| Posted by: wreckoning at May 15, 2007, 10:07 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Hey alien did you see that Dan Harrington is making a series on no-limit cash games?! Volumes 1 & 2 are coming out Dec 2007. I'm so excited!
Also I ordered (for now) One of a Kind, NL Theory and Practice by Sklansky, Moneymaker, In the Money by Esfandiari, Annie Duke, Telling Lies and Getting Paid. I realized I already own Little Blue Book heh. Thanks for the recommendations.
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| Posted by: Devilpoker78 at May 5, 2007, 4:43 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Wowow all in genius, thats a really HUGE collection compared to my pitiful one. I havent really started reading poker books in earnest but I plan to start soon and Im sure itll improve my play further. Anyway how are you doing on the tables? GL with it, hope to catch you around in FT soon.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at May 5, 2007, 4:33 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wreckoning
I'm awful online. I play mostly at casinos, do okay there but you get me online and everyone is so much tighter and aggressive it seems. Some more practice I guess. Funny thing is that at the casino I'm always happy to see an Internet player show up. They get ripped apart by all the players more accustomed to live games.
Ok I will get the Sklansky NL book. I will check out Weighing the Odds and get the Esfandiari book too- I was looking for an excuse to get that chip tricks dvd haha! Positively Fifth Street sounds funny, haven't heard of that one.
What do you think of Malmuth's Poker Essays books? Is there any particular one I should get or would they be overlapping my other Malmuth/Sklansky stuff?
All three poker essay books are excellent. As usual with Sklansky and Malmuth (S&M!) they are geared toward LIMIT poker in their specific examples; but the concepts and theory are still alid, and the essays get you thinking... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bw07507 at May 5, 2007, 1:04 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Wow, that is quite a collection of books. I have still not read any poker books even though I have been meaning to do so for quite some time now. Mostly I cant decide which one to get because I play all types of holdem. I used to play almost all SnG tournaments, but lately I jump all over the place. Somedays I play SnGs, other times I will play all cash or even MTTs here and there. I have been winning quite a bit lately, no matter what I am playing. Any suggestions as to a book that kind of covers everything, cash, sng, and mtt and is focused on online play??
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| Posted by: wreckoning at May 4, 2007, 10:52 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
I'm awful online. I play mostly at casinos, do okay there but you get me online and everyone is so much tighter and aggressive it seems. Some more practice I guess. Funny thing is that at the casino I'm always happy to see an Internet player show up. They get ripped apart by all the players more accustomed to live games.
Ok I will get the Sklansky NL book. I will check out Weighing the Odds and get the Esfandiari book too- I was looking for an excuse to get that chip tricks dvd haha! Positively Fifth Street sounds funny, haven't heard of that one.
What do you think of Malmuth's Poker Essays books? Is there any particular one I should get or would they be overlapping my other Malmuth/Sklansky stuff?
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| Posted by: aliengenius at May 4, 2007, 4:40 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by wreckoning
Hey alien, I am looking to pick up a few more books, could you recommend some to me since you've probably read more poker books than anyone on this forum lol?
This is what I currently have-
Theory of Poker - Sklansky
Hold'em for Advanced Players - Sklansky & Malmouth
Real Poker II: The Play of Hands - Roy Cooke
Little Green Book - Phil Gordon
Mike Caro's book of Tells
Super/System 2 - Brunson
Harrington on Hold'em 2
Harrington on Hold'em 3
Ace on the River by Barry Greenstein
Killer Poker No Limit - John Varhaus
Killer Poker - John Varhaus
Ken Warren Teaches Texas Hold’em
I'd like a few more books: one or two focusing on no-limit cash games, but nothing fluffy or basic that is going to overlap what I already have. I enjoyed Hold'em for Advanced Players but unfortunately a lot of it is ery specific to limit games which I don't play often. I really enjoy the play-of-hands stuf... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Schatzdog at May 4, 2007, 3:05 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Where is NL Theory and Practice by Sklansky/Melmuth?
Also, The Professor, The Banker and The Suicide King is an interesting read. Not going to teach you anything about how to play but a nice insight into how gamblers live and think.
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| Posted by: wreckoning at May 4, 2007, 12:31 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Hey alien, I am looking to pick up a few more books, could you recommend some to me since you've probably read more poker books than anyone on this forum lol?
This is what I currently have-
Theory of Poker - Sklansky
Hold'em for Advanced Players - Sklansky & Malmouth
Real Poker II: The Play of Hands - Roy Cooke
Little Green Book - Phil Gordon
Mike Caro's book of Tells
Super/System 2 - Brunson
Harrington on Hold'em 2
Harrington on Hold'em 3
Ace on the River by Barry Greenstein
Killer Poker No Limit - John Varhaus
Killer Poker - John Varhaus
Ken Warren Teaches Texas Hold’em
I'd like a few more books: one or two focusing on no-limit cash games, but nothing fluffy or basic that is going to overlap what I already have. I enjoyed Hold'em for Advanced Players but unfortunately a lot of it is ery specific to limit games which I don't play often. I really enjoy the play-of-hands stuff like in Roy Cooke's book and in Little Green Book and... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: robwhufc at April 26, 2007, 3:48 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Bombjack
Nice collection allingenius!
My comparatively anaemic library pictured below.
I'd rather have your collection and $3,000 in cash to be honest!
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| Posted by: Bombjack at April 26, 2007, 1:33 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Nice collection allingenius!
My comparatively anaemic library pictured below. A few extras back at my parents' house, "7 Card Stud" by Roy West, "The Biggest Game in Town" by Al Alvarez, "Online Poker" by Doyle Brunson (which is actually one long tedious advert for his site, was given it).
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| Posted by: aliengenius at April 25, 2007, 12:17 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by BabyShoes
That bottom line is the clincher, ain't it?!
Thanks for the reply. I'm actually swamped by Sklansky and Super System was only marginally easier to digest, so I figure my library is well in advance of my ability to understand the concepts.
I would like to get the ones you recomended to me, but the last six books, whilst ordered from Amazon, came from four different suppliers and cost me a ton! Could you suggest an online source?
Conjelco is a good source.
And you should be able to order Hilger's books right from his site.
Not sure if Barnes and Noble is an option for you?
If you google poker books I'm sure you will find a lot of sites like this, maybe one of those would work for you.
Quote: Originally Posted by dakota-xx
Nice collection - you have read all of them already?
Not all of them, no (see op).
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| Posted by: BabyShoes at April 25, 2007, 8:41 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by aliengenius
It's always tough to recommend books generally without a bit of background info on the individual. Your current library is ery good, and defiantly on the more advanced side.
How did you find these books with regard to your current experience/skill level? Also, what area of poker are you currently focusing on, limit cash games, NL tournaments? It also depends on what you want from your book-- more Sklansky theory, or a bit of entertainment?
Assuming that you were comfortable with what you have you can always go with a good odds book like Matt Higer's "Texas Hold'em Odds and Probabilities".
Also, some books that might be considered a bit on the "basic" side are nice to have for somewhat easier reading, and to tough base with concepts that you know but are good to have a refresher in. Phil Gordon's "Little" series comes to mind. You can read these a break from the "study" you really ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: stevareno9 at April 25, 2007, 4:13 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Ok you got some knowledge for sure how about screen shots of all the cash in your accounts it must be 10s of thousands.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at April 25, 2007, 2:38 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by skoldpadda
Didn't see this one... you have so many maybe I missed it:
Positively Fifth Street by Jim McManus -- a must read documentobiography (yeah I made that up)
Wait, add that to my "lent to someone and now no longer have" list... [guess that puts it right about at 3k spent on poker books]
I agree, excellent read!
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| Posted by: skoldpadda at April 24, 2007, 11:01 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Didn't see this one... you have so many maybe I missed it:
Positively Fifth Street by Jim McManus -- a must read documentobiography (yeah I made that up)
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| Posted by: NineLions at April 24, 2007, 9:03 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by aliengenius
Not surprised you have an extensive library as well....
Greenstein's book is beautiful, lots of pictures (but they are unlabeled, so you don't always know who you are looking at), ery well constructed physically (glossy think pages).
The content is interesting, sometimes a bit odd/weird. He does touch on some topics that no one else really addresses (Chapter 16: "Poker and your Sexuality", I kid you not). I recommend it because I recommend almost all poker books, and I think you will want to have it in your collection.
Let us know what you think after you get it!
Yeah, it's really nice as a coffee table book.
It's one of those ones that I'm glad I read, but at the same time I'm glad it was a library book as it doesn't have the same re-reading/reference kind of quality that ones like Phil Gordon or Harrington's books have. It does, as you say, have some different thoughts than some of the mor... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: pokernut at April 24, 2007, 6:37 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Wow, that's all I can say is, Wow. Well that, and that I am extremely jealous of your library.
Mine concists of:
Harrington on Hold Em I, II, and III
Poker Odds and Probabilities
The Theory of Poker
Online Ace
Super System I and II
I just started about 6 or 8 months ago putting my collection together. I just got Poker Odds and Probabilities so I haven't read that yet, and I'm in the midst of reading The Theory of Poker now.
Oh.........and let's not forget the subscription to Bluff Magazine that I bought (along with other things) with my party points when party poker shut us Americans out. I guess i'll probably need to renew that soon.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at April 24, 2007, 6:17 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitram_80
I am glad you have a stacked library but is that many poker books really necessary? I have about 5 good quality books and I think I learned as much as I can about poker . I may get a few more but I can't see why anyone who need more then 10 books . The rest you have to learn by playing the game and experience as well as improving your reading abilities.
No, it's not "necessary" per se. Did I really need to read Annie Duke or Chris Moneymaker's biography, of course not. Do Gordon's and Wenzel's books cover much of the same ground and topics, sure.
Did reading any of these books hurt my game? No.* Did I learn something, or review something from/in each of them? Yes.
I guess your real question/comment is "Was it worth the investment?" ($2965 total cover prices, for those interested).
Certainly some books are more "bang for the buck": I can say that for $19.95 "Poker Tournament Ti... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Nitram_80 at April 24, 2007, 4:58 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
I am glad you have a stacked library but is that many poker books really necessary? I have about 5 good quality books and I think I learned as much as I can about poker . I may get a few more but I can't see why anyone who need more then 10 books . The rest you have to learn by playing the game and experience as well as improving your reading abilities.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at April 24, 2007, 4:32 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by F Paulsson
I just ordered ("just" as in five minutes ago) ordered Stoxtrader's new limit book ("Winning in Tough Hold 'em Games"), so I'm one up on you there. I'm probably 50 down on you in the rest of your list though.
Did you read Greenstein's book? I've heard good things about it and that will probably be my next poker related buy.
Not surprised you have an extensive library as well....
Greenstein's book is beautiful, lots of pictures (but they are unlabeled, so you don't always know who you are looking at), ery well constructed physically (glossy think pages).
The content is interesting, sometimes a bit odd/weird. He does touch on some topics that no one else really addresses (Chapter 16: "Poker and your Sexuality", I kid you not). I recommend it because I recommend almost all poker books, and I think you will want to have it in your collection.
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| Posted by: dj11 at April 24, 2007, 2:31 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
WHen I started here, I read all the articles, SS & SS2 and a few others, read the HH's and comments, and occasionally still win something. But in general I have not advanced as far as I want. My Br is ery close to becoming
"Gone With the Wind"
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| Posted by: edge-t at April 24, 2007, 1:50 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
I love reading books, but most of them are not poker related stuff. Poker related, I've only read Harrington's series, Matt Hilger's ITH, Super System 1. My God, you can build a decent bankroll with the money you spent on those books. Still, I think it's a show of your dedication.
I think I've seen your handle on FT recently, on the $10 PL tables. Anyway, my handle's donnylucky on FT. Holler if you see me.
Still trying to amass a library of essential poker books.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at April 24, 2007, 12:54 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by t1riel
Wow! How long did it take you to buld that poker library?
I would say about four years all total, but certainly not linearly-- most of it over the past two, as I became more serious about the game.
Quote: Originally Posted by BabyShoes
That's a great library - as you know! - but would you be able to recommend, say, the top 10?
I'm in South Africa, and with the cost of shipping would rather have 10 great books than take a chance on 20 with no guidance.
I have Sklansky on Poker
Super System
Caro's Tells
Harrington's first book (name escapes me)...
It's always tough to recommend books generally without a bit of background info on the individual. Your current library is ery good, and defiantly on the more advanced side.
How did you find these books with regard to your current experience/skill level? Also, what area of poker are you currently focusing on, limit cash games,... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: F Paulsson at April 24, 2007, 12:44 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
I just ordered ("just" as in five minutes ago) ordered Stoxtrader's new limit book ("Winning in Tough Hold 'em Games"), so I'm one up on you there. I'm probably 50 down on you in the rest of your list though.
Did you read Greenstein's book? I've heard good things about it and that will probably be my next poker related buy.
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| Posted by: BabyShoes at April 24, 2007, 12:27 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
That's a great library - as you know! - but would you be able to recommend, say, the top 10?
I'm in South Africa, and with the cost of shipping would rather have 10 great books than take a chance on 20 with no guidance.
I have Sklansky on Poker
Super System
Caro's Tells
Harrington's first book (name escapes me)...
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| Posted by: TexasHoney at April 24, 2007, 5:27 am | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Well i have read well over 3000 books, but they were not about poker. Science, History, and Romance novels, One of my hobbies is reading, it is great for the mind. And i agree with AG, never sell.
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| Posted by: MrSticker at April 23, 2007, 11:56 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Holy Jeezus, AG! That's a lot of books. You could seriously suppliment your bankroll if you sold half of them.
This gives me an excuse to post this pic of my bookshelf I took a few weeks ago. I was proud of it until I read what AG has. Now I feel like a hobbyist. I've only read half of my poker books and only a couple of the non-poker others. The only book missing from the pic is "Theory of Poker", which I am 10 pages from finishing:
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| Posted by: aliengenius at April 23, 2007, 9:31 pm | | Topic: My Poker Library Forum: Card Chat |
Obviously there will be some overlap in these categories; you might consider a lot of the books in Courses/Guides and/or General Reference as beginner books (and ice ersa ); you might consider Cat Hulbert’s book for women as a specialty book (or a beginner book); a bunch of the beginners books are limit poker only, etc.
Some of these are brand new and I have not had a chance to read (the Chen and the Varrone book), or have not studied because of a different focus right now (most of the limit books), some I read a long long time ago (lots of the course/guides and beginners books).
I think most of the books in Math/Theory are almost essential to any good library, or would at least be useful in the advancement of your understanding of the game.
General Reference
The Art of Texas Hold’em by Ernest and Selinker
Stepping Up by Randy Burgess
12 Days to Hold’em Success by Mike Caro
Internet Poker by Krieger and Watterson
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