| Posted by: juiceeQ at October 14, 2007, 1:00 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Gentlemen, let's keep things civil. We can disagree without this turning into a flame war.
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| Posted by: Dorkus Malorkus at October 14, 2007, 12:58 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
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Stage #788640363: Holdem Normal $30/$60 - 2007-10-13 04:52:48 (ET)
Table: DALLAS ST (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - THEOMAHAMAN ($907 in chips)
Seat 5 - THEMADRUSIAN ($1848 in chips)
Seat 6 - MONTYDEW ($600 in chips)
Seat 1 - FUSIONDREAMS ($395 in chips)
Seat 3 - HASMIKZ111 ($288.76 in chips)
THEMADRUSIAN - Posts small blind $15
MONTYDEW - Posts big blind $30
FUSIONDREAMS - sitout (wait for BB)
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to MONTYDEW [Js Ah]
HASMIKZ111 - Folds
THEOMAHAMAN - Raises $60 to $60
THEMADRUSIAN - Raises $75 to $90
MONTYDEW - Raises $90 to $120
THEOMAHAMAN - Calls $60
THEMADRUSIAN - Calls $30
*** FLOP *** [8h Ks Jc]
THEMADRUSIAN - Checks
MONTYDEW - Bets $30
THEOMAHAMAN - Raises $60 to $60
THEMADRUSIAN - Raises $90 to $90
MONTYDEW - Calls $60
THEOMAHAMAN - Raises $60 to $120
THEMADRUSIAN - Calls $30
MONTYDEW - Calls $30
*** TURN *** [8h Ks Jc] 5♠ | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: slowpoke at October 13, 2007, 11:13 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Well I've hit 3 royal flushes on ideo pokers within 2 hours...on the same machine....think I cheated?
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| Posted by: DJJBrew at October 13, 2007, 7:07 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
We all hope for that one wave that dominates and rips down pots, but it looks like you were the ictim of a tital wave. If he was cheating he'd be all in every pot with no worrys. If you were in a live game i'd ask to switch decks but your screwed online, it's like playing online roulette and black comes up 30 times in a row but you keep playing red.
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| Posted by: royalburrito24 at October 13, 2007, 6:58 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
well said. even though i only read half of it.
well said.
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| Posted by: HartAttack3 at October 13, 2007, 6:51 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by DaFrench1
I'm looking forward to reading your post when you've also lost all your money on a blatantly rigged site. Save your lame sarcasm. If I could cheat on a poker site, would I? Of course. If I was setting up and running a poker site would I enable myself a way of pulling out some quick easy money for when I needed it? Sure bloody. Its actually you who is an idiot for thinking that the world is all roses and no-one ever does anything wrong because they are worried about protecting their reputation or whatever. Get real.
Ok all I have to say is, the OP said it was rigged then posted a hand where he had aj os and called down with SECOND pair and was amazed he lost? Enough said.
Now on to you, when you lose with aa to kk its rigged right? Cant possibly be the fact that a 20% hit actually hit? Also, if you were setting up and running a poker site and decided to "rig" it then your just another kid spewing crap to make himself feel ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: vanquish at October 13, 2007, 6:14 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by DaFrench1
I'm looking forward to reading your post when you've also lost all your money on a blatantly rigged site. Save your lame sarcasm. If I could cheat on a poker site, would I? Of course.
Blatantly. It's practically impossible to argue against someone who clearly doesn't understand the idea of ariance and probability in poker, but I'm going to try anyway. Any player can have a good run in such a small sample size. I myself have had days where I've ran a godly 30 PTBBs/100 in a higher stakes limit poker game (lasted about 3 days) than my BR could then permit. I guess I must have cheated too, right?
Quote: Originally Posted by DaFrench1
If I was setting up and running a poker site would I enable myself a way of pulling out some quick easy money for when I needed it? Sure bloody.
Yeah, I mean obviously the millions upon millions in rake you'd be earning would not be enough for you, you'd have to rig 30/60 limit ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: adamcharlie at October 13, 2007, 6:07 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I dont play at that limit online but I have seen so wierd streaks that people go on. I like to hope its just luck on there part but I do wonder if there is cheating going on. I have seen software adds saying you can see everyones cards mabye thats what this guy was using not sure if it is even posible. I think with all the computer hackers in the world somone would be taking advantage of all the people playing poker online.
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| Posted by: DaFrench1 at October 13, 2007, 5:53 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by HartAttack3
your right, what could we possibly be thinking. The poker site wants him to win all the money so when it gets withdrawn they only need to pay him. They just dont like you or anyone else there, you better get on their good side fast so they can make you a winner!
I'm looking forward to reading your post when you've also lost all your money on a blatantly rigged site. Save your lame sarcasm. If I could cheat on a poker site, would I? Of course. If I was setting up and running a poker site would I enable myself a way of pulling out some quick easy money for when I needed it? Sure bloody. Its actually you who is an idiot for thinking that the world is all roses and no-one ever does anything wrong because they are worried about protecting their reputation or whatever. Get real.
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| Posted by: HartAttack3 at October 13, 2007, 1:12 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
your right, what could we possibly be thinking. The poker site wants him to win all the money so when it gets withdrawn they only need to pay him. They just dont like you or anyone else there, you better get on their good side fast so they can make you a winner!
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| Posted by: trbsht at October 13, 2007, 11:36 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Stage #788640363: Holdem Normal $30/$60 - 2007-10-13 04:52:48 (ET)
Table: DALLAS ST (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - THEOMAHAMAN ($907 in chips)
Seat 5 - THEMADRUSIAN ($1848 in chips)
Seat 6 - MONTYDEW ($600 in chips)
Seat 1 - FUSIONDREAMS ($395 in chips)
Seat 3 - HASMIKZ111 ($288.76 in chips)
THEMADRUSIAN - Posts small blind $15
MONTYDEW - Posts big blind $30
FUSIONDREAMS - sitout (wait for BB)
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to MONTYDEW [Js Ah]
HASMIKZ111 - Folds
THEOMAHAMAN - Raises $60 to $60
THEMADRUSIAN - Raises $75 to $90
MONTYDEW - Raises $90 to $120
THEOMAHAMAN - Calls $60
THEMADRUSIAN - Calls $30
*** FLOP *** [8h Ks Jc]
THEMADRUSIAN - Checks
MONTYDEW - Bets $30
THEOMAHAMAN - Raises $60 to $60
THEMADRUSIAN - Raises $90 to $90
MONTYDEW - Calls $60
THEOMAHAMAN - Raises $60 to $120
THEMADRUSIAN - Calls $30
MONTYDEW - Calls $30
*** TURN *** [8h Ks Jc] 5♠
THEMADRUSIAN - Bets ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: trbsht at October 13, 2007, 11:34 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Totally understandable. I'm having a tough time sleeping cause the more I think about how everything happened the more I know it was a fixed game and I mean Know without a doubt. So I'm done with Absolutepoker.
Card cheating was a big thing in the old days with slight of hand just imagine the sick things you can pull off with software.
They could egg a guy on with a super flop only to be ravaged by the river.
Like my straight draw hit on turn only to be busted by quads on river.
Or the hand before some poor sap top 2 pair, full house on river, beaten by better full boat on river 3 hands before the quad hand, ect..... ect....
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| Posted by: quads at October 13, 2007, 10:57 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
This was your 5th post. Got to be honest with ya. I'm not gonna download your file onto my computer. You could just be a rookie with money to blow. But I'm not taking any chances. Especially considering this involves Absolute.
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| Posted by: trbsht at October 13, 2007, 9:44 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Read them and choose what to believe. To me something just doesn't seem right he busted everyone at the table.
HOT STREAKS OR COLD STREAKS, This just doesn't happen or maybe it does regularly online but live play no, no, no, If so God is sitting in that mans lap.
I lost 800$ to him, I'm not sore I'm just amazed thats all. I've spent time playing poker and have seen beats but beat upon beat upon beat. Was worth 800$ just to experience something so celestial.
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| Posted by: royalburrito24 at October 13, 2007, 9:35 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
you are card dead....and maybe your card deadness might be over exaggerating this guys win streak...
then again, i was not there, so i would not know.
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| Posted by: trbsht at October 13, 2007, 9:11 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I was playing at absolute and I gather that there could possibly be cheating going on cause I never saw a guy get trips, quads, and full houses in less then 20 hands until now and won every hand he was in except for 1.
Quad sixes, trip kings, trip jacks, trip sixes, full house, and top two pair practically every hand and this is no joke. It was in a 30/60 limit game.
This guy was called the madrussian maybe you know him and he's good but to someone like me who saw him catch every single card in the deck when he needed it something seems fixed. Can anyone ever relate this kind of action during live play. I've never seen that many great hands dealt to one player in 10 minutes. I would think that the odds say it really isn't possible.
It would be like winning the powerball.
p.s. maybe I'm card dead but I have not flopped trips at absolute for over 100 pocket pairs.
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| Posted by: FlopIt2Me at June 17, 2006, 7:10 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I know a lot of people chat online. they do it over the phone and by IM. They even have programs that can read your hole cards. So, yes, people do cheat online. Would I do it? Hard to say, but I don't think so. 1- because I pride myself on learning more aspects of the game every day. I take too much pride in the competition of it. It would be tempting though cause there would be much profit. But also, think about the jail time. Not nice. I'm not gonna be Big bubba's bitch.
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| Posted by: JJPHENOM at June 16, 2006, 6:32 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I think cheating is what you make it, i do not cheat but at big live games when me and my friends are playing against kids that i do not trust we will play in a such a way that one of us wins and we split the money or make a deal, I just think, there is a way to cheat at everything it just is against most people morals but when your getting cheated sometimes you have to bend the rules a little.
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| Posted by: pokrjoker at June 16, 2006, 5:52 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
well i dont know if there is a way to cheat or not.....it seems that there has to be a way somewhere.....but i do have a question for a pro i recently watched a ideo of.....its an online pro with his own tutoring website....in the ideo it was a $10 sng at party poker....about 10 hands into the ideo....i noticed i could see the cards of other players before the flop...then he makes a couple of clicks and says "its better when you cant see the cards"...so im not sure if its possible or if this was just a program that allowed to see the cards after the game was over and it was recorded....if i ever get to the bottom of it ill leet you know what i find out
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| Posted by: Mellowman307 at June 16, 2006, 5:44 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
There are online cheaters, look at JJProdigy, playing 2 accounts and winning a $100000 tourney.
I have seen 1 person playing 2 hands in an Absolute tourney and I know Absolute is aware that this guy has multiple accounts.
Yet they don't seem to do anything about it.
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| Posted by: Coryan at June 14, 2006, 8:25 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by juiceeQ
As for Coryan's question regarding cheating to "get even"--that would mean nothing. It would be far more satisfying to beat them on my own merits and then rub it in afterwards.
Now this is REAL REVENGE...and the sweetest kind!
Quote: Originally Posted by jmj69
Nope I cant see the pleasure of winning by cheating!! There for I wouldnt do it either. I have sat at several tables with people from Romania they seem to like to tell each other what they have at the tables SO--- I did look every card , numbers and a few sayings up so I knew what they were saying-yep well you can guess the rest LOL ( and no I didnt tell them I knew what they were saying ) So the question is ---maybe I was cheating by knowing what they were telling each other!!! you tell me!
ROFL. I guess this is a form of cheating because you have an advantage, not only against the cheaters, but against other players at the table. However, a par... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: beanaddict at June 14, 2006, 7:11 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
There is always karma. Usually everyone gets what they deserve!
Need watch the movie "Rounders" they get the crap beaten out of them.
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| Posted by: powtail at June 14, 2006, 5:46 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wsorbust
I actually saw 2 people from the same location with similar names on Prima sitting next to each other, with the same buy-in amount, sitting out until another person came to the table ....They both played like they were the same person... I contacted the live help and they told me they basically didn't care...
they were getting their rake anyways.
bastards!
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| Posted by: wsorbust at June 14, 2006, 5:36 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I actually saw 2 people from the same location with similar names on Prima sitting next to each other, with the same buy-in amount, sitting out until another person came to the table ....They both played like they were the same person... I contacted the live help and they told me they basically didn't care...
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| Posted by: starfall at June 14, 2006, 5:12 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Some of the poker books have indicated that most people that try to cheat do worse than decent poker players.
Collusion is the most common form of cheating online, and none of us would know that 2 of their opponents happen to know each other and are chatting on something like MSN. However, certain plays can then become suspicous, and it's the reason why there is software that will flag your account if you are regularly at the same table as another player, so that they can investigate whether there are any signs of collusion (e.g. folding when the colluding 'opponent' had a monster, or helping cap the betting with a weak hand). A less easy tactic to stamp down on is soft-playing - simply not crippling a friend who you're playing against, so that they have a better chance of doing well in the tournament.
In reality, while the folding to a better opponents hand saves a bet, it's a bet that would go to your friend, and it reduces pot odds and may encourage others to fold as well, costing your frie... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: jmj69 at June 14, 2006, 4:57 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Nope I cant see the pleasure of winning by cheating!! There for I wouldnt do it either. I have sat at several tables with people from Romania they seem to like to tell each other what they have at the tables SO--- I did look every card , numbers and a few sayings up so I knew what they were saying-yep well you can guess the rest LOL ( and no I didnt tell them I knew what they were saying ) So the question is ---maybe I was cheating by knowing what they were telling each other!!! you tell me!
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| Posted by: juiceeQ at June 14, 2006, 4:49 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
Nope. My integrity means too much to me. Also, I love the sense of accomplishment too much. To win by cheating would mean nothing. Money or not.
Besides, look at what happened to JJProdigy & ZeeJustin. They're the "Bonds & Palmeiro" of online poker right now. No thanks. Not me.
I'm am completely with MrSticker on this one. In my opinion, a cheat is no better than a theif. I would not be able to sleep at night knowing I deliberately cheated someone.
As for Coryan's question regarding cheating to "get even"--that would mean nothing. It would be far more satisfying to beat them on my own merits and then rub it in afterwards.
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| Posted by: MrSticker at June 14, 2006, 4:42 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Coryan
So, MrSticker, would you ever consider cheating? What if it was a game where you felt the players had cheated you before? Would you cheat to "get even"?
Nope. My integrity means too much to me. Also, I love the sense of accomplishment too much. To win by cheating would mean nothing. Money or not.
Besides, look at what happened to JJProdigy & ZeeJustin. They're the "Bonds & Palmeiro" of online poker right now. No thanks. Not me.
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| Posted by: tranqxility at June 14, 2006, 4:06 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
If it was for big money, I'd definitely think about it. It would just be too tempting, I think. It wouldn't take long for me to start feeling really bad about it, though, if I did start cheating, and then I'd stop cheating altogether.
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| Posted by: Coryan at June 14, 2006, 3:57 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
I'll betcha this non-poker player is doing research for a project, college, governmental, or otherwise. Why else would someone ask such a stupid question out in the open? These thread titles have the possibility of showing up on the user-specified "My Yahoo" RSS feeds. Dumb move. I ote for deletion.
Granted, this is not the best choice for an initial post. But the question is still of interest.
I say take the question at face alue (as T1riel did) and ask yourself if you would ever cheat? Personally, I don't think I would for a couple reasons: 1) In a cash game I would have a tremendous fear of getting caught (yeah, I don't bluff much either), and 2) in a play money game I would find no fun in winning through cheating.
So, personally, I would love to make the money (cheating or not), but I am way to scared to cheat.
So, MrSticker, would you ever consider cheating? What if it was a game where you felt the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: MrSticker at June 14, 2006, 3:41 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I'll betcha this non-poker player is doing research for a project, college, governmental, or otherwise. Why else would someone ask such a stupid question out in the open? These thread titles have the possibility of showing up on the user-specified "My Yahoo" RSS feeds. Dumb move. I ote for deletion.
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| Posted by: Coryan at June 14, 2006, 3:40 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by F Paulsson
If I found a way to cheat undetected at a site, I'd immediately cash out all my money and go elsewhere. If I can do it, others can do it. If others can do it, they're doing it to me. If they're doing it to me, I'm in trouble.
Hmmm....good point!
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| Posted by: F Paulsson at June 14, 2006, 3:35 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I guess I never answered the question, so here goes:
If I found a way to cheat undetected at a site, I'd immediately cash out all my money and go elsewhere. If I can do it, others can do it. If others can do it, they're doing it to me. If they're doing it to me, I'm in trouble.
No, I wouldn't cheat at online poker, because I wouldn't stay at a site where it's possible long enough for me to use the knowledge.
Honest enough for ya?
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| Posted by: Cardsharp at June 14, 2006, 1:56 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Look at that, someone actualy gave an honest answer!
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| Posted by: t1riel at June 14, 2006, 1:24 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
I see players cheat in a Headsup freeroll by players telling each other what hands they have in the chatbox until they make it to the last table. You could report them but by the time the site's staff responds, the freeroll is over.
Would I cheat? I hate to say it but if it was a lot of money involved and I wouldn't get caught, I would consider it.
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| Posted by: F Paulsson at June 14, 2006, 1:23 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by shortstacked
what a joke of a first post
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and ohh welcome to the forums, great first impression
A bit harsh, isn't it? He didn't say "let's all cheat!" or "I would!"
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| Posted by: Cardsharp at June 14, 2006, 1:00 pm | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Lol me and a friend were cheating on pokerstarts play money once, just for kicks. I wouldn't do it in a real money game though.
I did catch a guy cheating in a live game the other day. Real amature stuff. Peaking at the bottom card, looking at peoples cards as he dealt. It was a sad display. It was only me my brother and my "friend" left in the game so I did a little "advantaged playing" of my own and me and my brother split the money. Two wrongs do make a right!
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| Posted by: shortstacked at June 14, 2006, 6:51 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
i'd love to cheat and most of all get cought and have all my funds taken and my name scared on every poker site in the world as well as the forums hmmmmm sounds like a plan to me!!!!!!
what a joke of a first post
I could never do it, I love playing poker I love the money I make, some days alot and some days not so much , I make an honset living doing what i love and thats playing poker
now as for the 2nd part I do feel that some people cheat or have something that helps them but cant know for sure
and ohh welcome to the forums, great first impression
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| Posted by: JAMILE1 at June 14, 2006, 5:45 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
Interesting first post! and I probably can speak for most of the old timers here and NO we don't cheat and wouldn't encourage anyone to either. My question to you is would you cheat if you could? though a couple of us played the other day and just because we was talking in room they all lefted the table LMAO, but to answer your question no we don't cheat, and I'm sure some people do though but you won't find any here.
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| Posted by: sfrank870@yahoo.com at June 14, 2006, 4:20 am | | Topic: Cheating Forum: Card Chat |
If you could cheat at poker online would you?
Do you think people Cheat online?
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