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Posted by: wako at November 6, 2007, 11:31 am
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
Bullajami wrote: Your data is not likely to be very much better than the Bonus Grid here at BW. How many times have the various iPoker rooms changed their bonus terms in the past 18 months? Each time they do the bonus chasers react accordingly (flooding or fleeing the site) and the data is impacted.

I'd love a perfect system for bonus and rakeback evaluations, but I don't think its realistic. Good Luck though!

For newbies Bull's word about bonuses is written in stone
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Posted by: daraider at November 5, 2007, 4:55 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
Mitch wrote: daraider wrote: What someone really needs to do, is forget about getting the databases.

Code a little calculator. Then put the bonus terms and conditions in then you run YOUR data through it and it gives you an accurate rate based upon YOUR play.

Anything which comes down to being based on other peoples play will never reflect it accuratly.

For example. I play O8 fairly tight and don't play that many hands. I make a lot of money playing O8. I know another play who has a winrate similar to mine. He plays almost twice as many hands. For him rb/bonus may gather much faster (depending on ths site) but we are both playing legit profitable styles.

Actually now i have said it sounds like a really good idea i might actually do it.

Please tell me you are talking about the calculator and not giving this guy you PT database?

Also the Calculator sounds like an awesome idea.

lol nobody is getting my databases mine...
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Posted by: Mitch at November 5, 2007, 4:42 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
daraider wrote: What someone really needs to do, is forget about getting the databases.

Code a little calculator. Then put the bonus terms and conditions in then you run YOUR data through it and it gives you an accurate rate based upon YOUR play.

Anything which comes down to being based on other peoples play will never reflect it accuratly.

For example. I play O8 fairly tight and don't play that many hands. I make a lot of money playing O8. I know another play who has a winrate similar to mine. He plays almost twice as many hands. For him rb/bonus may gather much faster (depending on ths site) but we are both playing legit profitable styles.

Actually now i have said it sounds like a really good idea i might actually do it.

Please tell me you are talking about the calculator and not giving this guy you PT database?

Also the Calculator sounds like an awesome idea.
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Posted by: Mitch at November 5, 2007, 4:41 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
I don't think you will get many experienced players to give you their databases.

Sure this isn't a scam so you can have Millions of hands on everyone?
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Posted by: daraider at November 5, 2007, 4:36 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
What someone really needs to do, is forget about getting the databases.

Code a little calculator. Then put the bonus terms and conditions in then you run YOUR data through it and it gives you an accurate rate based upon YOUR play.

Anything which comes down to being based on other peoples play will never reflect it accuratly.

For example. I play O8 fairly tight and don't play that many hands. I make a lot of money playing O8. I know another play who has a winrate similar to mine. He plays almost twice as many hands. For him rb/bonus may gather much faster (depending on ths site) but we are both playing legit profitable styles.

Actually now i have said it sounds like a really good idea i might actually do it.
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Posted by: Bullajami at November 5, 2007, 4:17 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
Your data is not likely to be very much better than the Bonus Grid here at BW. How many times have the various iPoker rooms changed their bonus terms in the past 18 months? Each time they do the bonus chasers react accordingly (flooding or fleeing the site) and the data is impacted.

I'd love a perfect system for bonus and rakeback evaluations, but I don't think its realistic. Good Luck though!
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Posted by: daraider at November 5, 2007, 3:45 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
nugget wrote: Pinos wrote: I believe it is a breach of T&C of some poker rooms


believe

I didnt read anything about that in terms and conditions of rooms. But i didnt read everyone.

If the project is a breach of the terms and conditons of the rooms, the whole bonuswhoring sites with their explanations, where you can find lots of tips and tricks to clear the boni, have to be closed.

Read stars. It is definitly a breach of their terms to share a database.
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Posted by: wako at November 5, 2007, 3:21 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
GoldBoar is right plus
I think this is an old idea. A couple years ago I think there was a site selling PT DB's. A search here or 2+2 would confirm. Letting BW maintain a bonus grid as they do will probable satisfy most. Most players (like me)are reluctant to share thier stats but gl.
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Posted by: GoldBoar at November 5, 2007, 2:10 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
The problem with sharing databases is that, even if you only publish the rake or hourly rate info, you as the collectors have all this player-identified data. That is what is against the T&Cs.
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Posted by: nugget at November 5, 2007, 1:23 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
Pinos wrote: I believe it is a breach of T&C of some poker rooms


believe

I didnt read anything about that in terms and conditions of rooms. But i didnt read everyone.

If the project is a breach of the terms and conditons of the rooms, the whole bonuswhoring sites with their explanations, where you can find lots of tips and tricks to clear the boni, have to be closed.
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Posted by: Pinos at November 5, 2007, 1:04 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
I believe it is a breach of T&C of some poker rooms
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Posted by: nugget at November 5, 2007, 12:57 pm
Topic: Databases PROJECT! Forum: Bonus Whores
Me and some friends are currently working on a Database Project.
We had already collect some Databases, but we still need a lot more.
[Pokertracker Databases]

What is it good for?
We want to create a new list, where you can see, on which rooms you get thebest bonus and rakeback on the different limits.

We will make the Project public as soon as possible and it will be free for everyone!

It is up to you. Please help for a new and better bonuswhoring!


We are searching for:
Long und Shorthanded!
0.25/0.5$ FL - FL 2/4 $ & NL 10 - NL 100.

Partygaming, Microgaming, Pokerstars, OnGame, B2B, Ipoker, Crypto!

Thank you.

If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact me.
[ Please upload the database(s) on rapidshare or any other filehoster and write down the link here. (PM is also possible)

(Sry 4 my sick english)
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