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Posted by: aliengenius at December 21, 2007, 5:44 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by allndave

i think the question was for pot odds not hand improving odds , pot odds how much is in the pot s what it will cost to see anouther card and then how about implied odds how many calling stations behind you etc. so if only cost 1 bet to win 11 i guess you are suppose to chase that gutshot?

Yes, if its 11:1 you should chase. Surely no one thinks, "huh, he just bet 8% of the pot and that's only x % of our stacks so I should call" in situations like that. I think the human brain is going to convert it to some kind of ratio (not %) automatically.
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Posted by: Aalgaard at December 21, 2007, 8:06 am
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

Think I use a weird combination of both. Whatever that seems comfortable..
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Posted by: allndave at December 21, 2007, 12:11 am
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

i think the question was for pot odds not hand improving odds , pot odds how much is in the pot s what it will cost to see anouther card and then how about implied odds how many calling stations behind you etc. so if only cost 1 bet to win 11 i guess you are suppose to chase that gutshot?
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Posted by: KingNothing4 at December 19, 2007, 1:12 am
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

i use percentage somewhat, but i still needa do some reading to strengthen my overall poker knowledge, i have some, but not a whole lot
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Posted by: switch0723 at December 18, 2007, 5:17 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

ahh i see, cheers for that AG. Actually looks a lot easier to use ratios with that info
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Posted by: pantin007 at December 18, 2007, 5:02 am
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by aliengenius

Ratios normally, % when in all-in situations. Remember, you should be calculating your odds one street at a time, so knowing that you are 35% on the flop to hit your flush doesn't really help you (that's the % with two cards to come). It's really a simple memorization:

outs-- ratio

1-- 46:1
2-- 23:1
3-- 15:1
4-- (gut shot) 11:1
5-- 8:1
6-- (over cards) 7:1
7-- 6:1
8-- (oesd) 5:1
9-- (flush draw) 4:1
10-- 3.7:1
11-- 3.3:1
12-- 3:1
13-- 2.6:1
14-- 2.4:1
15-- 2.1:1

If you were able to successully memorize your multiplication tables this should be no problem. Really, you could probably get buy with just to bold ones.

what AG said
thats about it
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Posted by: aliengenius at December 17, 2007, 11:34 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

Ratios normally, % when in all-in situations. Remember, you should be calculating your odds one street at a time, so knowing that you are 35% on the flop to hit your flush doesn't really help you (that's the % with two cards to come). It's really a simple memorization:

outs-- ratio

1-- 46:1
2-- 23:1
3-- 15:1
4-- (gut shot) 11:1
5-- 8:1
6-- (over cards) 7:1
7-- 6:1
8-- (oesd) 5:1
9-- (flush draw) 4:1
10-- 3.7:1
11-- 3.3:1
12-- 3:1
13-- 2.6:1
14-- 2.4:1
15-- 2.1:1

If you were able to successully memorize your multiplication tables this should be no problem. Really, you could probably get buy with just to bold ones.
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Posted by: Bentheman87 at December 17, 2007, 10:08 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

Yeah ratios ARE a lot faster, I think I'm gonna try using only ratios. The only reason I normally use % is it's easier to to get an idea of just how big of a favorite or underdog you are in a hand. I mean, if you know you're a 1.8:1 dog with two cards to come is great when you need to figure out the correct mathematical decision, but I have a clearer mental picture of where I'm at if I know I'm only about 35% to win
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Posted by: switch0723 at December 17, 2007, 9:59 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

you should have actually put up a poll . Anyway i use percentages aswell since i know how to work out parcentages based on outs. While i dont know how to do it using odds. I have an A Level in maths aswell, so i can work out pot odds quickly using percentages
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Posted by: Steveg1976 at December 17, 2007, 9:56 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

Ratios are faster for me to do. I am slow enough as it is.
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Posted by: Bentheman87 at December 17, 2007, 9:45 pm
Topic: Poll:Do you use percent or ratios when figuring out pot odds? Forum: Card Chat

I prefer to use percentages, even though it takes a little more work convert from ratios. How about you guys?
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