| Posted by: wsorbust at December 10, 2007, 9:48 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
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You're allowed to go into the military, where the mental damage is usually high (I'm sure you've seen the suicide rates of Vietnam ets), your goal is to kill people,
Really? Hmmm......The Army's new slogan.
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| Posted by: Gunns23 at December 10, 2007, 7:37 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
if people don't like snitches then the people doing wrong should keep thier mouth shut, because all it takes is 1 to hear, and then ....BAM....its out, good job i would e did the same dam thing, snitch or no snitch, talk shit and get dealt with
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| Posted by: zachvac at December 10, 2007, 7:06 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Trent's Momm
My son is 11 now and has been hunting ( shooting a gun, which is legal ) since he was 9. Of course, he was under parental supervision at all times. Yes, mistakes can happen, but if properly educated on handling guns makes that %age go down which it couldn't be high to begin with.
I do not believe people who are underage needs to be gambling. It's alot more hurtful to get in debt at such a early age when most of them still live with their parents. They haven't even had a chance to get out on their own and learn how to manage money yet!
Wow, I've said this before, how about the parent teaches their kid about money management and gambling as you have about hunting? This logic is horrible, "they don't need to" is not a logical argument. You don't need to be allowed to eat chocolate, why shouldn't the government ban chocolate?
Another point I've also made, a minor cannot go into debt. I've yet to meet a bank who will o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: jaketrevvor at December 10, 2007, 6:43 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by KyleJRM
Some of you seem to feel that children are just little ersions of adults. They aren't. Minors, even older teenagers, do not have the same brains as adults, physically or mentally. They are still developing and highly prone to poor judgment and developing addictive behavior. The rush of gambling is not good for them, plain and simple.
Anecdotal evidence of exceptions, which I'm sure there are, do not disprove the trend.
Quote: Originally Posted by zachvac
Where's the line? You're telling me there's a magical change at 18 where they suddenly have the wisdom to make good decisions?
I just don't like this logic ...
The trouble is that there is obviously not a set age where people become more responsible, it differs with each person and this makes the government applying age limits on things like online poker and also driving, drinking etc. a ery imprecise and often far too rigid system. Here in England... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: zachvac at December 10, 2007, 6:03 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by KyleJRM
Some of you seem to feel that children are just little ersions of adults. They aren't. Minors, even older teenagers, do not have the same brains as adults, physically or mentally. They are still developing and highly prone to poor judgment and developing addictive behavior. The rush of gambling is not good for them, plain and simple.
Anecdotal evidence of exceptions, which I'm sure there are, do not disprove the trend.
Where's the line? You're telling me there's a magical change at 18 where they suddenly have the wisdom to make good decisions?
I just don't like this logic, the government banning something because it is "not good for them". Heard of the obesity problem in America? Kids are doing all kinds of things that aren't good for them, and parents are letting them. It's not the role of the government to stop people from doing something that's not good for them. What are parents for?
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| Posted by: KyleJRM at December 10, 2007, 5:40 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Some of you seem to feel that children are just little ersions of adults. They aren't. Minors, even older teenagers, do not have the same brains as adults, physically or mentally. They are still developing and highly prone to poor judgment and developing addictive behavior. The rush of gambling is not good for them, plain and simple.
Anecdotal evidence of exceptions, which I'm sure there are, do not disprove the trend.
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| Posted by: zachvac at December 10, 2007, 4:40 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Cheetah
zachvac, since your parents knew about your poker playing, let's extend the argument further. You can join the military at age 17 with parental permission!
How is it possible to trust a person to be responsible enough to handle weapons and kill other people but not good enough to play 1/2c cash games online?
Hell my cousin was allowed to handle a weapon to hunt when he was like 12 I think (they live on a farm in Illinois). Making a mistake there is WAY more drastic than a mistake in poker. One slip and you could kill yourself, at least the worst thing in poker that can happen is you go broke. I guess you COULD commit suicide from the depression, but that's not an automatic thing.
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| Posted by: Cheetah at December 10, 2007, 4:33 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
zachvac, since your parents knew about your poker playing, let's extend the argument further. You can join the military at age 17 with parental permission!
How is it possible to trust a person to be responsible enough to handle weapons and kill other people but not good enough to play 1/2c cash games online?
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| Posted by: zachvac at December 10, 2007, 4:23 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by pantin007
now if an adult who knows how much he money he has and knows how much he can afford to lose can go bankrupt gambling, losig hundreds of thousands of dollars more than he has then what would happen to a child.
children are niave and dont really know the alue of money. he might put 50 on the account get that up to 200$ and then lose it .he would tell himself that since he was able to make so much out of his 50 he might deposite 100 next time then 150 then 500 and the amount he puts in get larger as he gets older thinking he can beat the system
yet he keeps on losing and losing and thinks he is too good to be losing
depositing 4 digit sums and losing that.he is too young and foolish to know when to stop.so it continues and continues and he loses and loses and soon enough he is addicted and in debt,all this before 23? thats no way t start of ur adult life is it
1 question whould u like ur child to have a gambling problem?
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| Posted by: Cheetah at December 10, 2007, 4:01 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
I think this is getting blown out of proportion here. zachvac wasn't irresponsible with his "illegal" under-age activities. I smoked cigarettes when I was underage. Shoot me for that!
The reality is that there are underage people playing and some are even ery good players. The OP was about a kid who could not control his emotions. This reminds me of Phil Helmuth. Should we ban Phil Helmuth from playing because he has the emotional maturity of a 5-year old?
Of course in the OP, that kid oluntary revealed he is doing something he knows he is not supposed to. This would be like me walking in the principal's office with a lit cigarette. I am sure zacvac wasn't bragging online he was underage. He had a more responsible attitude than many adults.
Also, if all kids are that irresponsible at 17, why are they allowed to drive cars with the potential to kill someone on the road?
The bottom line is that we have all broken arious laws. I don't consider an underage poker... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: pantin007 at December 10, 2007, 3:21 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
now if an adult who knows how much he money he has and knows how much he can afford to lose can go bankrupt gambling, losig hundreds of thousands of dollars more than he has then what would happen to a child.
children are niave and dont really know the alue of money. he might put 50 on the account get that up to 200$ and then lose it .he would tell himself that since he was able to make so much out of his 50 he might deposite 100 next time then 150 then 500 and the amount he puts in get larger as he gets older thinking he can beat the system
yet he keeps on losing and losing and thinks he is too good to be losing
depositing 4 digit sums and losing that.he is too young and foolish to know when to stop.so it continues and continues and he loses and loses and soon enough he is addicted and in debt,all this before 23? thats no way t start of ur adult life is it
1 question whould u like ur child to have a gambling problem?
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| Posted by: zachvac at December 10, 2007, 1:25 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by jeffred1111
NH OP.
And I've seen a lot of kids (but also adults) with gambling problems and it's no fun. An aunt in my family had herself barred from the casino and now puts on wigs and stuff to get in anyway: surprise, surprise, she started going to Vegas with her first husband (who was filthy rich, trustfund kid) back when she was 16.
And yes, she did marry at 16.
Nice story, no proof of causation. Correlation does not equal causation.
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
Spoken like a true ex-juvenile delinquent. You broke the law, sir. Also, while breaking the law by gambling under age, you iolated any gambling site's terms of service and lied on the sign up agreement by stating that you were over 18.
I said this was true, even mentioned hoping the statute of limitations was up. But I didn't exactly pretend the information was factual, I also said I was from Bobville Alaska zip code 12345. De... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: jeffred1111 at December 10, 2007, 5:16 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
NH OP.
And I've seen a lot of kids (but also adults) with gambling problems and it's no fun. An aunt in my family had herself barred from the casino and now puts on wigs and stuff to get in anyway: surprise, surprise, she started going to Vegas with her first husband (who was filthy rich, trustfund kid) back when she was 16.
And yes, she did marry at 16.
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| Posted by: MrSticker at December 10, 2007, 4:45 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
There is a reason for an age limit on gambling and poker. Most minors don't have the discipline to manage money properly. I think the accused "snitch" did this boy a favor by protecting him and his family from future costly mistakes.
There is also the aspect of keeping online gaming clean. Reporting iolators (meaning those who break ANY rule or law) helps the sites cover themselves and avoid those stories by parents who say their kids got addicted to online poker and then they go to Congress to testify about it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by zachvac
I disagree. If a kid is old enough to own money and spend money, he should be able to gamble by buying a CD (will the songs on it ju... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: zachvac at December 10, 2007, 3:59 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSticker
There is a reason for an age limit on gambling and poker. Most minors don't have the discipline to manage money properly. I think the accused "snitch" did this boy a favor by protecting him and his family from future costly mistakes.
There is also the aspect of keeping online gaming clean. Reporting iolators (meaning those who break ANY rule or law) helps the sites cover themselves and avoid those stories by parents who say their kids got addicted to online poker and then they go to Congress to testify about it.
I disagree. If a kid is old enough to own money and spend money, he should be able to gamble by buying a CD (will the songs on it justify the money spent?), junk food (will the temporary good taste justify the money spent?), investing in the stock market, buying any product, and gambling. Any purchase is a gamble. We're allowed to pay for entertainment but we can't pay for entertainment when we have a shot at winn... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: royalburrito24 at December 10, 2007, 2:21 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
O.K. I agree that you should report this behavior, but I would shrug it off and let the kid lose his money to me.
Normally if I want to get back at a player, I look up their horrible sharkscope and pokerdb stats and rub it in their face!
Lie or Die!
lol
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| Posted by: jaketrevvor at December 10, 2007, 1:15 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by arahel_jazz
Careful, I've heard those Brits like a good spanking.
I wonder where you heard that you filthy american boy - rrrrrRRrrr!
But in all seriousness I would only accept this kind of punishment from AG.. did I say that out loud
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| Posted by: arahel_jazz at December 10, 2007, 1:02 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Cheetah
OK, I will not turn you in. But you deserve a spanking for this.
Careful, I've heard those Brits like a good spanking.
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| Posted by: MrSticker at December 10, 2007, 1:01 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
There is a reason for an age limit on gambling and poker. Most minors don't have the discipline to manage money properly. I think the accused "snitch" did this boy a favor by protecting him and his family from future costly mistakes.
There is also the aspect of keeping online gaming clean. Reporting iolators (meaning those who break ANY rule or law) helps the sites cover themselves and avoid those stories by parents who say their kids got addicted to online poker and then they go to Congress to testify about it.
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| Posted by: Cheetah at December 10, 2007, 12:36 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by jaketre or
OK OK!! I admit it - I'm 8 years old and play poker for a living pweez don't turn me in pwetty pweez!
OK, I will not turn you in. But you deserve a spanking for this.
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| Posted by: juiceeQ at December 10, 2007, 12:28 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Crummy
I agree, but I don't consider this guy a snitch! If your underage and playing poker, good for you, many pro's did this and this is how their careers got started, but keep it to yourself. Don't make yourself a target. It was this guys own fault!
Quote: Originally Posted by skoldpadda
If the kid hadn't opened his trap he wouldn't have put himself in the situation to get busted. WP
This. ^^ Good for you. I've known people to be underage and play, but they weren't an ass like this guy. He was asking for it.
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| Posted by: KyleJRM at December 10, 2007, 12:27 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
I have no problem snitching in this situation. I pay the poker site (via rake) for the opportunity to play within a controlled environment according to the rules they set out. As a customer, I have no problem alerting management when that agreement is not being followed. I want what I paid for.
I'll let it slide if it is just abusive chat for the most part, but I've had guys tell their table-buddies what cards they just folded while the hand is still going on.
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| Posted by: Crummy at December 10, 2007, 12:13 am | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by royalburrito24
genuine response, but I dont really like snitches
just my personal opinion
doesnt mean i dont like you, just snitching is something that I have never done and dont plan on doing
but yes genuine response im sure
I agree, but I don't consider this guy a snitch! If your underage and playing poker, good for you, many pro's did this and this is how their careers got started, but keep it to yourself. Don't make yourself a target. It was this guys own fault!
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| Posted by: royalburrito24 at December 9, 2007, 11:30 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
genuine response, but I dont really like snitches
just my personal opinion
doesnt mean i dont like you, just snitching is something that I have never done and dont plan on doing
but yes genuine response im sure
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| Posted by: didimaketherightplay at December 9, 2007, 11:26 pm | | Topic: i made a difference! mwahahaha! Forum: Card Chat |
earlier i was at a table and busted some guy out. he got all phil helmiuthy on me and he began saying such things as "I'm 17 and i make more money then your parents" and went on for 20 minutes on the rail talking about how great his life is compared to everyone there. So it was no issue for me to report he admitted to being underage. I probably wouldn't have reported him if he hadn't been an ass wipe. heres the response letter i got from PS...
Hello Adam,
Thank you for your report of this chat.
Poker Stars is committed to responsible gaming, and as such underage
players are not allowed on Poker Stars. The minimum age requirement to play
on Poker Stars is 18 years of age.
Most often such chat is done in jest by players who are of legal age, but
we take no chances in such cases. Poker Stars treats such chat claims just
as airport security treats "jokes" about bombs -- serious and factual
until proven otherwise. As such, I ha... | | Read Entire Entry |
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