| Posted by: quads at October 8, 2007, 11:13 am | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by jonfelkin
Who cares about Bots? Arnt bots the kinda opponent you want to play againts always playing the percentages even when a human would guess they are behind, If i was Full Tilt i would say come here you can beat the Bots easy they will call as long as you give them good odds on there bottom pair.
Obviously, the bots are doing well enough (probably at lower stakes) for the site to make an announcement about them, along with refunding moneys. This certainly would point the ears of players, and not the type of advertising they had in mind. For a site to announce this, it must be a serious problem there. Regardless it's not the major threat for online poker.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at October 7, 2007, 10:29 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
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the kinda opponent you want to play againts always playing the percentages
Isn't that called "A Pro"?
Even though you might like your chances, there are, and have been bots that make/have made a great deal of money in the long-term, solely based on percentages and programming. A group of people using the same bot sit down at 10 tables each and you've got problems I would think. Collusion, etc..?
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| Posted by: jonfelkin at October 7, 2007, 10:07 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
Who cares about Bots? Arnt bots the kinda opponent you want to play againts always playing the percentages even when a human would guess they are behind, If i was Full Tilt i would say come here you can beat the Bots easy they will call as long as you give them good odds on there bottom pair.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at October 7, 2007, 9:49 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
At least they're not just denying and ignoring things that might be going on. It could be a lot worse, though I wonder how those PPA freerolls fill up somehow after running for the past couple months. I suppose Stars just doesn't pay out money to multiple/re-entrants. You know you're in trouble when obvious shit is going down and no one cares and can do anything about it. I applaud the sites obvious public attempts to tell people they are trying, even if they hardly care. What people don't notice or can't see, can't hurt them, huh?
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| Posted by: julyangels at October 7, 2007, 9:20 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
I'm just trying to think how much money I have lost to cheaters? It really never enters my mind when I sit at a table online, quite unfortunate. Why does it have to get ruined, when it was to be more than this? Just a bummer.
~july
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| Posted by: quads at October 7, 2007, 6:27 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
I thought the bots were at Full Tilt, not Bodog. Maybe both?
Think your right Stick. Sorry about that. At least Full Tilt admitted it, in an obvious attempt to make us think they have it under control. LOL
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| Posted by: bbd7777 at October 7, 2007, 6:07 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
the first poster was right... online poker is a joke... i have been thru the whole meat grinder and come out on the other side... all i do not is play the freerolls to waste time at work ... i wouldnt deposit another nickel.. ive seen to much... just check for mariojr on full tilt... he plays 9 tables at once 1/2 dollar and doesnt always win every pot but quits once hes a certain percentage ahead... playing online poker has been a great experience for me being in ta state that doesnt have casinos, i was able to experience tournament poker without having to lose a crap load of money or go to egas and lose a couple grand trying to learn the basics...
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| Posted by: MrVictrum at October 7, 2007, 5:54 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
I've always wonder how some players get online play calling with crappy hands that wouldn't have a chance in a live game. I mean come on now , you got to admit that you wouldn't be in a tourney calling an Allin with 7 4 off suit against poket K's or A's and winning, I know that it's poker but let's be real!!!
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| Posted by: quads at October 7, 2007, 5:20 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
Collusion teams much more serious then most want to admit. Also runs rampart throughout college dorms.
There are big member teams, that mix it up so well, will never get nailed. These teams are smart enough not to concentrate on big stakes, considering the lack of action up there.
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| Posted by: nevadanick at October 7, 2007, 4:56 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
Not much of a surprise. Online players and hackers haven't invented cheating, they just keeping refining THEIR skills. Why learn how to play poker and contend with Lady Luck when you can have it ALL...??...
From just what I have seen, Pokerstars seems to put the most effort and money into site safety, fairness and security. But then, they should. They are the biggest online poker cardroom.
There was a forum post recently on another poker social site where one of the members reported opening their e-mail one morning to find a note from Pokerstars that 'x' amount of dollars had been refunded to their account. Reason - redistributing funds to players who lost due to collusion at the table they were playing at. They weren't even aware of the collusion at the time.
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| Posted by: KMC1828 at October 7, 2007, 3:46 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by thielcats
Hmmm...interesting post. The thing about Pokerstars is unreal.
no its not. its completely realistic. the winning account wasnt in the guy's name.
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| Posted by: quads at October 7, 2007, 3:22 pm | | Topic: Online "RIGGED AND CHEATERS" Forum: Card Chat |
With all that’s been taking place lately with online poker, it amazes me that so many people act surprised, or still believe playing online is safe and the same as live.
1) High stakes cheaters on Absolute. (Seeing other players cards)
2) Bodog reimbursing players from BOT infestation.
3) Poker Stars freezing winners purse from multi-accounting in WCOOP 5 million.
This is only what the sites were forced to contend with. Imagine what was swept under the carpet over the years trying to protect the integrity of online poker.
The biggest threat of course without having an insider at a site, is the pro. collusion teams. I personally know a poker player from a local live club, who was part of a team that was nailed at Poker Stars. Their accounts were seized and all the players were banned. Total seized was over $7,000.00 dollars from 5 players. Not one word was printed about this incident, or what they did with the money.
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