| Posted by: winbig at August 13, 2006, 1:04 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
I've talked with Laurant some more on this, and he continues to insist that they indeed had accounts with CP in the past, but now they're closed; and not getting paid for any of this.
Another angle on this would be that the Vegas Red group contracted directly with the company doing all this spamming.
If that's the case, this group needs to be rogued immediately.
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| Posted by: Andreas at August 4, 2006, 5:22 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
Well, it's gotten to the point that I've started forwarding every single email (including headers) that I recieve from this group to CP once they come in.
I'd suggest everyone take a few minutes out of their day and do the same thing. Maybe they'll get a clue once they start getting hundreds more spam reports everyday.
To: spam@casinopartners.com
CC: laurent@casinopartners.com
Not to step on your toes, but what do you think to archive with that? Casino Partners is getting since months all this crap forwarded not only from me, but from not only a handfull of webmasters. They must been getting a shitload of this spam forwarded every single day... I don't even think anymore that they even check all this mails, probably even forward all this forwarded e-mails ia a spamfilter in their own spam mail boxes...
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| Posted by: kwblue at August 4, 2006, 2:43 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
BTW - What I think is REAL DAMN INTERESTING is the fact that they stopped the casino emails, but continue with the 'make your woman feel good' emails.
Thanks Casino Partners! I appreciate the fact that they got my email addresses (somehow) as a Casino-targetted email and now use it to SPAM other stuff like stocks to watch, pornography, and drugs.
Makes you feel all good inside, I hope.
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| Posted by: kwblue at August 4, 2006, 2:33 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
I will be doing the same. However, as soon as it was mentioned on the boards - my address was removed from the list (I think).
I believe that CP is not being pro-active or STOPPING their business with this 'agency'. I believe they are only asking them to remove email addresses of people that they know are outraged.
Just my opinion, though, because as soon as I have mentioned it over at CAP - I never got another email from this group. This happened both times.
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| Posted by: winbig at August 4, 2006, 2:16 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Well, it's gotten to the point that I've started forwarding every single email (including headers) that I recieve from this group to CP once they come in.
I'd suggest everyone take a few minutes out of their day and do the same thing. Maybe they'll get a clue once they start getting hundreds more spam reports everyday.
To: spam@casinopartners.com
CC: laurent@casinopartners.com
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| Posted by: winbig at August 2, 2006, 5:49 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
I've been assured that Vegasred is still looking into this. Lest we forget a lot of these casinos have employees in Israel, and some key individuals may not be available at the moment.
Don't forget - Tropez and Europa are being spammed by this group also; using the same affiliate ID's...
xxxhttp://www.viplucklounge.com/roller/ is one of their spam sites, and there's links for all 3 at the bottom of that page.
BetCity is just a cover for Tropez. It seems each spammer comes up with their own website..
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| Posted by: ezlxq at August 2, 2006, 3:07 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
By the way, the Affiliate ID pulled from the .exe is egas47.
Correct. I just got this one spammed to me today as well
Quote:
You've been selected to play at the.. HI-ROLLER CASIN0!
Your promotional ID is IIZ02525103
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Benefits include:
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* Rapid payouts to all clientele & 24/7 support
* Great games, Big Winnings, & thousands of players
Fabulous. Now it goes by the name "BetCity".
I am sending every single one of these to the FTC, as well as to several attorneys who are now actively monitoring this abuse.
ezlxq
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| Posted by: winbig at August 1, 2006, 7:16 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
This time they're using Tropez as their main target, NOT Vegas Red.
Looks like the same people. Emails are word for word, and the ID's are the same.
I guess nothing is going to be done about these assholes.
Quote:
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Delivered-To: xxxxx@gmail.com
Received: by 10.35.74.5 with SMTP id b5cs288964pyl;
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| Posted by: wangpoker at July 28, 2006, 3:30 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
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| Posted by: wangpoker at July 26, 2006, 4:55 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
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| Posted by: kwblue at July 26, 2006, 12:49 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Same thing happened to me, Winbig. As soon as I forwarded an email to CP AND discussed the topic avidly over at CAP, ALL emails stopped. This included a lot of 'Check out this stock' and 'Your wife will love this' type of emails.
Something was done - too bad CP will NEVER be honest enough to tell the complete truth. However, I believe that is because it hasn't stopped. My bet is that they stopped targetting webmasters, which are where probably 99 - 100% of the complaints are coming from.
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| Posted by: winbig at July 26, 2006, 8:35 am | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Is it just me, or has the Hi-Roller $888 spam mails stopped?
If it is just me, is it just a coincidence that my email address was actually blacklisted from the spammers, or is it final proof that CP have knowlege, as well as contact, with the spammers in question?
2 reasons I say this:
1) emails stopped almost IMMEDIATELY after I had several email conversations with a contact at CP.
2) The only person that knew of the email address I have been getting spammed at was that same contact at CP. I edited this email address out of every header I've posted regarding this matter.
To me, this is more than just a mere coincidence....I think they're still condoning this spam, as well as giving them information as to who may be a "problem", and have them removed before it escalates any further with that person.
And again, if they are still sending these mails, I'm sure they're still getting paid, no matter what CP claims.
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| Posted by: ezlxq at July 26, 2006, 2:09 am | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Someone posted this message in the CAP forum. One of the spammers forgot to switch out their subject line (which was for their VegasRed spam) and instead had that as the subject for a well-known, internationally illegal pharmacy spam operation:
Quote:
spam : Our bonus for you: $888 FREE TODAY!BULK
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Now: while that's obviously a pretty retarded mistake to make, it exposes this spammer for who he is.
That url is for an "International Legal RX" website. "International Legal RX", "My Canadian Pharmacy" an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: winbig at July 25, 2006, 1:05 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Mousey
I am now receiving this 'new' casinoneat spam in an online email account which is never used for anything to do with online gaming. But note that that particular email address has been hit hard, ery hard, by spammers beginning during the winter. My only thought is that someone deliberately added that email to spammer lists. I receive over 200 spams a day in that account (drugs, enlargers, porn, casinos, surveys, etc.) Yes, I need to just dump the addy, and will, when I have the time to get a few 'change of address' things done.
Don't forget, some spammers will try every conceivable letter combination for gmail, yahoo, etc. to try and fish out working email addresses...
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| Posted by: Mousey at July 25, 2006, 11:47 am | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
I am now receiving this 'new' casinoneat spam in an online email account which is never used for anything to do with online gaming. But note that that particular email address has been hit hard, ery hard, by spammers beginning during the winter. My only thought is that someone deliberately added that email to spammer lists. I receive over 200 spams a day in that account (drugs, enlargers, porn, casinos, surveys, etc.) Yes, I need to just dump the addy, and will, when I have the time to get a few 'change of address' things done.
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| Posted by: winbig at July 25, 2006, 1:00 am | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by ezlxq
Casino Partners can say "third party this" or "third party that". It's bullshit. They know they have spammers, they are liable. It's not stopping. I personally am consulting my lawyer about this and have recommended several dozen others to do the same in their jurisdiction. Attorney General Spitzer has successfully brought numerous such lawsuits and it irtually eliminated 80% of all the porn spam that was out there. I'm going to make sure his office is made aware of this abuse as well.
Are you referring to the AOL case against the porn company 5 years ago?
This is EXACTLY the same scenario except in this case it's casino spam and not porn.
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| Posted by: ezlxq at July 24, 2006, 8:39 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
This "Secure casino" is just their way of covering up the true casino; which in this case is Tropez.
Aha. So it is again a Casino partners spammer
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
For some reason, they advertise behind a front, then when you download the setup .exe, it's for a totally different casino. *shrug*
Spam rule #1: Spammers lie.
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
My problem with this is:
Is it me or is this "Third party company" excuse being played out more and more nowdays where SPAM is concerned?
and Down 90%? Sure. Then why are we all still getting the same amount of mails?
Okay so: as someone who has been following spam lawsuits for a while, and in particular regarding porn and casino spam, here are the facts.
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| Posted by: winbig at July 24, 2006, 8:14 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
This "Secure casino" is just their way of covering up the true casino; which in this case is Tropez.
For some reason, they advertise behind a front, then when you download the setup .exe, it's for a totally different casino. *shrug*
I've been informed that (and I quote) "Traffic has
dropped 90% since thursday" and "this network of spammers came through a third party company tha we deal with for a long time."
My problem with this is:
Is it me or is this "Third party company" excuse being played out more and more nowdays where SPAM is concerned?
and
Down 90%? Sure. Then why are we all still getting the same amount of mails?
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| Posted by: ezlxq at July 24, 2006, 6:58 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Thank you for the communication on this issue.
I continue to get spammed for Vegas Red / Hi-Roller casinos, usually with urls which are either dead or which now feature placeholders by the ISP.
However I just got one yesterday (claiming to be hi-roller) which used to be a egas red site:
Code:
http://www.CasinoNeat.net
It's now "Secure Casino".
That redirects to:
Code:
http://xpshhbah.info/defaultem/
Which is where the download is also hosted.
The affiliate ID enclosed in the exe appears to be "defaultem", which makes sense since that's what the URL has as the subdirectory.
When you close that window it pops a new one (which gets around all the toolbars I tested it on) for a dating site.
Code:
http://www.amateurdatingcams.com/?WMID=73163&WMEC=0&CTRLID=JlA99&PID=1 &pop=2
Webmaster / affiliate id = 73163
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| Posted by: Andreas at July 23, 2006, 3:40 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Yep, its the same spammer, I downloaded the software and extracted the affiliate code: egas63
This one is one of the 70 affiliate accounts used for spamming Vegas Red over the last two month... (check my other posts)
If you receive again any spam, would you please post it to my forum?
Thanks
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| Posted by: winbig at July 23, 2006, 3:20 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Andreas
what for domains are being advertised in the spam you received for Tropez?
also the .info out of my last thread?
Nope, the last one was a redirect to iplucklounge.com. Can't recall the redirect name, but it was definately a .com.
Seems they're advertising Tropez, Vegas Red, and Europa on that site.
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| Posted by: Andreas at July 23, 2006, 2:21 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
They promote Tropez also since may.... thats the time the first spammails hit in germany...
The domains involved here are:
casincasa.info Created On:26-Apr-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
cazinoplay.info Created On:23-Jun-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
greenplay.info Created On:02-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
game-star.info Created On:10-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: omega
casino-greentable.info Created On:13-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
casino-grtable.info Created On:13-Jul-2006 Affiliate ID: hm44bu
all of the domains download the software from casincasa.info
same setup like the Vegas red Spam wave, all on one server, same template...
probably the same spammer...
seems to me they target with the .info domains the german market, emails are the same ones like for egas red, but in german...
did you get some in english for green table?
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| Posted by: winbig at July 23, 2006, 11:31 am | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Tried to feed me more BS, but at least they replied.
Quote:
On 7/23/06, Support | Casino Partners < support@casinopartners.com> wrote:
Thanks for your complaint. Those spammers should have stopped sending traffic
by now. If you still receive something promoting our brands please forward it
to me.
regards
Needless to say, I'll believe it when I see it. I think I'll just setup a filter for every email that has $888 in it to be forwarded to CP.
edit: I also let them know that we know their accounts aren't shutdown, or they wouldn't be registering new domains every single day as well as using the same affiliate ID's.
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| Posted by: winbig at July 22, 2006, 11:51 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
In my opinion, CP is making a fortune off of these spammers and are turning a blind eye to it, along with blowing smoke up our ass saying they've cancelled the affiliate accounts.
If the IP's from the spam headers weren't located all over the world, one would be inclined to think CP is behind this whole thing...unless of course they're using open proxies to connect to, and send this spam through insecure mail servers of course....
[edit]Just read the one at CAP...interesting:
Quote:
I have catch-all email addresses, so I get one for each 'user' they configure for whatever auto-craptastic software they are using.
Here are examples: administrator, webmaster, sales, info, test, root, advertising, postmaster, support, service, mail, guest, accounts,home
I wonder when large businesses are going to get fed up with this and bring a civil suit against CP for allowing this to continue...ie: Wasted bw, etc. It's been done before. AOL s. Cyber Entertainment... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Andreas at July 22, 2006, 11:41 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
This one is really getting out of hand... I'm on this spammer for quite some time now, doing my research and stuff, doing posts on GPWA and CAP and on my own sites...
I just post here the post I just did on CAP, maybe I'm just to lazy to write this again, maybe I've spent to much time time on this issue in the past few days...
There are several threads going on all over the gambling boards and also several spamfighter boards about this hi roller spam wave for Vegas Red...
So maybe this will give you some more insight on this issue...
Here are the links to the threads
GPWA: http://gpwa.net/forum/showthread.php?t=167057
CAP: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?t=13052
GamblingGuards: http://gamblingguards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113
What the F... is going on at Casino Partners?
Quote:
Here is another one I just received!!
same setup, again one of the affiliate ID's used in the mailings over the las... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: winbig at July 22, 2006, 3:40 am | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Bryan, is there an update regarding this situation? I can tell you for a fact that they're adding new names to their spam list. They just sent an email to my other gmail account that was previously free of this Vegas Red spam.
To me, this definately erifies that the affiliate account(s) is(are) still open.
Quote:
X-Gmail-Received: f801b18291545d71d11efd33b49343f441a3b92e
Delivered-To: xxxxx@gmail.com
Received: by 10.78.186.8 with SMTP id j8cs17642huf;
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.54.113.19 with SMTP id l19mr1396724wrc;
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <Grunion77@hushmail.com>
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by mx.gmail.com with SMTP id g2si2723956wra.2006.07.21.17.58.21;
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
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| Posted by: winbig at July 20, 2006, 9:06 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by dominique
I got one too, but they are likely in queue to be sent and it should stop soon.
They should be finished by now, but aren't. I worked at an ISP, and when we'd get hit by spammers relaying through a server (this was before spam was such a major issue that it is now), it'd process about 2,000/hr minimum.
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| Posted by: ergopro at July 20, 2006, 2:15 pm | | Topic: Hi Roller Casino - Vegas Red - spammy deceptive affiliate? Forum: Casino Meister |
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