| Posted by: stormswa at June 27, 2007, 5:54 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by gord962
Personally, I think those are okay for a full table, but not for a 6max table. I expect opponents to play almost 22% on the 6 max tables.
I dont take any single number to decide how good someone is I use stats together. If someone is a 22.2 but only 8 PFR im pegging him as fish right away.
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| Posted by: stormswa at June 27, 2007, 5:38 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by aliengenius
As far a p$ip the rules I use draw the lines at 22 and 35, with anything in between those numbers "slightly loose" (with a good aggro. factor this is where a LAG would be). PFR should be 75% of p$ip according to GreenPlastic (fairly well know internet pro).
also know as taylor.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at June 27, 2007, 5:34 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
As far a p$ip the rules I use draw the lines at 22 and 35, with anything in between those numbers "slightly loose" (with a good aggro. factor this is where a LAG would be). PFR should be 75% of p$ip according to GreenPlastic (fairly well know internet pro).
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| Posted by: arkadiy at June 27, 2007, 4:51 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by bw07507
I am running quite hot right now, and I think the limping too much is my small blind completion. I just cant resist not playing out of the small blind most of the time, something I really have to fix.
Lol I was just talking about having the same problem
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| Posted by: bw07507 at June 27, 2007, 4:49 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote:
standard tag is 12% to 18%, lag would be 18% to late 20%. anything under 10% is a nit and anything over 30% is maniac.
as for your stats I would concider it Lag boarderline maniac. but it could also mean you are just running real hot right now. I would like to see your raise percentage preflop to be closer to your VPIP, I think you are limping too much.
I am running quite hot right now, and I think the limping too much is my small blind completion. I just cant resist not playing out of the small blind most of the time, something I really have to fix.
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| Posted by: stormswa at June 27, 2007, 4:27 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
Is this your personal opinion or is this from a documented source?
I would tend to debate that a player with 21/7/1.6 is not necessarily a fish. Sure the 1.6 is passive, but IMO the 21 is not quite loose enough for a fish and the 7 is not quite passive enough PF. I'd say he was closer to a Rock. I'd also say a 25/5/1.5 is your borderline fish.
Just my opinion.
are you not comparing his PFR to his VPIP?
that is what makes him a fish not just his pip?
there is no documented source, its all about reading the numbers and formulating your own opinion.
but in most people I have ever talked to a 27/7/1.6 is big time fish and a calling station.
if his aggression would be higher I would call him boarderline LAG/Maniac
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| Posted by: MrSticker at June 27, 2007, 4:20 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by stormswa
standard tag is 12% to 18%, lag would be 18% to late 20%. anything under 10% is a nit and anything over 30% is maniac.
Is this your personal opinion or is this from a documented source?
I would tend to debate that a player with 21/7/1.6 is not necessarily a fish. Sure the 1.6 is passive, but IMO the 21 is not quite loose enough for a fish and the 7 is not quite passive enough PF. I'd say he was closer to a Rock. I'd also say a 25/5/1.5 is your borderline fish.
Just my opinion.
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| Posted by: stormswa at June 27, 2007, 4:04 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by bw07507
what would u classify these stats as?
VPIP: 29.6
PF Raise: 19.8
AF: 2.78
lol these are actually my stats, just curious how you would classify me.
And, the 18.8 VPIP person that you have classified as LAG I would consider 18.8 VPIP as more TAG than LAG, I dont see too many people (maybe 1 out of 10) with that low of a VPIP in many of the games I play at bodog.
standard tag is 12% to 18%, lag would be 18% to late 20%. anything under 10% is a nit and anything over 30% is maniac.
as for your stats I would concider it Lag boarderline maniac. but it could also mean you are just running real hot right now. I would like to see your raise percentage preflop to be closer to your VPIP, I think you are limping too much.
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| Posted by: bw07507 at June 27, 2007, 3:26 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
what would u classify these stats as?
VPIP: 29.6
PF Raise: 19.8
AF: 2.78
lol these are actually my stats, just curious how you would classify me.
And, the 18.8 VPIP person that you have classified as LAG I would consider 18.8 VPIP as more TAG than LAG, I dont see too many people (maybe 1 out of 10) with that low of a VPIP in many of the games I play at bodog.
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| Posted by: stormswa at June 27, 2007, 2:26 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Effexor
It would help if you had which each stat was.
am I correct here?
Left side:
VP$IP
PFR % ?
Aggression factor? postflop aggression.
Right side
Not sure what the first one is. - went to showdown.
# of hands you have info on
total profit / loss ?
yes everything you said was right, sorry about that forgot to put that.
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| Posted by: stormswa at June 27, 2007, 1:44 pm | | Topic: finding the fish at your tables using pokeracehud Forum: Card Chat |
ok wanted to do a post to kind of show you how to find the bad players at your tables. I will number the seats as they appear in pictures.
finding the fish.JPG
1. Not enough info on this player
2. Not enough info on this player
3. No info on this player
4. Looks like the start of a maniac style player
these are the players we check out strong
hand to and fold marginal ones.
5. Boarderline Nit/Tag these are the players we can
take control of the hand and will pay off use if they
also have a strong peice, but be careful they only
run top hands. If he is betting get out of hand if he is
checking bluff him.
6. Total fish - he runs too many hands and
is way too passive, just price him in
all the way down.
finding the fish 2.JPG
1. total maniac - Just let him bluff off to us
2. A lag that seems to have gotten unlucky
good pip, good agression but needs
to raise more preflop.
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