| Posted by: 4aces07 at September 28, 2007, 5:45 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Mopar384
Yes, I believe its true that online poker sites like to create controversy by giving many people pocket pairs at once. I have seen as many as four people with pocket pairs in the same hand. I was beaten while holding Aces full of kings (pocket pair Aces), by a pocket pair of kings (four Kings). I have quit playing some sites because it happens WAY too much there.
It can happen live also.
YouTube - Icecold deck poker hand (unbelievable)
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mopar384 at September 28, 2007, 5:32 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Yes, I believe its true that online poker sites like to create controversy by giving many people pocket pairs at once. I have seen as many as four people with pocket pairs in the same hand. I was beaten while holding Aces full of kings (pocket pair Aces), by a pocket pair of kings (four Kings). I have quit playing some sites because it happens WAY too much there.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mopar384 at September 28, 2007, 5:25 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
What he is trying to say - is that people cheat because they CAN. Not because they need the money. Oil companies could retire right now, but they'll never have enough money. Its a fact that people who want to be rich in order to have money to spend, don't get rich. Its the people that pinch pennies now AND afterwards who are millionaires. GREED! They even did a story about it on tv.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: diabloblanco at August 18, 2005, 2:47 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Crippler
You insult my intelligence constantly in your post yet I have never directly singled you out on this site ever. Frankly you weren't even an afterthought until you took it upon yourself in the above to speak about my intellect or close-mindedness which you know nothing about either, so who does that make ignorant? Grab a dictionary if you need one.
I have a difference of opinion than you, obviously, but I have never personally attacked you regarding this. You are obviously have a bit of a complex that you should probably go seek some professional help to get over. Inferiority maybe?
This topic has been debated ad-nauseum on every single poker forum on the web and NOBODY has EVER provided EVEN ONE shred of evidence that online poker is rigged. That should tell you something, but I am not surprised by your obvious lack of rational thought.
Here's the part that I don't get; you aregue with me about my post and call me inflamitory names and make derogitory state... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: robwhufc at August 18, 2005, 8:35 am | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
My advice would be to keep to the big, well known sites or those owned by established UK bookmakers. Stay away from companies with no players, new start ups and companies with seemingly overly generous bonus offers.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crippler450 at August 18, 2005, 6:08 am | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by diabloblanco
it doesn't prove anything in relation to online pokers alidity. Neither do all the other posts he's made about them being rigged. Can it be done? Of course. Is it done? That has yet to be proven. And until its is proven, then the people that think it is rigged have the responsibility to alidate their claims with factual evidence supporting them, not the other way around. Why should the majority of people--those that believe online poker is on the up and up--have to prove that the minority of tinfiol hatters are wrong, when they have yet to ever provide even a shred of real evidence that they're right? Think about it.
I think there is just as much responsibility to 'prove' that online sites are legit as there is to 'prove' that they may be rigged. After all, if someone who can comprehend the mere chance that even one of the unregulated (yep, no laws protecting us) online poker sites may by some chance be rigged is WRONG (meaning they are ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: abc at August 17, 2005, 11:23 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by diabloblanco
Exactly, that whole thing had nothing to do with online poker being rigged, which is precisely why I asked for links to the information. ABC got burned on some business entures and one of the culprits happened to be a casino owner. Sucks for him and all that, but it doesn't prove anything in relation to online pokers alidity. Neither do all the other posts he's made about them being rigged. Can it be done? Of course. Is it done? That has yet to be proven. And until its is proven, then the people that think it is rigged have the responsibility to alidate their claims with factual evidence supporting them, not the other way around. Why should the majority of people--those that believe online poker is on the up and up--have to prove that the minority of tinfiol hatters are wrong, when they have yet to ever provide even a shred of real evidence that they're right? Think about it.
Ok I understand, why do Market Analyst have to cheat?
why ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: HughHefner at August 17, 2005, 7:06 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
what i dont get is why would online poker be rigged in the first place? you dont think a CASINO can make money without cheating? come on...we all know casinos are the winners no matter what. they rake the pots...they get money...they dont gamble...they have NO reason to cheat. ive heard crackpot 'make the cards so pots are bigger for a bigger rake' theory...doesnt hold up! why? because if they did it, they may get caught, and that IS a gamble. Casinos DO NOT GAMBLE. they win....so there is no reasont hey would ever be cheating.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: diabloblanco at August 17, 2005, 2:40 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Exactly, that whole thing had nothing to do with online poker being rigged, which is precisely why I asked for links to the information. ABC got burned on some business entures and one of the culprits happened to be a casino owner. Sucks for him and all that, but it doesn't prove anything in relation to online pokers alidity. Neither do all the other posts he's made about them being rigged. Can it be done? Of course. Is it done? That has yet to be proven. And until its is proven, then the people that think it is rigged have the responsibility to alidate their claims with factual evidence supporting them, not the other way around. Why should the majority of people--those that believe online poker is on the up and up--have to prove that the minority of tinfiol hatters are wrong, when they have yet to ever provide even a shred of real evidence that they're right? Think about it.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: abc at August 17, 2005, 1:44 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Mixter X
well, although it took me a while to read all the information i'm scared!
things like this i hear about but never read into the details.
i'm sorry you got stung!
It isn't only the money, but psychologically damage, is often much greater.
Thus be careful when you lose your money Online, because you do not only ruin your own bank account, but often the lives around you, too!
This has nothing to do, with the issue, "are OC rigged" just in general, be responsible!
Luck
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mixter X at August 17, 2005, 9:49 am | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
well, although it took me a while to read all the information i'm scared!
things like this i hear about but never read into the details.
i'm sorry you got stung!
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: abc at August 16, 2005, 10:09 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by diabloblanco
abc
You personally lost 1.5 Million U.S.? Also, can you please provide sources as to the second scheme involving the casino owner and him being involved in the money grab. Not that it has anything relavent to do with online pokers legitimacy, I just would like to read the story. Thanks.
Local casino here
goes irtual on Web
Monday, 7.JUNY 2004
By the A.M. Costa Rica staff
The Casino Europa, located in the Radisson Hotel in San José, has gone online with a Web camera hookup that allows individuals all over the world to gamble ia Internet.
Online casinos are not unusual, but this is believed to be the first time that an established casino in Costa Rica has branched out to Internet customers.
The Europa said it is the largest land-based operation in Costa Rica with three separate gambling facilities: Casino Europa, Tropical Casino and the Royal Dutch Casino. All are in San José.
&q... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: xdmanx007 at August 16, 2005, 9:31 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
abc kinda says the same thing I have been saying forever. There are people in the world who have no intrest in making money over a long period of time when they can screw you over and make some real fast! Which is why we will never be sure until the US decides to embrace and regulate our beloved industry!
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: diabloblanco at August 16, 2005, 9:19 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
abc
You personally lost 1.5 Million U.S.? Also, can you please provide sources as to the second scheme involving the casino owner and him being involved in the money grab. Not that it has anything relavent to do with online pokers legitimacy, I just would like to read the story. Thanks.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: twizzybop at August 16, 2005, 7:24 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Never changed my opinion.. still believe that the Royal Flush comes up way to many times. However I also believe that the bad beats come more often based apon there are more players that are the "LOOSE AGGRESIVE" type especially online. Because the feel of the game isn't so "Real" to them.
This part says it all "They act irrationally... play hands they shouldn't
play... and bet way too aggressively for most
given situations."
Now I will admit I took that post directly from an e-mail I was reading. I get a few e-mails about poker, hold-em and what nots. I keep them saved so that I can always have a fresh perspective.
Besides one always needs an open mind to a subject that is neither proven nor disproven.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: abc at August 15, 2005, 9:50 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Like some, I do think online poker is rigged!
I was invited to invest in a ONLINE Sports Book, just opened there doors a few days ago.
One of the Owners is a ery good old friend, ( one good reason not to invest )
in the near future he will go Online with a OC and later if it all works out with Online Poker.
This group developed there own Software for the OSB, but will buy the Software for the OC.
One day, I ask him what he thinks about rigged OP and OC!
its easy and possible he respond to me.
One can tell me, why should one go for 1 million when he can make 50 million at the same TIME?
Had almost 3 years ago a BAD BEAT, lost almost 1,5 million U$ in two independent Ponzi Schemes.
There where 6289 investors involved in the first one:
Total loss about 500 - 900 million U$.
The Second involved about 2500 investors and a
Total loss an estimated 200 million.
The funny Part, if there is any: The Second company to close there doors , ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: diabloblanco at August 15, 2005, 7:37 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Twizzy, who is posting under your username? Lol, I'm kidding...but why the change of opinion? Nice post.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: Crippler450 at August 15, 2005, 7:24 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by abc
There is NO reason to believe OC's aren't rigged!
IMHO it's a ague to say, because they make a lot of MONEY!
Why do Mutual Funds, Stockmarkets, Investment Advisers etc. screw the people over.
THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, don't they?
There are also a lot of OC they do not make a lot of MONEY, RIGHT?
They can't get there Poker Rooms going , so is there an opening to get you scewed?
just a thought!
I dont really agree with this (At least for all but 1 site...but i wont get into that), but i'd rather be on the safe side and assume that they COULD be rigged then put all of my trust in an unregulated site whose sole goal is to make as much money as possible. It never hurts to be cautious.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: abc at August 15, 2005, 7:02 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
There is NO reason to believe OC's aren't rigged!
IMHO it's a ague to say, because they make a lot of MONEY!
Why do Mutual Funds, Stockmarkets, Investment Advisers etc. screw the people over.
THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, don't they?
There are also a lot of OC they do not make a lot of MONEY, RIGHT?
They can't get there Poker Rooms going , so is there an opening to get you scewed?
just a thought!
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: twizzybop at August 15, 2005, 6:18 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Now to put a spin on the rigged theory and it deals a million more hands online theory...
There are two types of bad beats:
BAD BEAT #1...
When you catch a monster hand but lose to a BIGGER
monster hand.
For example, let's say you're holding pocket Aces
and the flop hits A-6-6. That means you've got a
full house.
Your opponent goes ALL-IN... and you call. You
think your Aces are the best hand but they're NOT,
because your opponent has pocket sixes, which
gives him the four-of-a-kind.
BAD BEAT #2...
When YOU have the best hand and your opponent has
the WORST hand but your opponent GETS LUCKY and
wins the pot.
For example, let's say you have pocket Aces and go
all-in. Your opponent calls with pocket three's.
The flop hits 2-4-5 and the turn card is a 6,
giving your opponent the STRAIGHT and causing you
to lose the hand.
Now that's a bad beat.
... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: jeterkid925 at August 14, 2005, 7:07 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by JediQuest
In every forum theres always the rigged post.I get so sick and tired of hearing this, its poker sh*t happens. I wish these post would get deleted as soon as there posted.
in every forum their are people who just postso they could get in the freeroll, and I hate that.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: JediQuest at August 14, 2005, 4:19 pm | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
In every forum theres always the rigged post.I get so sick and tired of hearing this, its poker sh*t happens. I wish these post would get deleted as soon as there posted.
| | Static Link |
| Posted by: $I Need Money$ at August 14, 2005, 10:15 am | | Topic: Is Online Poker rigged Forum: Card Chat |
well guys I played a freeroll today and I noticed something ery interesting. I read something about if your a holding a pair then odds are so is someone else. well im starting to believe that now.
Alastair John is at seat 0 with 3730.
jochg2121 is at seat 1 with 510.
OffRoadGrrl2 is at seat 2 with 5795.
hero is at seat 3 with 5130.
vote4pdro is at seat 4 with 1525.
Shadow_13 is at seat 5 with 2855.
unfocused is at seat 6 with 1430.
Mongoose is at seat 7 with 540.
DubSatchel2 is at seat 8 with 580.
rizzo116 is at seat 9 with 2640.
The button is at seat 0.
jochg2121 posts the small blind of 15.
OffRoadGrrl2 posts the big blind of 30.
Alastair John: -- --
jochg2121: -- --
OffRoadGrrl2: -- --
Hero: 2h Jh
vote4pdro: -- --
Shadow_13: -- --
unfocused: -- --
Mongoose: -- --
DubSatchel2: -- --
rizzo116: -- --
Pre-flop:
Hero folds. ote4pdro folds. Shadow_13 calls.
unfocused calls. Mongoose fold... | | Read Entire Entry |
|