| Posted by: TylerSalzman at August 15, 2005, 1:31 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Party Poker and its skins have the best security of any of the sites out there. Don't mess with them by starting more than one account, they will bust you, unless you have different IP's. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 14, 2005, 4:41 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | TheFreeze wrote: Krakilin wrote: we need more threads like this...
No we don't, but I guess responses like this make up for otherwise wasting my time . . .
Here's the next topic up for debate... http://www.bonuswhores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12926 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at August 14, 2005, 9:52 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Gonzo787 wrote: I just wrote this for the 101. I'm actually quite proud of it, but I'm sure Hof can go to task on the grammar.
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As poker has boomed in popularity in the last couple years, online poker whoring has also grown. Smart, astute players have realized that bonus whoring can be very lucrative- to the point where ?professional bonus whores? are starting to pop up. Sites are usually more than happy to oblige because offering online poker bonuses is a very valuable promotional tool for poker sites to attract players. In a competitive market, offering poker players bonuses is a MUST to stay viable. Bonus whoring is not always easy, however. Each site has their own terms, requirements, and quirks that players will experience. Online Poker Bonuses can be confusing. Just because a site has a big bonus does not mean it is ?better? than other bonuses available. These are issues that all bonus whores will encounter, so we felt the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TheFreeze at August 14, 2005, 2:18 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: we need more threads like this...
No we don't, but I guess responses like this make up for otherwise wasting my time . . .
J-Dogg wrote: I agree your posts are very entertaining.
If you had a better dictionary or read further, you'd know that the word 'whore' also means to pursue an idolatrous desire. I think that defines bonus-chasing very well.
Now if you'd bothered to look up the word 'scam', you'd understand why everyone here got upset.
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| Posted by: J-Dogg at August 13, 2005, 7:17 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | I agree your posts are very entertaining.
If you had a better dictionary or read further, you'd know that the word 'whore' also means to pursue an idolatrous desire. I think that defines bonus-chasing very well.
Now if you'd bothered to look up the word 'scam', you'd understand why everyone here got upset. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 13, 2005, 6:58 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | FeelingLucky wrote: Good addition, Gonz. It does feel like some people think this is all a very cloak and dagger sneaky type operation, where us "whores" try to cheat and scam the sites and get away with it. I think that is part of why threads like this one pop up - they consider it a legitimate question in the spirit of bonus whoring.
I guess they haven't stopped to consider why there are 20-30 poker rooms affiliated with this site, that are more than happy to accept sign-ups from the BonusWhore community.
Man, this thread is entertaining, I love reading people's respondes here, we need more threads like this...
Yeah, first of all, I already apologise didn't mean to "offend" anyone here, I'm not trying to cheat, and everyone here pretty much told me that the "scam" is not worth doing. That's fine, that was my question and I got answer, so thanks guys for your help I'll just stick with other Party "skins"
I don't know how people came to the conclusion that ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: FeelingLucky at August 13, 2005, 6:00 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Good addition, Gonz. It does feel like some people think this is all a very cloak and dagger sneaky type operation, where us "whores" try to cheat and scam the sites and get away with it. I think that is part of why threads like this one pop up - they consider it a legitimate question in the spirit of bonus whoring.
I guess they haven't stopped to consider why there are 20-30 poker rooms affiliated with this site, that are more than happy to accept sign-ups from the BonusWhore community. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at August 13, 2005, 1:27 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Gonzo787 wrote: I just wrote this for the 101. I'm actually quite proud of it, but I'm sure Hof can go to task on the grammar.
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As poker has boomed in popularity in the last couple years, online poker whoring has also grown. Smart, astute players have realized that bonus whoring can be very lucrative- to the point where ?professional bonus whores? are starting to pop up. Sites are usually more than happy to oblige because offering online poker bonuses is a very valuable promotional tool for poker sites to attract players. In a competitive market, offering poker players bonuses is a MUST to stay viable. Bonus whoring is not always easy, however. Each site has their own terms, requirements, and quirks that players will experience. Online Poker Bonuses can be confusing. Just because a site has a big bonus does not mean it is ?better? than other bonuses available. These are issues that all bonus whores will encounter, so we felt the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Gonzo787 at August 13, 2005, 1:26 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | I just wrote this for the 101. I'm actually quite proud of it, but I'm sure Hof can go to task on the grammar.
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As poker has boomed in popularity in the last couple years, online poker whoring has also grown. Smart, astute players have realized that bonus whoring can be very lucrative- to the point where ?professional bonus whores? are starting to pop up. Sites are usually more than happy to oblige because offering online poker bonuses is a very valuable promotional tool for poker sites to attract players. In a competitive market, offering poker players bonuses is a MUST to stay viable. Bonus whoring is not always easy, however. Each site has their own terms, requirements, and quirks that players will experience. Online Poker Bonuses can be confusing. Just because a site has a big bonus does not mean it is ?better? than other bonuses available. These are issues that all bonus whores will encounter, so we felt the need was there for a bo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at August 12, 2005, 5:29 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Gonzo787 wrote: Krakilin wrote: phatlad wrote: Oh, I see. Collusion isn't kosher, but stealing is. THAT makes sense.
LOL, why do you think this site is called "bonuswhores"... ROFL because we're all exploiting the bonuses from these pokersites maybe? How is that "stealing" btw, stealing is "To take (the property of another) without right or permission", d/l Mp3s and Movies? But anyway, seems like everybody has atleast 2 partyskins if not more... and I read the user agreement or whatever in party poker, doesn't say anywhere you can't have another acct with a different company like Empire, Inter etc.
We are called "bonuswhores" because we whore bonuses, however, everything is done within the site's rules. 95%+ of the sites featured on this site have at least or better than a neutral feeling towards us as a site.
This is correct. We do exploit sites but once again using the word exploit makes it sound horrible. We use the system and the system... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Gonzo787 at August 12, 2005, 2:35 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: phatlad wrote: Oh, I see. Collusion isn't kosher, but stealing is. THAT makes sense.
LOL, why do you think this site is called "bonuswhores"... ROFL because we're all exploiting the bonuses from these pokersites maybe? How is that "stealing" btw, stealing is "To take (the property of another) without right or permission", d/l Mp3s and Movies? But anyway, seems like everybody has atleast 2 partyskins if not more... and I read the user agreement or whatever in party poker, doesn't say anywhere you can't have another acct with a different company like Empire, Inter etc.
We are called "bonuswhores" because we whore bonuses, however, everything is done within the site's rules. 95%+ of the sites featured on this site have at least or better than a neutral feeling towards us as a site. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: FeelingLucky at August 12, 2005, 1:52 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | I think the title of the thread ("Would this scam work", if it is ever edited) says about all that needs to be said about the original intention.
I hope we all have been able to discourage Krakilin and others reading this post from pulling something stupid like that though, and if everyone just reads the FAQs and BW101 guides they can easily enjoy multiple Party skin bonuses the legal way like everyone else. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: phatlad at August 12, 2005, 12:46 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: LOL, why do you think this site is called "bonuswhores"... ROFL because we're all exploiting the bonuses from these pokersites maybe?
Right, but this site isn't called stealing scam whores now is it? No.
Krakilin wrote: How is that "stealing" btw, stealing is "To take (the property of another) without right or permission", d/l Mp3s and Movies? But anyway, seems like everybody has atleast 2 partyskins if not more... and I read the user agreement or whatever in party poker, doesn't say anywhere you can't have another acct with a different company like Empire, Inter etc.
That's exactly right. But I refer you to your first god damned post in this thread, where you had planned on making two separate accounts at partypoker to "take advantage" (i.e. FUCKING STEAL) a second bonus.
Krakilin wrote: You have 1 partypoker acct, and cash out with cheque to your address, and make deposits using credit card.
Now you create ANOT... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jay at August 12, 2005, 10:21 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: phatlad wrote: Oh, I see. Collusion isn't kosher, but stealing is. THAT makes sense.
LOL, why do you think this site is called "bonuswhores"... ROFL because we're all exploiting the bonuses from these pokersites maybe? How is that "stealing" btw, stealing is "To take (the property of another) without right or permission", d/l Mp3s and Movies? But anyway, seems like everybody has atleast 2 partyskins if not more... and I read the user agreement or whatever in party poker, doesn't say anywhere you can't have another acct with a different company like Empire, Inter etc.
Yes, but that isn't what you were talking about a minute ago, now is it?
You were quite clear about wanting two PartyPoker accounts, to take advantage of the same bonuses twice. However, I'm glad that you've come to the conclusion that you can get by with just having accounts at multiple skins. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 12, 2005, 10:01 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | phatlad wrote: Oh, I see. Collusion isn't kosher, but stealing is. THAT makes sense.
LOL, why do you think this site is called "bonuswhores"... ROFL because we're all exploiting the bonuses from these pokersites maybe? How is that "stealing" btw, stealing is "To take (the property of another) without right or permission", d/l Mp3s and Movies? But anyway, seems like everybody has atleast 2 partyskins if not more... and I read the user agreement or whatever in party poker, doesn't say anywhere you can't have another acct with a different company like Empire, Inter etc.
Now Collusion is different, Collusion is stealing from other PLAYERS, I would be pissed off if people are colluding (sp?) on a table, but if everybody on the table is bonus whoring, I wouldn't give a sh!t, see the difference? O wait you'll too busy d/l your MP3s and your windows is a LEGAL copy that you paid for LOL. Talking about that, that WGA is a bitch, we're all going to get screwed onces MS fixed that WGA c... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: phatlad at August 12, 2005, 12:37 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: dokoko wrote: I am glad Party (and other sites) try to identify (and ban) people having multiple accounts under different identities - to prevent collusion. They do this in my interest.
Having accounts at different Party skins is another story. As they won't let you take two seats at the same table, there is no collusion possible.
Sorry, my post was to scam on bonuses and not trying to create any kind of collusion, I usually open 4 tables and play low-limit to clear bonuses fast, just that I need more ways to fast bonuses and PartySkins seems to have the best bonus offers and that's why I'm asking
Oh, I see. Collusion isn't kosher, but stealing is. THAT makes sense. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: jmbfl at August 11, 2005, 8:24 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Krakilin: Don't be an idiot. Attempting to do what you are suggesting will lead to your accounts being frozen and your funds siezed w/o recourse. Is it worth $1000 to try to scam and extra $100? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 9, 2005, 7:59 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | dokoko wrote: I am glad Party (and other sites) try to identify (and ban) people having multiple accounts under different identities - to prevent collusion. They do this in my interest.
Having accounts at different Party skins is another story. As they won't let you take two seats at the same table, there is no collusion possible.
Sorry, my post was to scam on bonuses and not trying to create any kind of collusion, I usually open 4 tables and play low-limit to clear bonuses fast, just that I need more ways to fast bonuses and PartySkins seems to have the best bonus offers and that's why I'm asking | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dokoko at August 9, 2005, 3:19 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | I am glad Party (and other sites) try to identify (and ban) people having multiple accounts under different identities - to prevent collusion. They do this in my interest.
Having accounts at different Party skins is another story. As they won't let you take two seats at the same table, there is no collusion possible. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Gamblor444 at August 9, 2005, 2:37 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | This scam isnt worth it. Knowledge of an extra two cards or even 4 cards in Holdem, especially limit, wouldnt do you jack shit, and youd more than likely end up making bad plays because you wouldnt know how to properly collude.
There's a lot more to the scam and its do-able but you don't sound like you have a clue so I'd put the chances on you pulling it off at about 0%.
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| Posted by: TheFreeze at August 9, 2005, 12:27 am | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | frozone wrote: first, good luck with a credit card actually working here..
The OP used the word "cheque." Something tells me his credit card would work.
As for his "scam" . | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at August 8, 2005, 5:23 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | If you don't like playing on Party then I suggest you try robbing them of money. They'll catch up to you sooner or later. Threads like this bring up the horrible words "collusion" and "rigged" and "gnoming". Please don't be that guy!
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| Posted by: frozone at August 8, 2005, 3:14 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | of course, they can track IP addresses.. among other things.
first, good luck with a credit card actually working here..
second, the cash out check will be going to your home address? What address are you going to be putting with your Neteller? Duplicate names, addresses, and phones are going to set off a security flag instantly - if logging on from the same IP doesn't get you first. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: blosky2001 at August 8, 2005, 2:41 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Hah....my damn girlfriend won't let me use her info to sign up. We live together and have been together for 5 years so you think she would do it. She's wary about giving her info to a poker site. I tried explaining it to her every possible way but she wouldn't budge. I guess she's not the one....lol. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at August 8, 2005, 2:34 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | I recommend you have your "girlfriend" or "friend" signup.
Also make sure "they" have their own Neteller/Firepay account. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Verdi at August 8, 2005, 2:18 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | | If you want to beat the system you can. Theoretically I could sit here and play Party signups every night and become a rich man. I know how to do it but I choose not to. I suggest that you play Bodog instead. It's almost as good and it's legal. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 8, 2005, 1:32 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | FeelingLucky wrote: Yes, that is what I am saying. Or rather: what I am saying is that it was legit last time I checked. While the Party network has made it tricky (but far from impossible) to sign up at multiple of their sites, it has not been against the rules.
I have accounts at several, and at every sign-up after the first I got a call from their network to verify my account. And yes, they were fully aware that I had accounts at the other skins, and they were perfectly fine with it. No need to use fake identitys or other subterfuge.
There are tons of posts about multiple Party skin accounts, there is the FAQ, the Bonus Whoring 101 and lots of other information about the practicalities. Stick with what is allowed, is my recommendation. You can always read each site's terms and conditions to be sure what is allowed, and as things change over time, that may be wise. I can only vouch for what they contained when I signed up.
Ok, so do you have those skins all installe... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: FeelingLucky at August 8, 2005, 1:06 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Yes, that is what I am saying. Or rather: what I am saying is that it was legit last time I checked. While the Party network has made it tricky (but far from impossible) to sign up at multiple of their sites, it has not been against the rules.
I have accounts at several, and at every sign-up after the first I got a call from their network to verify my account. And yes, they were fully aware that I had accounts at the other skins, and they were perfectly fine with it. No need to use fake identitys or other subterfuge.
There are tons of posts about multiple Party skin accounts, there is the FAQ, the Bonus Whoring 101 and lots of other information about the practicalities. Stick with what is allowed, is my recommendation. You can always read each site's terms and conditions to be sure what is allowed, and as things change over time, that may be wise. I can only vouch for what they contained when I signed up. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: theblitz at August 8, 2005, 1:03 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: Ok, so how is that any different? So you're saying you can have one acct in Party and say another acct in Empire? And is that legit?
It's the same as the differance between "Tax Avoidance" and "Tax Evasion".
The first one is great and legal - the second one lands you in jail. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at August 8, 2005, 1:02 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: FeelingLucky wrote:
While having accounts at different skins are not (at least were not, haven't re-read the terms lately).
Ok, so how is that any different? So you're saying you can have one acct in Party and say another acct in Empire? And is that legit?
No nobody here has more than 1 account on the network. Time to choose. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 8, 2005, 12:50 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | FeelingLucky wrote:
While having accounts at different skins are not (at least were not, haven't re-read the terms lately).
Ok, so how is that any different? So you're saying you can have one acct in Party and say another acct in Empire? And is that legit? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: FeelingLucky at August 8, 2005, 12:41 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: You have 1 partypoker acct, and cash out with cheque to your address, and make deposits using credit card.
Now you create ANOTHER partypoker acct with a different PC I suppose, but use your NetTeller acct to make deposits and withdraws.
So now you have 2 different partypoker accts but they won't know it's from the same person. However, do they keep track of IPs?
Or would this work better with 2 different skins?
Gah!
There is more than enough money flowing out there in bonus offers at various sites not to have to pull "scams"! Having more than one account at any of the Party skins is strictly against their terms and conditions - while having accounts at different skins are not (at least were not, haven't re-read the terms lately).
There is a huge difference between going after anything you are allowed to, and deliberatly breaking rules to squeeze out a little bit extra from anywhere. Just don't do it! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Jay at August 8, 2005, 12:39 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | Krakilin wrote: You have 1 partypoker acct, and cash out with cheque to your address, and make deposits using credit card.
Now you create ANOTHER partypoker acct with a different PC I suppose, but use your NetTeller acct to make deposits and withdraws.
So now you have 2 different partypoker accts but they won't know it's from the same person. However, do they keep track of IPs?
You've used up all the poker bonuses that exist, and now you need to commit an act of fraud to get more? Or are you trying to put both accounts at the same table so that you can cheat the other players?
And you think that publically asking how to do this is a good idea? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Krakilin at August 8, 2005, 12:34 pm | | Topic: Would this scam work? Forum: Bonus Whores | You have 1 partypoker acct, and cash out with cheque to your address, and make deposits using credit card.
Now you create ANOTHER partypoker acct with a different PC I suppose, but use your NetTeller acct to make deposits and withdraws.
So now you have 2 different partypoker accts but they won't know it's from the same person. However, do they keep track of IPs?
Or would this work better with 2 different skins? | | Static Link |
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