| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 6:02 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
Whatever dude. The quote you put in your message was from a MONTH PRIOR. Get over it.
"dude" ???
Isnt John Wayne dead?
Or is that your favourite slot?
lol
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| Posted by: winbig at January 21, 2007, 6:00 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Whatever dude. The quote you put in your message was from a MONTH PRIOR. Get over it.
I suggest to whoever is tired of hearing his shit to do the same. I'll even save you a few clicks: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...=ignore&u=7422
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| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 5:59 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
I don't think anybody but you and Pina (only you now) are concerned about this subject at all, let alone the facts. It got old a long time ago, and only got brought up again with you replying to a month old post.
INCORRECT
Once again ... look at the post preceeding mine ... now look at the top of it ... see a number and a word??
That is called a date? its a number and a word .. so 14 and january means ... well, 14 January ...
so, go have a look ...
... if you are still confused ask one of the elite posters to help you understand what is going on ..
... there again maybe dont .. ask someone independent
Thanks again for the thanks for the support I am getting from non "elite posters"
"Only they believe that anyone actually gives a toss what they think" is ery true.
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| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 5:55 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by inylweatherman
I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please?
I seem unable to find the quote from Pinababy referenced by HenryVIII in an earlier post
"Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank."
Are you able to cross the road alone or do you need an adult at all times?
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| Posted by: winbig at January 21, 2007, 5:53 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by henryVIII
But, sure, the usual "elite poster" happy-clappys are limping in now ... avoiding the facts but getting personal.
Heck, even tennis balls is trying to articulate something or other now. Didnt read all his post but this is the man who recommends playing slots after all!!
lol ... that the calibre of the "elite posters".
I don't think anybody but you and Pina (only you now) are concerned about this subject at all, let alone the facts. It got old a long time ago, and only got brought up again with you replying to a month old post.
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| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 5:47 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinababy69
There is no website VWM, not for a long time now. There are no affiliate payments anymore (the last one was a whopping $50, and that was months ago). And each and every one of the "quotes" that Henry posted as being posted by me, were indeed doctored. And I haven't been an affiliate of 32Red for 8-10 months.
And Winbig, you're right.
Incorrect.
The only "doctored" quotes were CLEARLY labelled as such. Only a complete "moron" could misundestand that. As a clue I even stated each time that I had "doctored" them.
BIG CLUE HERE :
"Just ammended your post ..."
"Just clarified your post ..."
BIG CLUE NUMBER TWO :
The above comments are clearly stating I have "ammended" the posts for effect
BIG CLUE NUMBER THREE :
Its freaking obvious !!!!
BIG CLUE NUMBER FOUR :
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| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 21, 2007, 5:14 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by inylweatherman
I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please?
I seem unable to find the quote from Pinababy referenced by HenryVIII in an earlier post
"Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank."
although Henry will still have to apologise to the forum if it is found that some of the quotes have been doctored for dramatic effect.
There is no website VWM, not for a long time now. There are no affiliate payments anymore (the last one was a whopping $50, and that was months ago). And each and every one of the "quotes" that Henry posted as being posted by me, were indeed doctored. And I haven't been an affiliate of 32Red for 8-10 months.
And Winbig, you're right.
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at January 21, 2007, 4:50 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
I have spent nearly an hour looking for Pinababys affiliate website. Could someone tell me where it is please?
I seem unable to find the quote from Pinababy referenced by HenryVIII in an earlier post
"Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank."
I would like to read this in context of the material under discussion, the second charges of 2x£1 that appeared alongside, and seem related to, deposits recently made to 32Red casino.
I have often had this problem with Neteller, with Neteller blaming the casino, and the casino blaming Neteller. The truth was a long time coming, but in the end turned out to be a bit of both, as well as poor communications within the respective organisations.
If there is an online statement facility, it may be possible to interrogate more deeply the statement information for Merchant and country codes relating to these charges. These do ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: winbig at January 21, 2007, 4:42 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by henryVIII
There is a reason pinababy goes quiet ... and its not because she is a "fun loving gal" believe me ..
Or maybe she's just being grownup now and ignoring you?
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| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 4:01 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by ickie40
HenryVIII,
You really need to lose the attitude..There are plenty of people who come here for information and your comments are nothing but rude.
Hmmm ...
... lets get this straight ..
... you think "go fuck yourself" is not rude
.. but factually accurate comments are rude ...
hmm..
you want information ...
... but you prefer affiliates to give it to you??
Anyone else smell bullshit here??? I thought so.
But, yes, please, elaborate on your comments... bet you cant ... just like pinababy couldnt
Heres the links :
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...hlight=harbour
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...appointed.html
Now, dont you look silly????
There is a reason pinababy goes quiet ... and its not because she is a "fun loving gal" believe me ..
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| Posted by: vickie40 at January 21, 2007, 3:45 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by henryVIII
Just clarified your post for non-affiliate readers.
You havent told anyone they are "a moron", "what the fuck is your problem", "this is the worst post ever" or "go fuck yourself", etc etc yet.
That is pinanbabys usual response to any criticism of any of her affiliates.
Banks are so untrustworthy ... if only they had the legal safeguards all your affiliated casinos have, eh?
Bloody banks ... they should be as tightly regulated as 32red and the rest of pinababy's affiliated casinos are.
HenryVIII,
You really need to lose the attitude..There are plenty of people who come here for information and your comments are nothing but rude.
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| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 2:05 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Again, just cannot believe one of my affiliated casinos is wrong. It must be your bank.
Just clarified your post for non-affiliate readers.
You havent told anyone they are "a moron", "what the fuck is your problem", "this is the worst post ever" or "go fuck yourself", etc etc yet.
That is pinanbabys usual response to any criticism of any of her affiliates.
Banks are so untrustworthy ... if only they had the legal safeguards all your affiliated casinos have, eh?
Bloody banks ... they should be as tightly regulated as 32red and the rest of pinababy's affiliated casinos are.
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| Posted by: casplayer at January 21, 2007, 1:36 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by zoloth
That is possible but then I would think that 32red would have told me of this instead of blaming my bank for almost a month.
perhaps they did not take this into consideration as it has never happened before..
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| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 21, 2007, 1:24 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Well, if you ever get a definitive answer to this, could you come back and post? If charges start popping up on your card when you deposit at other casinos with it, then I'd say you'll know for sure your bank is feeding you a line. If it never happens again, I really don't know what to think.
Have you ever used this particular card at any other casino? Again, just curiousity.
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| Posted by: zoloth at January 21, 2007, 1:17 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinababy69
Zoloth, could they be a erification charge as casplayer suggested?
That is possible but then I would think that 32red would have told me of this instead of blaming my bank for almost a month.
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| Posted by: casplayer at January 21, 2007, 12:49 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by inylweatherman
I have used cards in the past at 32Red, which included having to enter the CCV number. At no time was a certain amount "reserved", neither is this necessary where the transaction is authorised on the spot by eBanking websites, as the transaction itself will be alidation enough - if there is no money on the card, the Microgaming cashier will reject the transaction and ask you to contact support.
I think you got me wrong.
The amount is not 'reserved' when you actually make a deposit, instead this meassure is used by some casinos when you REGISTER your card details (to erify the card actually exists, i.e. to prevent the unlikely case that you mistyped AND the card checksum is alid)
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at January 21, 2007, 12:24 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
I have used cards in the past at 32Red, which included having to enter the CCV number. At no time was a certain amount "reserved", neither is this necessary where the transaction is authorised on the spot by eBanking websites, as the transaction itself will be alidation enough - if there is no money on the card, the Microgaming cashier will reject the transaction and ask you to contact support. I have had a couple of card transactions suffer this, and it has been the case that when the card company declines the transaction, or the card has insufficient funds, the casino will not process the deposit.
This charge must originate from the banks, and it MAY be that when they were contacted to erify the card, they realised that all along 32Red was a casino! - They may have thought it to be some kind of internet retail store with a trendy name
32Red is among the few that do not have the word "casino", in it's name, nor even any reference to gambling, such as "something" ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: winbig at January 21, 2007, 12:22 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by henryVIII
Hmmm ...
... again pinababy is incredulous about a complaint against 32red.
See
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...appointed.html
for pretty much the same.
Yawn.
Enough of this bullshit. Quit it already. If you want to fight with someone, do it in private. Quit turning the forum into your boxing ring.
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| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 21, 2007, 12:22 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by casplayer
are you sure these amounts have REALLY been deducted from your credit card balance?
As far as I know there are 2 ways of 'charging' a credit card.
1.) directly deduct the money from the card
2.) inquiry on a certain amount which is reserved on the card (i.e. when you want to pump gas and you first have to put in your Visa, 80$ is reserved to alidate that there is actually money on your account. the real amount is later deducted from your balance)
this is also the way some casinos erify that your card details are correct(the ones where you also have to enter the CVV upon card registration)
to alidate that your details are entered correctly they 'reserve' a small amount from 1-20$ on your card and will actually not debit it.
this may have happened to you as you told that this happened when you were asked for card details...so has the money actually been deducted, or just been 'requested' and may be ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: henryVIII at January 21, 2007, 12:17 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinababy69
I would almost guarantee that 32Red is NOT responsible for this charge.
I agree t_b, I think the thread title is a bit out there. I understand the OP wants an answer, but they stole $2? It's almost comical.
Hmmm ...
... again pinababy is incredulous about a complaint against 32red.
See
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...appointed.html
for pretty much the same.
Yawn.
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| Posted by: casplayer at January 21, 2007, 12:06 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinababy69
That is strange Zoloth. That's why I thought maybe it was something new your bank had introduced. I'm really at a loss then.
If it weren't for the phone charges, I would tell you to get onto your bank and insist they find and erify what these charges are, and where they initiated from.
are you sure these amounts have REALLY been deducted from your credit card balance?
As far as I know there are 2 ways of 'charging' a credit card.
1.) directly deduct the money from the card
2.) inquiry on a certain amount which is reserved on the card (i.e. when you want to pump gas and you first have to put in your Visa, 80$ is reserved to alidate that there is actually money on your account. the real amount is later deducted from your balance)
this is also the way some casinos erify that your card details are correct(the ones where you also have to enter the CVV upon card registration)
to alidate that your deta... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 20, 2007, 11:08 pm | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by zoloth
Not lies.
Pinababy69
Whats strange is that this fee has only been charged twice , but I've deposited several times at 32red.com. They only occured after 32red told me they would contact my their bank to erify my card.
That is strange Zoloth. That's why I thought maybe it was something new your bank had introduced. I'm really at a loss then.
If it weren't for the phone charges, I would tell you to get onto your bank and insist they find and erify what these charges are, and where they initiated from.
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| Posted by: zoloth at January 20, 2007, 10:53 pm | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by tim5ny
I only own a cellphone and I have been forced to call my bank several times
thus spending close to $50 in telephone charges .
Lies! Lies! Lies!
Not lies.
Pinababy69
Whats strange is that this fee has only been charged twice , but I've deposited several times at 32red.com. They only occured after 32red told me they would contact my their bank to erify my card.
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| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 19, 2007, 4:13 pm | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Hi Zoloth, I'm just curious if your statement looks anything like this?
This first charge was a straight $20 deposit into 32Red, no currency conversion, but as you can see there is still a $1.04 foreign transaction fee.
12/30/2006 Fee - Foreign Transaction Fee $-1.04
12/30/2006 Settled Authorization - TRAFALGAR BETTING AND\\GIBRALTAR\00000 TRAFALGAR BETTING AND GIBRALTAR GIB $-20.00
The second one shows a $20 deposit I made in US dollars (currency conversion added into main charge totalling $23.28), but again a separate foreign transaction fee.
12/28/2006 Fee - Foreign Transaction Fee $-1.13
12/28/2006 Settled Authorization - raynorsa.com\UNKNOWN\Luxembourg\ raynorsa.com 0000000000000 LUX $-23.28
I'd really be willing to bet that those $1 charges that have appeared on your statement are indeed from your bank/CC company, despite what they say. Perhaps it is something new they've implemented, but whomever you've spoken to isn't a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 19, 2007, 3:13 pm | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
I'd like to know how it was resolved as well, for future reference if nothing else. You know, say six months from now the same problem pops up for someone else, we can use this thread for reference.
If 32Red was responsible for the charges, I'm positive they made it right by you. If it was your bank, I would hope they have done the same, and reimbursed you for phone calls, etc.
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at January 19, 2007, 2:55 pm | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by zoloth
A few weeks ago I noticed 2 charges of £1 on my CC , I called my bank and they cancelled the charges on my account , I had only used the card at 32red.com. and my bank told me that 32red.com made the charges.
I only own a cellphone and I have been forced to call my bank several times
thus spending close to $50 in telephone charges , not to mention the time I've spent speaking to both 32red and my bank.
Spending $50 to chase £2 seems somewhat excessive, but I am glad the issue has been resolved.
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| Posted by: Pinababy69 at January 19, 2007, 4:47 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by zoloth
I have explained this to 32red , And ofcourse my bank charges a fee for the exchange of currency , however this fee is included in the charge , it does not appear as a seperate fee.
Hi Zoloth, there is no exchange of currency on my account. My casino account is in Canadian dollars, and so is my Mastercard. It gets billed in Canadian dollars. There is NO currency conversion involved, yet I still get billed a separate charge as a foreign transaction fee, as the company I am dealing with (32Red or whichever casino) is NOT in Canada.
If I deposit say $20 at a casino where my acct is in US dollars, it shows on my statement as (eg.) $22.50, PLUS 1.25% of the $20 (and this part shows as a separate charge, named Foreign Transaction Fee). The currency conversion is added in to the one amount, but the foreign transaction fee is separate.
Edited to add: In any event, I'm sure Pat will be in the office in about 4-5 hours and I'd say ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: zoloth at January 19, 2007, 4:37 am | | Topic: 32red.com stole £2 and blaims my bank Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Pinababy69
I also use a CC to deposit at 32Red. My casino account is in Canadian dollars, and so is my Mastercard. However, I still get charged $1 plus 1.25% of the transaction amount, for each and every transaction. And it does get billed separately. My statement will show a deposit of $30, and a foreign transaction fee of $1.38 ($1 plus an additional .38). Even though there is no currency conversion involved, I still get charged this, because the company they are transacting with is not in Canada. I have bought things on the internet from companies based in Canada, and there is no fee.
I would almost guarantee that 32Red is NOT responsible for this charge. Regardless of which internet casino I deposit at, the foreign transaction fees are the same, so it's not unique to 32Red. It's not the casinos, it is the banks/CC companies. As VWM suggested, I'd guess that whoever you spoke to at your bank does not know what they are talking about. Perhaps this i... | | Read Entire Entry |
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