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Posted by: Gonzo787 at February 23, 2007, 12:23 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
laurenman wrote: Gonzo, and in 2/4 short handed? Thank you in advance.

Its the same in all SH games using this formula 7/x*0.5, where x is the clearance rate of your bonus.

So in terms of rakeback, bonuses at Ongame can be represented as:
5x: 140% full, 70% SH
7x: 100% full, 50% SH
10x: 70% full, 35% SH
12x: 58% full, 29% SH
15x: 46% full, 23% SH
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Posted by: laurenman at February 21, 2007, 6:52 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
Gonzo, and in 2/4 short handed? Thank you in advance.
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Posted by: Gonzo787 at February 20, 2007, 11:24 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
thenutsnut wrote: thenutsnut wrote: Can someone tell me how the bonus clears at 1/2 full ring? At .5/1 it works out to about 12 points per table hour...kinda slow.

Is a 7.5X bonus at 1/2 pretty much like getting 100% rakeback?

A 7x bonus on the Ongame Network is like 100% RB. If you want to figure the RB %'s for the other bonuses just use "7/x", where x is the clearance rate. For example, a 10x bonus would be about 70% RB (7/10). For SH, multiply the rate by 0.5. A 10x bonus for shorthanded play would be like 35% RB.

Does that answer your question?
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Posted by: thenutsnut at February 19, 2007, 7:57 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
thenutsnut wrote: Can someone tell me how the bonus clears at 1/2 full ring? At .5/1 it works out to about 12 points per table hour...kinda slow.

Is a 7.5X bonus at 1/2 pretty much like getting 100% rakeback?
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Posted by: Mitch at February 19, 2007, 12:27 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
farf,

Hate to burst your bubble but as previously stated you recieve points based on dealt rake, regardless of the number of hands you win.

This is how it works on all pokerroom skins.

If this was not the case none of us whores would play the ongame network as the bonus would distrupt on of the major fundamentals of whoring - Playing Tight!

Test your theory again and if what you say is actually happening then you need to contact support.

Mitch
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Posted by: superius at February 18, 2007, 10:14 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
farf wrote: Pokerroom does things a bit funny. You only get credit for PP when you are credited with giving rake, and you are only credited for giving rake when you WIN a pot. So, whether you clear your bonus faster at one limit then the other has only to do with how well you were playing. I have played tens of thousands of hands on the pokerroom network, and I am as sure as sure can be regarding this. If you dont believe me, play for an hour and just fold and see how many PP you get, then play the equivalent number of hands and win. If you check your PP between sessions, you will see that you gained almost 0 PP when you were folding.

I dunno what crappy deal you are getting but I play tons on Ongame and on tons of different ongame skins and never had this riddiculous method of getting points calculated. As per their T&C I have found that you receive the same # of points if you fold preflop or win the pot - if you are dealt cards and the pot is raked you get pp's
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Posted by: grim at February 18, 2007, 4:34 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
You just proved yourself wrong, all pokerroom network sites give points the exact same way.
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Posted by: farf at February 17, 2007, 11:04 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
Quote: I have played tens of thousands of hands on the pokerroom network, and I am as sure as sure can be regarding this.
perhaps double check?

Double checked. 22,186 from September 18, 2005. On just Pokerroom (and network) sites.

Quote: If you dont believe me, play for an hour and just fold and see how many PP you get, then play the equivalent number of hands and win. If you check your PP between sessions, you will see that you gained almost 0 PP when you were folding.
im more interested in how you can decide what pots you are going to win - mind sharing the secret?[/quote]

You misunderstood. Im not saying will all the hands, just win some. The actual number of won hands in unimportant, what is important is that you win more hands then you did when you folded for the hour (which presumably is 0)

Again, I am pretty well sure of what I am saying. Hollywood Poker I just cannot win on and I have never been able to clear a bonus (even the sma...
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Posted by: ComptechSC at February 17, 2007, 7:09 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
horrible players on this network, at low NL , donkeys will call all in with basically crap ie. J6sooted
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Posted by: thenutsnut at February 17, 2007, 6:33 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
Can someone tell me how the bonus clears at 1/2 full ring? At .5/1 it works out to about 12 points per table hour...kinda slow.

Is a 7.5X bonus at 1/2 pretty much like getting 100% rakeback?
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Posted by: grim at February 17, 2007, 5:27 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
I 4-tabled NL100, got 100-110 points per hour. Saw flop ~16-20%.
The points are based on dealt rake.
Also all these problems with the bonus seem absurd. You just need to contact them with a polite and well written message and you will surely get the bonus.
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Posted by: ForgiveMe4ImDumb at February 17, 2007, 4:38 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
farf wrote: Pokerroom does things a bit funny. You only get credit for PP when you are credited with giving rake, and you are only credited for giving rake when you WIN a pot.
this is wrong

Quote: So, whether you clear your bonus faster at one limit then the other has only to do with how well you were playing.
if this was the case, id never ever ever clear an Ongame bonus

Quote: I have played tens of thousands of hands on the pokerroom network, and I am as sure as sure can be regarding this.
perhaps double check?

Quote: If you dont believe me, play for an hour and just fold and see how many PP you get, then play the equivalent number of hands and win. If you check your PP between sessions, you will see that you gained almost 0 PP when you were folding.
im more interested in how you can decide what pots you are going to win - mind sharing the secret?
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Posted by: GoldBoar at February 17, 2007, 4:35 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
Guess I get to be the first to say this is complete and utter BS. From PokerRoom.com's Help page, choose "FAQ", then search for "rake":

"You do not have to pay rake to earn points. If you are sitting out you will not earn any points."

I've whored at Hollywood Poker, and this is how it works.
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"So you put the caulk in the crack... and that's home improvement?"
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Posted by: farf at February 17, 2007, 3:33 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
Pokerroom does things a bit funny. You only get credit for PP when you are credited with giving rake, and you are only credited for giving rake when you WIN a pot. So, whether you clear your bonus faster at one limit then the other has only to do with how well you were playing. I have played tens of thousands of hands on the pokerroom network, and I am as sure as sure can be regarding this. If you dont believe me, play for an hour and just fold and see how many PP you get, then play the equivalent number of hands and win. If you check your PP between sessions, you will see that you gained almost 0 PP when you were folding.
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Posted by: lyckodan at February 11, 2007, 8:08 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
The amount of points you are getting seems reasonable to me, even a bit high. I have played 4.5 hours 2-5 tables NL 25, 50, 100, 200 and I have 133 pts (on my newly started Red Kings bonus)
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Posted by: nobi at February 11, 2007, 4:28 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
yes, it is hard to lose over 100$, while clearing just 100 or so, I wonder If
limit 1/2$ is really better than limit 050/1$? May those guys at 1/2$ just hhave more money but play the same nonsense as on 050/1$...
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Posted by: Pinos at February 10, 2007, 2:53 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
nobi wrote: yes it is brutally slow clearing at 050/1$, I would like to move up but I am scared to lose at 1/2 FL. At 050/1, I am about even at least I don't loose.. so to say during the last 2 weeks.when I really started to play there...I read books of course...I wonder if 1/2 is so much harder?

Be sure not to go over your head (and your roll) i was doing very good at .5/1 while clearing TG but points were too slow... so i went up to 1/2, points were smooth but i had a really bad night and end up loosing over $100 with a deposti of $170, 3 hours playing and a hell lot of ups/downs... im sure it was my fault but when i checked stats at PT i was ok, so many $20 pots suckouts...

I endup not being able to clear the bonus for trying to clear it faster, maybe of course your not such a donk like myself lol...
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Posted by: nobi at February 10, 2007, 1:18 pm
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
yes it is brutally slow clearing at 050/1$, I would like to move up but I am scared to lose at 1/2 FL. At 050/1, I am about even at least I don't loose.. so to say during the last 2 weeks.when I really started to play there...I read books of course...I wonder if 1/2 is so much harder?
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Posted by: superius at February 10, 2007, 11:55 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
Hard to say if its right or not. I've found the OnGame network is very inconsistent in the clearance of bonuses at times. Some times you are on and it is donkey city and there are routinely huge pots worth a lot of player points and other times almost all the tables are 25% preflop and small pots. Since the points you get are proportionate to the rake paid, bigger pots clear the bonus faster.

Also when I first started I played .5/1 limit and found it BRUTAL on the OnGame network to clear bonus. Now that was over a year ago and changes have been made that help, but you clear bonus so much faster at 1/2 there that you may want to consider a shift up if your roll can support it and you are consistently winning at the .5/1
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Posted by: nobi at February 10, 2007, 6:27 am
Topic: PokerRoom bonus Points Forum: Bonus Whores
I am doing the signup, but got credited just 85 PP for over 2 hours of play
with 3 tables on limit 050/1$.
That cant be right I guess. Who knows somethting about this?
When I started I calculated 67 PP for 1 hour 3 tabling. But now and a few hours before it seems that it became harder to clear...
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