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Posted by: Monoxide at December 29, 2007, 11:08 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Achtung nein Poker!

lol, well to be serious this sucks for germany - although i saw above how fast italy changed its law...could happen to germany too.

and how exactly do u stop someone from playing? im sure if germans WANT to poker it up bad enough, they will find a way illegally.
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Posted by: PrinceSheba at December 29, 2007, 8:11 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

just a friendly request again. Does anyone know which site might list each country's status as far as online poker? Like which ones are considering bans and such. Anyone know where to keep track? where there is a good listing?

thank you.
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Posted by: KingCurtis at December 28, 2007, 5:31 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

wow i really didnt think that any other country would ban online gambling hopefully germany can pul together as a country like us and form an alliance.
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Posted by: rodpoker at December 28, 2007, 4:51 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

This only confirms my opinion that "Big Brother" truely is watching over us, and he's gone "world wide". What a creepy feeling.
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Posted by: vagas35 at December 28, 2007, 4:46 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

germany first rest of the european union next,where will it end?
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Posted by: premierplayer at December 28, 2007, 4:25 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Let us do what we want with our money. If you want part of the profits open up a damn betting site on German soil and make it better than the other ones out there.. isn't that a true free market?
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Posted by: SilentJay at December 28, 2007, 4:22 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

I'm pretty sure that the ban only refers to sports betting and lotteries. That's what's been in the media over here (in Germany) for quite a while now. There's never been any mention of online poker. And apparently, according to an article I read recently, most of these idiots trying to ban online gambling didn't even know anything about online poker, and said they were just focusing on sports betting. I hope that's true.

The best thing about it is that they want to make it illegal for private companies to offer sportsbooks, etc. But it's perfectly OK for the state-run sportsbook and lottery to offer the exact same thing. Ridiculous.
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Posted by: flint at December 28, 2007, 2:18 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by Chris_TC

If this is truly going to happen, I swear I'm going to relocate.
I would think that the European Commission is going to stop it though.

Definately. I just don't get how stupid the government has to be to make laws that contradict with the EU laws. A german person or ISP couldn't be prosecuted by the law anyways as one can say that the actions are legal under EU law. In effect the law will be useless.
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Posted by: Chris_TC at December 28, 2007, 1:26 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

If this is truly going to happen, I swear I'm going to relocate.
I would think that the European Commission is going to stop it though.
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Posted by: Cheezymadman at December 28, 2007, 1:01 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

At least this means the tables will be less full.
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Posted by: beardyian at December 28, 2007, 1:00 pm
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

If i didnt know better i would say it must be April Fools day - its just insane

It appears it has nothing to do with the people playing online or the amount etc, the government of that individual country (France, Germany + USA etc) want to control and keep within its own borders all the money that is gambled.

They dont want millions of people - potentially - weakening the economy by losing their Euros, dollars to people in another country and boosting that money market.


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Posted by: Boltneck at December 28, 2007, 10:30 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Being English, it's not often I have anything good to say about EU politics or law, and this is no exception - it's a long winded beurocratic joke. Paradoxically, that's good news in this case as by the time they've finished arguing about it, they will have forgotten what they were arguing about and the USA will be back in the online poker fraternity!
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Posted by: Effexor at December 28, 2007, 7:08 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

I doubt this will actually happen, and if it does will probably be ery short lived.

Several months ago, Italy passed a law to ban online gaming. The European Court of Justice overturned it, and now as of Jan 1, Italy is making online gaming legal.

Italy will legalize online poker: US bill to ban online gambling at standstill

So I seriously doubt the German law will last long at all. I *think* the Italian one was overturned rather quickly.
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Posted by: PrinceSheba at December 28, 2007, 7:04 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Wow, had there been any run-up to this happening. I had heard nothing about this possibility. Had you? And if so, have you heard of any other countries that are considering this? Anyone know about Panama? Where is the best source for a worldwide listing on this?
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Posted by: riffpoker at December 28, 2007, 6:51 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Germany to Ban Online Gambling Jan. 1 Under Accord by States

By Karin Matussek
Dec. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Online gambling will be banned in Germany as of Jan. 1 after German states ratified an accord that preserves the country's state monopoly for lotteries and most forms of betting.
At least 13 of Germany's 16 states have submitted the ratification documents, Eric Braum, a spokesman for the Hesse government, which monitors the process, said in an interview today. ``That's the required majority and we expect to have all the rest coming in by New Year's Eve.''
All 16 state legislatures oted by mid-December to approve the new online-betting laws, which the states negotiated after the Federal Constitutional Court ruled in 2006 that the former model was unconstitutional. The new rules, which expire at the end of 2011, have drawn criticism from Internet betting companies and lottery brokers like Bwin Interactive Entertainment AG, Fluxx AG and Tipp24 AG.
The new rules ban any form of ...
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Posted by: tigertight at December 28, 2007, 1:30 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Thanks Nick, I May have to move to Germany in a few months for work....
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Posted by: dj11 at December 28, 2007, 1:28 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

The state wants its rake!
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Posted by: dakota-xx at December 28, 2007, 1:25 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

That is terrible - we have some members over there.
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Posted by: wickedlovely at December 28, 2007, 1:23 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

Wow, and I thought the US had the market on this type of insanity. Does at least look like from some comments in the article that there's hope the new German ban will be overturned quickly.
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Posted by: pantin007 at December 28, 2007, 1:20 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

omg what a blow to the online economy
i really dont understand why online gambling is so hated upon yet they do nothing to prevent live gambling in casinos
poor germans yall will be missed
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Posted by: Nick at December 28, 2007, 1:09 am
Topic: Germany to Ban Online Poker Forum: Card Chat

More bad news, this time from Germany. They are planning to ban online gambling / online poker from Jan the 1st.

Bloomberg.com: Germany


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Online gambling will be banned in Germany as of Jan. 1 after German states ratified an accord that preserves the country's state monopoly for lotteries and most forms of betting.


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