| Posted by: eeeee at December 7, 2005, 12:21 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | antipete wrote: Can someone say why the bonus is so tough to clear?
I always looked at Pacific as a give money away site just to bring people to that rotpile so I find it hard to believe that they would wanna piss people off by having truly harsh requirements on this bonus.
The explaination I like is that they think like a casino. Most poker rooms have a raked hands requirement -- Pacific counts your wagers like a casino. Counted wagers is like a contributed rake, slowing down bonus clearance. It slows it further because you can only play one table. Pacific also rakes uncalled bets (horrible), but that policy helps you to clear your bonus by using the all-in-to-win -- you'll lose a couple chips, but the whole bet counts toward clearing the bonus. One of the positives about the Pacific bonus is that tournament buyins count toward your wager req -- playing a $10+1 SNG? that is $10 off the $2000WR -- not too many other rooms give bonus to tourny players. And the best part of the bonus ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: antipete at December 6, 2005, 2:19 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Can someone say why the bonus is so tough to clear?
I always looked at Pacific as a give money away site just to bring people to that rotpile so I find it hard to believe that they would wanna piss people off by having truly harsh requirements on this bonus. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at December 6, 2005, 9:47 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | taundyt wrote: Didnt read the whole thread thoroughly, but why not just play a "friend", and dump all your money to him at NL, make it look good, play heads up. No worrying about clearing raked hands and such.
I havent actually TRIED it, but ignore me if im wrong or its already been covered.
Wow - isn't a bonus enough without having to do the collusion thing?
I can't see anybody replying that they have done that anyway - admitting to it would be a worse step than suggesting it....
_________________
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: taundyt at December 6, 2005, 8:12 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Didnt read the whole thread thoroughly, but why not just play a "friend", and dump all your money to him at NL, make it look good, play heads up. No worrying about clearing raked hands and such.
I havent actually TRIED it, but ignore me if im wrong or its already been covered. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: 11Finger at December 5, 2005, 5:23 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | dynacraze wrote: i deposited and withdrew the 400 dollar to get a 100 dollar bonus. Basically a freebankroll. My question is since i will never meet the bonus requirements, how many days do i have b4 the bonus expires? I heard it was 60 or 90 days i think. Also, i was thinking of having a buddy of mine open a pacific account for me so i can play it in my computer so i can play higher stakes just in case if i can make some extra money since it is a free bankroll. Anyone know if this would cause BOTH of the accounts to be closed? i will play his and my acct on my computer but i will signup his account and log on it in another computer first. Thanks.
Dyna how did your experiment go ? Did you have any problems ? I'm thinking of doing the something similar, I'll stake my cousin take out my money let him play the $100 then we split whatever gets left once the bonus is cleared (that way if nothing is left I wouldn't have wasted my time, just my cousin's)... Would anybody know if there I would e... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at December 4, 2005, 11:40 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | dynacraze wrote: i withdrew 50 dollars. It is beign processed as shown in the cash out thing. I tried to cash another portion of it since i had over 100 dollars. I think it was unsuccessful or denied for soem reason. Can you withdraw one day after the other assuming you still have 100 at least dere since i won't be able to cleaer the bonsu. Meaning let say if i go up to 150 today. Can i withdraw 50. And this process continues assuming i win everyday. Or do i have to wait until the last cashout is processed b4 i cash out again. Thanks.
I've not tried two at once. Latest cashout from 30/11 has just arrived - was showing on cashout history as PAID yesterday and hit NT today. So 4 days in total.
I'm just happy to try to win some, cash some out and play elsewhere until the cash gets home.
_________________
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dynacraze at December 3, 2005, 6:27 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | i withdrew 50 dollars. It is beign processed as shown in the cash out thing. I tried to cash another portion of it since i had over 100 dollars. I think it was unsuccessful or denied for soem reason. Can you withdraw one day after the other assuming you still have 100 at least dere since i won't be able to cleaer the bonsu. Meaning let say if i go up to 150 today. Can i withdraw 50. And this process continues assuming i win everyday. Or do i have to wait until the last cashout is processed b4 i cash out again. Thanks. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Roymund at December 2, 2005, 6:47 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | They do check when you withdraw to see if you cleared the whole bonus. I wagered about $1300 and was getting sick of the slow software and server crashes so I tried withdrawing it all but it didn't work. So I just played a lot over the next 2 days and finally cleared the rest of the bonus. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at December 2, 2005, 6:27 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | dynacraze wrote: thx. How long have u been at pacific with the free bankroll? Have u had it over the 90 day period or less? I only converted less than a dollar of the pacific bonus even though i play 1/2 limit but pacific is very hard to clear as shown int he chart.
I'm about half way through the 90 days - see my previous posts on this and another thread.
I was originally told my bonus was going in about 3-5 hrs by CS after 14 days when I panicked after seing their old T&C - I then played a $100 buy-in 6 seater - I made 2nd and cashed out my excess there and then ($65 inc other profit 'till then). Since then I just play there for fun and practice (my Paradise playground of recent posts)
But I think it is my favourite site to play at, if only just as a break.
Put in terms of cars, it is the Aston Martin or Morgan of the online poker world!
_________________
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunde... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dynacraze at December 2, 2005, 6:06 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | thx. How long have u been at pacific with the free bankroll? Have u had it over the 90 day period or less? I only converted less than a dollar of the pacific bonus even though i play 1/2 limit but pacific is very hard to clear as shown int he chart. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at December 2, 2005, 3:43 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | dynacraze wrote: hey i have did the freebankrooll thign with pacific. i went up to 200 but dropped under to 100 now i m up to like 150. Can i withdraw the 50 dollars since my bonus is never going to clear and have at least 100 there. Since i did went up 100 earlier, and lost it all i felt that i wasted my time I feel that i should have withdrew my 100 so i did make a 100 profit and then just play with the other 100 i still have there. Would this be a problem?
As far as I know you can draw out ...
(current balance - bonus amount) + dollars wagered/20
I am doing my second withdrawal now, but as it takes a week, I won't know if it is OK for a few more days. My balance after the withdrawal will be $10 above the orignal bonus, but I reckon I could draw about another $35 out now because I have wagered about $500.
Therefore if you are 150, and bonus was 100, you can draw out the 50 + any extra due to wagering at 20X requirement.
Anything above the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: dynacraze at December 2, 2005, 2:31 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | hey i have did the freebankrooll thign with pacific. i went up to 200 but dropped under to 100 now i m up to like 150. Can i withdraw the 50 dollars since my bonus is never going to clear and have at least 100 there. Since i did went up 100 earlier, and lost it all i felt that i wasted my time I feel that i should have withdrew my 100 so i did make a 100 profit and then just play with the other 100 i still have there. Would this be a problem? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 18, 2005, 10:41 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | I emailed to try to find out about the time for this bonus, + how much of the bonus I had done - the bonus counter doesn't take tourneys into account.
Emails to Pacific regarding bonus counts seem to be sent on to their played-money-counting associate, and THEY don't seem to know when the bonus expires other than the normal 14 day thing, although they did give me an accurate update on money I had wagered so far.
To reiterate: Once again I was told that normal bonuses end after 14 days, unless bonus-specific, so no help there.
BW states 90 days so I will go with that until advised otherwise... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Roymund at November 17, 2005, 12:55 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | It's not that hard to clear the bonus. In the last 2 weeks I've made about $700 from this initial $100 bonus. The people at Pacific are just TERRIBLE. I'm about half done the bonus and playing here has actually made me reconsider doing bonus whoring at all when I can just play at a crappy site like this and rake in the cash. On the Pacific T&C it actually says you have only 14 days to complete the bonus but it's been 14 days and they haven't taken it away from me and a bunch of people here are saying 60 days. So I'm not sure about that. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dynacraze at November 17, 2005, 10:29 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | i deposited and withdrew the 400 dollar to get a 100 dollar bonus. Basically a freebankroll. My question is since i will never meet the bonus requirements, how many days do i have b4 the bonus expires? I heard it was 60 or 90 days i think. Also, i was thinking of having a buddy of mine open a pacific account for me so i can play it in my computer so i can play higher stakes just in case if i can make some extra money since it is a free bankroll. Anyone know if this would cause BOTH of the accounts to be closed? i will play his and my acct on my computer but i will signup his account and log on it in another computer first. Thanks. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 16, 2005, 2:02 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | pulper_80 wrote: Don't chisel, cashout! Chisel at an Empire 10x reload
Did you read my post(s)? - No way I am going to try cashout when I already did a partial cashout that was stopped!
Chiseling at this bonus is incidental - I am having FUN there!
And I am doing Empire too - then I chill at Pacific..... OH8/SnG/Tourney/NLHE etc etc.. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 16, 2005, 12:40 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Mikke_ wrote: I got an extra $60 for some reason when i did the $400 deposit for $100 bonus.
I was unsure what this this extra $60 was, so I just tried to cash it out, expecting a message explaining what it was for. I was surprised to see the cashout process being initiated.
However, a few days later (earlier this week) I got a message explaining that I couldn't withdraw the $60 until I had played through $1200, and that I should reverse the cash-out or they would cancel it when the cash-out time came.
I explained what had happened, reversed the cash-out, and everything is friendly with the fraud dept. now!
I guess some may slip past the net, but they obviously are checking at least some bonus cash-outs.
Sit-rep:
Since then I went to this site several times last week, playing whatever game/tourney I feel like - winning some/losing some, but am staying level at my $160 bonus. I've just started NL a few bucks at a time to get a fee... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: pulper_80 at November 16, 2005, 12:21 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Gonzo, Jek,
The Pacific cashout bug/ignorance still works.
Deposited to get the full $100 bonus, only played about 1/10th of the requirements, cashed out the full amount and it worked.
One thing, I left about a buck in my account just in case some software would raise a flag at a 100% cashout, so I suggest anybody who is going to try this in the future do the same.
_________________
You now prossesses Dracula's nail. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pulper_80 at November 10, 2005, 9:50 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Well it looks like the early cashout worked, but I won't be 100% sure until the money hits Neteller. I got this this morning:
Quote: Dear Sneaky Cashout Weasel
Thank you for playing at Pacific Poker.
According to our records, you have one or more cashout request(s) which is(are) due for process.
The details of the refund(s) are as follows:
Cashout ID xxx details; please save this number for future reference.
- NETeller Account, Amount = $10.00, Date = 11/09/2005, Account =
- NETeller Account, Amount = $169.00, Date = 11/09/2005, Account =
NETeller:
Payment to your NETeller account will be posted within 48 hours as credited from: Pacific Poker.
I had $180 in there and I cashed out $179 just in case a full cashout would draw a flag. Why on earth would they split it into 2 cashouts, one of which only being 10 bucks? These guys are weird... I only wagered about $300 toward the bonus as opp... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 8, 2005, 11:57 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | My bonus had not expired yet and has gone past 2 weeks now - seems like I was given bad info. by C.S. live support. I certainly wouldn't have played a $100+$9 if I hadn't thought it was about to expire.
I will see what happens once my winnings get back home....
A question - if my bonus remains active, and I play some more with the $160, and lose some of it, could they retrieve the $65 profit I cashed out to offset this loss, even after it gets back to Netteller | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dynacraze at November 8, 2005, 10:47 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | i am very confused with all these comments. I haven't played my accoutn because my money hasn't reached my neteller. I deposited and withdrew last week on thursday. So let say the money hits my neteller this thursday... ddoes that mean i have only 7 days to play my bonus? Also... if i get my 100 dollar bonus up to say 160 by the following thursday... would my account read only 60 dollars since the 14 day would have elapsed and the 100 dollar bonus be subtracted from my total amoount. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 7, 2005, 8:15 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | I decided to start this bonus today - lost about $4.50 about 7/8 days ago after deposit got back home, trying s/w out. Tonight I played a $4+0.50 40 player SnG and had a few breaks to win it - but then saw the general bonus requirements rule - elapsing 14 days from bonus being applied. Spoke to live support (very good btw) and they confirmed this - and I was now $35+ up, but realised I had only 3 hours left before bonus was dying - due to waiting till money back home + waiting for answer to cashout/cancel cashout thing mentioned before.
Gambled with my $35+ cos of overlay - played a 5 seat $100+9 - never played more than a $20 before
Played scared for a bit - as if they may come back to Netteller for the cash if I was out of the money. Got into it (beer to kill nerves) - played OK and got riverred when heads-up at about 2/3 stack underdog - $41 profit! If I'd not made the money I had enough left for a $50 shot and then a $20.....
Did a $65 cashout and ran for the hills!... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 7, 2005, 11:11 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Quasimodo63 wrote: don't just leave the $100 in there to rot. Play 3/6 or 5/10 and hope you hit a couple of big hands, then cash out your profit and try again with the $100. Or buy into a big sit and go.
That's what I intend to do - I am up to 1/2 in normal play now, but will move up a level for the experience if nothing else! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 6, 2005, 7:01 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | I got an extra $60 for some reason when i did the $400 deposit for $100 bonus.
I was unsure what this this extra $60 was, so I just tried to cash it out, expecting a message explaining what it was for. I was surprised to see the cashout process being initiated.
However, a few days later (earlier this week) I got a message explaining that I couldn't withdraw the $60 until I had played through $1200, and that I should reverse the cash-out or they would cancel it when the cash-out time came.
I explained what had happened, reversed the cash-out, and everything is friendly with the fraud dept. now!
I guess some may slip past the net, but they obviously are checking at least some bonus cash-outs. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: elric at November 6, 2005, 5:07 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | I would withdraw the $80 and wait till it hits your neteller. Otherwise if they catch it you will get one of these:
==========
Dear Greedy Bonus Whore,
This is Rebecca Geddes from the Operations Department at Cassava (Gibraltar) Ltd.
Cassava (Gibraltar) Ltd operates "Pacific Poker".
I am contacting you in regards to your Pacific Poker account with username "PacificPokerSucksDonkey".
Our Bonus Policy states that Pacific Poker reserves the right to withhold the amount of the bonus from player's cashout funds if the bonus is wagered less than the required amount.
Your game history shows that you requested a cash out without wagering the bonus funds correctly according to this Bonus Policy.
Hence you may cancel this current cashout from your account, wager the remaining amount of $2898.86 accordingly and then request a new cash out, which will be duly processed. However, if you will not, then the cashout will be returned back to th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: pulper_80 at November 6, 2005, 4:56 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | Don't play the 100 bonus until the 400 hits your neteller account! From what I've read, they will reverse the transaction if you drop below 100 balance in your Pacific cashier account.
It has been more than 14 days since I intially deposited and they have not taken away the 100 bonus. I think I am going to try to withdrawal all $180 and see what happens.
_________________
You now prossesses Dracula's nail. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dynacraze at November 6, 2005, 11:29 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | i deposited and withdrew the same day. My question is 14 DAYS your bonus would go back to 0 if you don't play it during that 2 week span? Is this always true? Also.. should i play the 100 dollar bonus even though the 400 dollar hasn't reached my neteller account yet because the bonus is all i can lose right? to the original poster... after u waited 7 days for it to hit your neteller account.. did you only have 7 day b4 your bonus of 100 disasppeared and you only had 80 left afterwards? thanks. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Roymund at November 6, 2005, 12:09 am | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | According to the terms and conditions of the bonus you have to clear it within 14 days, after which they supposedly take it away from you. I just deposited and worked the $100 bonus up to about $294 in about 2 days. Man this site really is loose. I'm only about 1/3 through the bonus but should finish it within the supposed 14 day time frame. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bb88 at November 5, 2005, 3:43 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | | I cashed out my full balance, including a bonus I only cleared about 10-20% of, about a month after my first deposit and had nothing go wrong whatsoever. I would think you'd be alright, and the worst that could happen is they'd probably not give you the $100, but send you the $80. Worth a shot IMO. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pulper_80 at November 5, 2005, 3:31 pm | | Topic: What is the penalty for Pacific cashout bug test Forum: Bonus Whores | I did the initial signup, got the bonus, then withdrew my $400 deposit. Waited until money hit Neteller (about 1 week), and then I had the $100 in bonus money to play with. I am up to $180 right now. There is no way I am going to clear the bonus requirements, so I have two options:
1.) I could cash out $80 and still leave the $100 bonus money in there. This would certainly work, but I really don't want to spend any more time at that crappy room.
2.) I could try to cash out the full amount and see what happens. I know other people have reported being able to cash out the bonus money before clearing the requirements, but nobody has reported what the penalty is if they catch it. Do they void the entire cashout procedure, thus tying up my $80 winnings for like 2 weeks, or do they only take back the bonus money?
I hope somebody has a definitive answer to this, but I expect it will be more like "Anything can happen over there, those people have their heads up their ass".
... | | Read Entire Entry |
|