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Posted by: OzExorcist at August 29, 2007, 7:16 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

Right - think I'd gotten the wrong end of the stick about the US laws then.

Ours are interesting because the specifically allow things like sports betting: basically, they're just there to stop online casinos. I don't think they extend to the financial providers either, just the site operators.
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Posted by: Effexor at August 29, 2007, 7:06 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by OzExorcist

It could be worse though - at least the laws in the US are fairly clear cut. In Australia, online poker is governed by a massive grey area: it's illegal for anyone to provide the service to us, but it doesn't say anything one way or the other about penalties for any of us using said service.

In the US, it's the same exact situation. From a federal iewpoint it's technically not illegal. There are some states that have specific laws but for the most of us it's as murky as it can get.

from: Online Poker FAQ - The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act - what does it mean for players, which sites are staying open?

about the UIGEA
The new law does make any type of online gambling illegal. It refers only to forms of online gambling that are already illegal due to other laws. For example, at the federal level the 1961 Wire Act makes it illegal to operate an online sports-betting business (but not to be a customer). At th...
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Posted by: OzExorcist at August 29, 2007, 6:53 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by broncos53

There are SO many people who play illegally there is not a chance in hell youll get caught dont worry about it play have fun win money!

The original Napster users said much the same thing

It could be worse though - at least the laws in the US are fairly clear cut. In Australia, online poker is governed by a massive grey area: it's illegal for anyone to provide the service to us, but it doesn't say anything one way or the other about penalties for any of us using said service.
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Posted by: broncos53 at August 29, 2007, 3:28 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by akeller83

hi, i live in washington where online gambling is currently illegal but its somewhat ague. does anyone know if it is illegal to play a freeroll tourny since you aren't actually placing bets?

There are SO many people who play illegally there is not a chance in hell youll get caught dont worry about it play have fun win money!
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Posted by: reglardave at August 29, 2007, 3:25 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

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Quote: Originally Posted by pigpen02

Tell that to the NETeller execs.

Ahhm but the NETeller folks were apprehended on US and A soil, attempting to skulkaround and change planes . That brazen act alone nearly earned them life before a firing squad.

A pig in a polk by comparison.
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Posted by: pigpen02 at August 29, 2007, 2:35 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

Tell that to the NETeller execs.
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Posted by: reglardave at August 29, 2007, 1:41 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by OzExorcist

*apologises in advance for the scaremongering*

I don't live in the US so I've got no idea about the legality... but should someone decide it's illegal and decide to prosecute, it's not a big deal for them to obtain a list of players from the site and prosecute them all at once. Look at the Napster case

Since none of the poker sites in question are actually located in the US, I would discount this threat. I doubt they have any legal recourse to obtain foreign mailing lists.
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Posted by: royalburrito24 at August 29, 2007, 12:57 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

I have no idea if its illegal to play in my hometown, i should check in to that
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Posted by: pigpen02 at August 29, 2007, 12:52 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

eek!
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Posted by: OzExorcist at August 29, 2007, 12:51 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

*apologises in advance for the scaremongering*

I don't live in the US so I've got no idea about the legality... but should someone decide it's illegal and decide to prosecute, it's not a big deal for them to obtain a list of players from the site and prosecute them all at once. Look at the Napster case
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Posted by: strongbower at August 28, 2007, 2:04 pm
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

Yea, i dont think the police will spend $1,000's trapping down the odd freeroll player
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Posted by: Wild Rivers at August 28, 2007, 1:59 pm
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

Technically speaking it probably is still illegal, as you're still playing for money, and it is most likely legally unimportant who puts up the money that is being played for. I'm just speculating, though.

In practice, there is most likely a 0.00000001% chance of you actually being prosecuted even if it is illegal.

The percentage may be a bit higher than that...those who don't live here in the home of anti-gaming legislation may have never seen Bible thumping evangalistic "moral police" in action!
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Posted by: strongbower at August 28, 2007, 1:53 pm
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

I think it comes down to being a gift, so its still legal. But dont hold me to that
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Posted by: Dorkus Malorkus at August 28, 2007, 1:47 pm
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

Technically speaking it probably is still illegal, as you're still playing for money, and it is most likely legally unimportant who puts up the money that is being played for. I'm just speculating, though.

In practice, there is most likely a 0.00000001% chance of you actually being prosecuted even if it is illegal.
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Posted by: akeller83 at August 28, 2007, 11:23 am
Topic: freeroll legality Forum: Card Chat

hi, i live in washington where online gambling is currently illegal but its somewhat ague. does anyone know if it is illegal to play a freeroll tourny since you aren't actually placing bets?
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