| Posted by: AlexeiVronsky at January 20, 2008, 9:00 am | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Well it's obviously better to take a lot of small advantages as the ariance will be lower, but that is an increased amount of time, and rational people aren't likely to let you take a lot of small advantages over them in most situations. I'd certainly be willing to risk my life savings on such an event, though my life savings are smaller than my bankroll.
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| Posted by: zachvac at January 19, 2008, 9:19 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Actually we had just learned that in econ the other day, thinking on the margin and ignoring sunk costs and such. It seems that poker and econ are extremely similar. Both basically involve money and decision-making.
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| Posted by: NineLions at January 19, 2008, 8:51 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by zachvac
Not in interactions like that, but more in actual actions. Whenever someone tries to say "well we've been waiting in line for an hour already, we don't want to have wasted an hour" or the classic "we don't want all the soldiers to have died in ain". I try to explain that the hour and the soldiers are already in the pot, they're not ours anymore. The options are simply spend more time/soldiers for a result or don't spend anything for nothing. Mostly it's just decision-making, and the fact that poker would really help peoples' decision-making skills in life in general.
But the thing that reminds me of it the most is for example there are two ways to leave our neighborhood. One has a light and we turn right at it but there's no right turn lane so if there's a car in front of you you have to wait for it to turn. The other way's just a stop sign but it's a bit longer in terms of distance. So it's rush hour and we left because at... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: NineLions at January 19, 2008, 8:43 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by ChuckTs
lol you realize how odd this sounds?
Odd to you, but even odder to someone who doesn't play poker I'll bet.
The subconscious is capable of making all kinds of connections, identifying similarities, and re-interpreting things. For example a lot of dreams get based on one issue or situation that the dream replays but with substitute actors or locations. I'm not saying that's what happens in your dreams, but just that I think that my subconscious recognised a situation that I've faced before. A situation with interaction, a challenge, probably some low levels of aggression, and so it called up my programming for the situation; evaluate the situation, the risk/reward, the options, and a conscious choose to fold.
It's more common in extreme trauma situations; the rape ictim who becomes afraid of any underground parking lot, or the child of an alcoholic abusive parent who becomes afraid of any person who has been drinking.
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| Posted by: ChuckTs at January 19, 2008, 7:43 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by AlexeiVronsky
I'm going by the assumption that the money isn't immediately necessary, like you've already paid rent for the month and bought groceries that's what I meant by savings.
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Quote: Originally Posted by AlexeiVronsky
IIf you were to give people the opportunity to risk their life savings with a 51% advantage paying even money
Anyways it's similar to the 'would you rather take one $5000 shot with AA s 22, or five thousand $1 shots with the same hands?'. It's a matter of ariance - if the money doesn't mean anything to you then the ariance isn't really an issue. I assume if it's your life savings that you would respect the money though
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| Posted by: AlexeiVronsky at January 19, 2008, 7:29 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
No, a wise player wouldn't do that because the loss would be more significantly more damaging than the benefit. ie. sleeping on the street/having $1000 more dollars. I'm going by the assumption that the money isn't immediately necessary, like you've already paid rent for the month and bought groceries that's what I meant by savings.
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| Posted by: zachvac at January 19, 2008, 7:20 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by AlexeiVronsky
I notice that I analyze things by risk/reward, and tend to think of things in poker terms, I think it's along the lines of if the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. To be a good poker player you have to train your mind to think in different ways than normal situations. When you look at most people they're extremely risk averse, as losing x is more detrimental than gaining x is beneficial. If you were to give people the opportunity to risk their life savings with a 51% advantage paying even money, most people wouldn't take it despite it being positive expectation, but I would wager that a lot of poker players would think "Hmm, I'm the favourite, and I can always get more money if I lose." and be willing to take the bet. And since poker is primarily an analytic and logical game when played properly, the lessons at the table can be used profitably in any situation that calls for good reasoning ability.
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| Posted by: KingCurtis at January 19, 2008, 7:19 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
i actually realized this before and never really said anything......but i think poker has helped me with my patience...there has been plenty of times where i would have never had the patience to deal with something or somebdy but from playing so many hands and tournaments...I have built such personal patience......plus math skills also can be attained from poker....think about it statistics, odds, outs, all that good stuff....poker is just great!!!
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| Posted by: ChuckTs at January 19, 2008, 7:17 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by NineLions
The interesting thing was afterwards how much that interaction felt like a poker hand. Like he minraised preflop into my BB with other callers, I caught a piece of the flop and bet out, but he kept insisting that he had a hand.
lol you realize how odd this sounds?
In the sense that you're talking about, no I don't really have this happen to me often enough to remember any specific time, but there were some instances I can remember. Things like waking up from a dream about poker and still thinking about it when I got up.
Definitely a sign we play too much
Poker has influenced my life and changed me in other ways though too. Things like discipline, habit-forming, thinking objectively, tilt control (anger management ) etc. have definitely transfered from poker to real life for me.
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| Posted by: zachvac at January 19, 2008, 7:17 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Not in interactions like that, but more in actual actions. Whenever someone tries to say "well we've been waiting in line for an hour already, we don't want to have wasted an hour" or the classic "we don't want all the soldiers to have died in ain". I try to explain that the hour and the soldiers are already in the pot, they're not ours anymore. The options are simply spend more time/soldiers for a result or don't spend anything for nothing. Mostly it's just decision-making, and the fact that poker would really help peoples' decision-making skills in life in general.
But the thing that reminds me of it the most is for example there are two ways to leave our neighborhood. One has a light and we turn right at it but there's no right turn lane so if there's a car in front of you you have to wait for it to turn. The other way's just a stop sign but it's a bit longer in terms of distance. So it's rush hour and we left because at least when the light turns we can go, but we find o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: AlexeiVronsky at January 19, 2008, 7:14 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
I notice that I analyze things by risk/reward, and tend to think of things in poker terms, I think it's along the lines of if the only tool you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. To be a good poker player you have to train your mind to think in different ways than normal situations. When you look at most people they're extremely risk averse, as losing x is more detrimental than gaining x is beneficial. If you were to give people the opportunity to risk their life savings with a 51% advantage paying even money, most people wouldn't take it despite it being positive expectation, but I would wager that a lot of poker players would think "Hmm, I'm the favourite, and I can always get more money if I lose." and be willing to take the bet. And since poker is primarily an analytic and logical game when played properly, the lessons at the table can be used profitably in any situation that calls for good reasoning ability.
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| Posted by: NineLions at January 19, 2008, 6:24 pm | | Topic: How has/does poker affect the rest of your life? Forum: Card Chat |
Like anything that we do often/regularly poker probably has an effect on the other parts of our lives.
A few days ago I was heading to work, getting ready to cross a relatively busy (2 lanes both directions) street. There is a crosswalk, but I know that it takes a long time to start. I was a little ways away yet when the light changed for some other pedestrians who were already at the corner. The traffic coming towards me had stopped for the light, there was one car headed the other direction that had stopped and one more slowing down so I angled my way accross the street, went between the two stopped cars and to the corner.
A somewhat shabbily dressed guy started yelling at me; "Hey, you've got to cross at the crosswalk. Hey, I'm talking to you"
At first I started to try to explain to him, then considered arguing with him, but he went on "If you get hit, it's your own fault. I've seen three accidents just like that ...."
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