| Posted by: Emperor IX at December 2, 2007, 11:52 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by OzExorcist
It does have some benefits for players - more hands per hour, and lower tournament entry fees. In our local, they're also using them to provide games like Omaha, which they often wouldn't bother with otherwise, and also use them to provide games lower than $1/$2, which is where the traditional live tables start.
Like I said, I don't like them personally, but there are benefits for those who do.
I'll admit that that is pretty intriguing (the micro limits part), but unless my friends are heading to Soaring Eagle and I'm broke, I doubt I'll bever use it. I'm just not excited about reading the eventual threads about how these tables are rigged
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| Posted by: OzExorcist at December 2, 2007, 11:42 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Emperor IX
Yeah, with more discussions of rigged tables. It's completely pointless. The only person this benefits is the casino, because they don't have to buy decks or pay dealers, and personally I don't care about the casino. They make enough money as it is.
It does have some benefits for players - more hands per hour, and lower tournament entry fees. In our local, they're also using them to provide games like Omaha, which they often wouldn't bother with otherwise, and also use them to provide games lower than $1/$2, which is where the traditional live tables start.
Like I said, I don't like them personally, but there are benefits for those who do.
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| Posted by: Emperor IX at December 2, 2007, 11:30 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by OzExorcist
Because it's not online poker - it's live poker, just with the bits that slow the game up removed.
Personally, I enjoy the bits that slow the game up so it doesn't really appeal to me, but I can see why it might to others.
Yeah, with more discussions of rigged tables. It's completely pointless. The only person this benefits is the casino, because they don't have to buy decks or pay dealers, and personally I don't care about the casino. They make enough money as it is.
If you don't have real cards with real chips and a real dealer, it's not real live poker. It's honestly just stupid. If you want to remove the slow parts then play online.
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| Posted by: OzExorcist at December 2, 2007, 11:21 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Wonka22
why would ANYONE go to a casino to play "online" poker?
Because it's not online poker - it's live poker, just with the bits that slow the game up removed.
Personally, I enjoy the bits that slow the game up so it doesn't really appeal to me, but I can see why it might to others.
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| Posted by: Wonka22 at December 2, 2007, 9:56 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
Originally Posted by nobleadman
I have lost $$ because the sites are happy to take money off my card but they wont pay out!!
Quote: This is also crap. All the major US sites are capable of providing withdrawals.
First of all, I dont appreciate being called a liar AlienGenius. I won money on a poker site (which will remain nameless) , cashed out and never saw my money! I will allow that the $$ may have gotten lost, but either way I won and should have got my money! Electronic poker tables allow me to cash-in and out without problems!
There is a regulation in place prohibiting Internet gambling. Why else would states like Nevada be trying to fight the legislation? If you found a loophole then I applaud you.
As for the electronic tables themselves, I challenge anyone who has actually tried them to post a reply. I am able to play many more hands and I get lots of interaction. The tables I played were buzzing an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: OzExorcist at December 2, 2007, 9:40 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
He assured me that they need to pass the same strict certification as other machines. Does that mean the odds are not stacked in favour of the casinos?
That's the beauty of poker - there's no need for the house to stack the game in its favour, because they win every hand ia rake.
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| Posted by: nobleadman at November 30, 2007, 2:59 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Since I was already skeptical about online poker, I asked a floor manager at the casino about the new electronic poker tables. He assured me that they need to pass the same strict certification as other machines. Does that mean the odds are not stacked in favour of the casinos?
As for experiencing the feel of real cards and chips, remember that people thought chatting on a computer would not catch on since people would miss the face to face. Look how chat room, blogs and bulleting boards have grown. I suspect the same thing will happen with the poker tables.
Some people mentioned pokerpro but the machine I played on was called pokermate. From what I saw online, both machines appear similar.
Can anyone who has tried both tell me how they compare?
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| Posted by: jaymfc at November 30, 2007, 3:18 am | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
the electronic tables are like dak said way better then nothing , no casinos in my state but the horse track has electronic machines , slot machines that pay tickets that you can cash for the money , recently added blackjack machines and I'm hoping for some hold em machines soon. I think it will be different than online because of fake casino feel , just being out with lots of people around. of course I would rather play a real game at a real table but since its not an option here I'll take what I can get .
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| Posted by: OzExorcist at November 30, 2007, 3:17 am | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
They've got a section for PokerPro tables at Crown in Melbourne - while I don't dig them personally, I can kinda see the attraction.
For example, I've played a $65 tournament that they have there with live dealers every now and then. The strucutre is $50 to the prize pool and $15 to the house. They've recently moved this tournament to the PokerPro tables and, with the same buy-in, it's now a $55/$10 split. So the players are coming out ahead there.
You get more hands per hour too in theory, so the grinders looking to increase their BB/hr would be happy.
But personally... I go to a casino to play cards, with chips, and all that other fun stuff. If there happened to be a game that I really wanted to play on these tables I might give them a go, but I'm in no rush.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at November 30, 2007, 2:28 am | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by pokerchris
The above article only explains the federal law about online gamble. There are 11 states that have state laws which prohibit online gamble. That's why when doylesroom reopened, it does not open to those 11 state players. Poker Player Home Page :: Articles :: Doyle's Room Returns to the US Market.
And yet it is still incorrect to say that "pay-poker sites were banned in the US"; not to mention there being a legal distinction to be made between playing poker online and "online gambling."
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| Posted by: pokerchris at November 30, 2007, 2:27 am | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by aliengenius
1. You said you were unable to cash out, not that you were robbed by some fly by night site. Again, all the major (Ultimatebet, Stars, Absolute Poker, FT, BD) US sites allow for fairly easy (if not particularly timely) withdrawal, although you may to get/wait for a paper check.
2. You are flat out wrong about the legislation. I encourage you to educate yourself here.
The above article only explains the federal law about online gamble. There are 11 states that have state laws which prohibit online gamble. That's why when doylesroom reopened, it does not open to those 11 state players. Poker Player Home Page :: Articles :: Doyle's Room Returns to the US Market.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at November 29, 2007, 11:43 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Crummy
Remember we had a thread on the Video Poker Table a while back. Really neat, you put your hands down, see your hole cards, place bets, yada yada. We all discussed how this will probably take over casinos in the future because they won't have to pay dealers......
Just like automated blackjack tables...
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| Posted by: Crummy at November 29, 2007, 11:30 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Remember we had a thread on the Video Poker Table a while back. Really neat, you put your hands down, see your hole cards, place bets, yada yada. We all discussed how this will probably take over casinos in the future because they won't have to pay dealers......
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| Posted by: aliengenius at November 29, 2007, 10:47 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
First of all, I dont appreciate being called a liar AlienGenius. I won money on a poker site (which will remain nameless) , cashed out and never saw my money! I will allow that the $$ may have gotten lost, but either way I won and should have got my money! Electronic poker tables allow me to cash-in and out without problems!
There is a regulation in place prohibiting Internet gambling. Why else would states like Nevada be trying to fight the legislation? If you found a loophole then I applaud you.
As for the electronic tables themselves, I challenge anyone who has actually tried them to post a reply. I am able to play many more hands and I get lots of interaction. The tables I played were buzzing and I suspect as the machines are adopted, they will be the focal point of any casino.
1. You said you were unable to cash out, not that you were robbed by some fly by night site. Again, all the major (Ultimatebet, Stars, Absolu... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: unlucky79 at November 29, 2007, 10:47 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
Originally Posted by nobleadman
I have lost $$ because the sites are happy to take money off my card but they wont pay out!!
Quote: This is also crap. All the major US sites are capable of providing withdrawals.
First of all, I dont appreciate being called a liar AlienGenius. I won money on a poker site (which will remain nameless) , cashed out and never saw my money! I will allow that the $$ may have gotten lost, but either way I won and should have got my money! Electronic poker tables allow me to cash-in and out without problems!
There is a regulation in place prohibiting Internet gambling. Why else would states like Nevada be trying to fight the legislation? If you found a loophole then I applaud you.
As for the electronic tables themselves, I challenge anyone who has actually tried them to post a reply. I am able to play many more hands and I get lots of interaction. The tables I played were buzzing an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: unlucky79 at November 29, 2007, 10:43 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Yeah I agree with everyone else on this one. The casino is about Live play with live dealers real chips and cards. I would love to find the retard that made up this idea. The only reason I can see this being a benefit to the casino is they dont have to pay anyone to host the tables meaning all the money and rakes stay in play with the house. Hell I much rather stay home and play on FT myself in the comfort of my own home. Wow how stupid can you get on this one....
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| Posted by: nobleadman at November 29, 2007, 10:34 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
First of all, I dont appreciate being called a liar AlienGenius. I won money on a poker site (which will remain nameless) , cashed out and never saw my money! I will allow that the $$ may have gotten lost, but either way I won and should have got my money! Electronic poker tables allow me to cash-in and out without problems!
There is a regulation in place prohibiting Internet gambling. Why else would states like Nevada be trying to fight the legislation? If you found a loophole then I applaud you.
As for the electronic tables themselves, I challenge anyone who has actually tried them to post a reply. I am able to play many more hands and I get lots of interaction. The tables I played were buzzing and I suspect as the machines are adopted, they will be the focal point of any casino.
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| Posted by: nobleadman at November 29, 2007, 10:33 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Originally Posted by nobleadman
I have lost $$ because the sites are happy to take money off my card but they wont pay out!!
Quote: This is also crap. All the major US sites are capable of providing withdrawals.
First of all, I dont appreciate being called a liar AlienGenius. I won money on a poker site (which will remain nameless) , cashed out and never saw my money! I will allow that the $$ may have gotten lost, but either way I won and should have got my money! Electronic poker tables allow me to cash-in and out without problems!
There is a regulation in place prohibiting Internet gambling. Why else would states like Nevada be trying to fight the legislation? If you found a loophole then I applaud you.
As for the electronic tables themselves, I challenge anyone who has actually tried them to post a reply. I am able to play many more hands and I get lots of interaction. The tables I played were buzzing and I suspect as the machines are adopted, they will be t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dakota-xx at November 29, 2007, 10:15 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
They have Pokerpro tables on Carnival cruise ships now and it definitely beats no poker at all which is most likely the alternative. I actually enjoyed playing on it. It was ery sleek. My husband and I won about $1100 between us on the 5 day cruise.
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| Posted by: wsorbust at November 29, 2007, 8:53 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Why would anyone want to essentially play online poker in a casino with people who are basically sitting next to me? The reason I prefer online poker is because it is convenient. I can sit around naked for countless hours at my computer playing hand after hand until I'm blue in the face! If I wanted to go to a casino I would play poker at a real table.
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| Posted by: K_Kahne_Fan at November 29, 2007, 7:29 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by arahel_jazz
...I have seen a few electronic roulette and craps tables starting to pop up, but they don't seem to be getting much penetration into the market...
I saw these in Vegas this year. I noticed there was not the usual hoot-n-holler going on around these as there usually is around a real table. Not to mention 24 monitors seemed to take the same amount of space that 3 tables with 15 people at each table would take. You had 1 person sitting every 3 feet with their "own bubble" as apposed to 3 people every 1 foot, leaning on each other with true human interaction.
BTW, I have an "electronic" table at my house in my bedroom. Why would I want to drive/fly XXX miles to see the same thing I can see at home?
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| Posted by: arahel_jazz at November 29, 2007, 7:02 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
If people wanted to play electronic ersions of popular card games, the casinos would have tossed all of their blackjack tables years ago.
How many electronic blackjack machines do you see floating around?
Video poker seems to be the exception (5-card stud ariations).
I have seen a few electronic roulette and craps tables starting to pop up, but they don't seem to be getting much penetration into the market.
God forbid I ever see an electronic No-limit table in a casino.
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| Posted by: juiceeQ at November 29, 2007, 5:00 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by aliengenius
Poker sites were not banned in the US. Certain financial institutions were prohibited from moving money to/from them. There are still plenty of "pay-poker" sites available to US players.
This is also crap. All the major US sites are capable of providing withdrawals.
Spreading disinformation to sell your product isn't ery "Noble", "adman".
Agreed. Lame attempt at a spam set-up.
As for my opinion on the electronic table? I don't like it. If I'm going to the casino, I'm going to play cards, which in my opinion should involve actual...um...cards and stuff.
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| Posted by: aliengenius at November 29, 2007, 4:38 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
Ever since pay-poker sites were banned in the US,
Poker sites were not banned in the US. Certain financial institutions were prohibited from moving money to/from them. There are still plenty of "pay-poker" sites available to US players.
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
I have lost $$ because the sites are happy to take money off my card but they wont pay out!!
This is also crap. All the major US sites are capable of providing withdrawals.
Quote: Originally Posted by nobleadman
Well I recently went to a local casino and found the perfect table!
It is a dealerless electronic table that lets me play Texas Hold 'Em against other players live. To play is even faster than online and traditional players. Plus I get real human interaction; no more typing to chat.
Is it just me, or are these new machines the greatest thing to hit the casino floor!!
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| Posted by: philthy at November 29, 2007, 3:28 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
LOL. This is lame.
I dont want to go to a casino to play electronic poker...
I'll stay home and play Full Tilt.
LOL @ human interaction.
Casino poker is about the environment. The sounds of cards shuffling, chips shuffling, the sound of chips hitting the pot, the feel of scooping up a large pot, or pushing all of your chips in, even the feeling of peeking down at your cards and seeing AA. So many things that an electronic game can't give you. Its not the same exxperience at all. If you're at a casino, you might as well enjoy a live game.
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| Posted by: nobleadman at November 29, 2007, 3:23 pm | | Topic: Has anyone else seen the new electronic poker tables? Forum: Card Chat |
Ever since pay-poker sites were banned in the US, I have lost $$ because the sites are happy to take money off my card but they wont pay out!! Well I recently went to a local casino and found the perfect table!
It is a dealerless electronic table that lets me play Texas Hold 'Em against other players live. To play is even faster than online and traditional players. Plus I get real human interaction; no more typing to chat.
Is it just me, or are these new machines the greatest thing to hit the casino floor!!
Let me know if there are others that share my optimism.
Nobleadman
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