieve the reason why I am here in the first place which is ITM thats when I say I have them but the NUTS and take them out!!!
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| Posted by: jayneseo at March 6, 2007, 8:03 am | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
I know this is a little old but its a good post. +rep
Alot of people online see my name and think I'm a girl (Jayne) and then when they find out I'm not I noticed that they DO play and act differently towards me. Some people are ery nice to me when they think I'm a girl and some are ery nasty. Just depends on the character of the opponents.
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| Posted by: RochesterRalph at February 24, 2007, 11:35 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Estelle...i haven't seen much of the bad talk at women ( once i remember) but i find that most women play more aggressive at each other than the men s. women. Thats no bull. I play no different who it is...the cards dictate my play. Good Luck.
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| Posted by: Egon Towst at February 24, 2007, 10:18 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Poker requires no physical strength, and there is no reason why a woman cannot be equally as effective as a man.
This is self-evident. Any man who lacks the intellect to work this out is unlikely to be smart enough to play solid poker either.
Take his chips, shouldn`t be too difficult.
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| Posted by: hott_estelle at February 24, 2007, 10:11 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Oh also, someone posted this comment where this blog was posted. Anyone know if there is any truth to this. If there is, go Kathy, and great for Howard for sticking up for her.
Comment posted by wachinpntdry "I was observing a gsme in Mississippi one day. The table had Howard Lederer and Kathy Lieberman along with some amateurs. Kathy won a rather large pot fromHoward. He told her what a great job she did and congratulatred her. All of a sudden one of the others started getting mouthy and abusive with Kathy. He balled her the "B" word and Howard told him he was treading where he didn't belong. The mouthy guy stood up and punched Howard and told Kathy she was next. Evidentilly this moron did not know Kathy is a black belt. When he attacked her, she turned him everyway but loose. The man was arrested and the game was rescheduled. That just proves that abuse has its consequences. Go Kathy. I am a real Annie Duke fan. I don't think she is just one of the best women players, I think s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: hott_estelle at February 24, 2007, 10:08 pm | | Topic: Women in Poker and how men play differently against us Forum: Card Chat |
Thought this was a ery interesting and true blog. I know there are quite a few women players on this forum, so I thought it would apply to a lot of us.
I realize that some guys don't mean to, and other guys do, but I notice that men play differently against me--especially in live play--than against another man. They seem to be a lot more agressive and want to beat me more. I don't know if I give a weak ibe, or I guys just want the satisfaciton of beating a woman, but they always seem to push, push, push against me. It's as if they have less respect for my poker abilities because I'm a woman and they're men; I try to use this to my advantage, but I'm just wondering why this is the case? Anyways, here's the blog that isn't exactly what I was talking about, but also is pretty interesting observation.
WOMEN IN POKER-submitted by AceKickerCA
"THE BUZZ" is a bi-weekly production run by me, Buzzbball04. Originally named the "BLOG OF THE WEEK," THE BUZZ comes out ... | | Read Entire Entry |
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