| Posted by: SlotsWizard at October 6, 2006, 1:45 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
Making false claims are grounds for banishment or drawn and quartering.
Let's take bets on which limb will be the first to pop out of its socket from the D&Q main event.
Left arm or right arm ......... pays 1:1
Left leg or right leg ........... pays 3:2
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at October 4, 2006, 8:16 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by kasinokrumbs
I have a similar problem with egas poker casino who has locked my account after I won some money playing their slots...
This sounds like a common problem and this group of casinos is going broke...
Stay away!
Not another "one hit wonder"? Make a scathing remark, then split. How about you have 48 hrs to PAB or be banned for player/forum fraud. I don't mean to be a hard ass, but I'm tired of players abusing this forum.
Read the damn posting rules please.
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/forum_rules.php
2. Posting Complaints
2.1 - Complaints against casinos or pokerrooms will only be posted in the "Online Casino and Poker Complaints" forum.
2.2 - Do not post a complaint without notifying the appropriate casino representative by either PM or email. The casino representatives are listed here.
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at October 4, 2006, 8:07 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Sorry, but they have you pegged as a fraudster - it's not your style of play, but they have evidence of fraud. You are connected to a group of UK fraudsters - simple as that. You received your deposit back - what more do you want?
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| Posted by: mamgamb at October 2, 2006, 12:15 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I guess this is my last update, eventually have my last deposit back. They've made a rather ague excuse of not liking my playing style, but not revealed any more. Casinomeister said in another thread that he reached a stalemate after my pitch a bitch and couldnt get anywhere with them apart from the playing style comment.
I also filed an ecogra complaint, but that has been quiet, does anyone have tex rees email please, I lost it, but would like to try one last query with him before i totally give up on these scum bags and my money.
Also a question to casinomeister, are you happy to keep guys in the accredited casinos section despite refusing to pay me my winning without any fraud accusations and just a ague accusation of playing style?
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| Posted by: chuchu59 at September 22, 2006, 3:53 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by SlotsJunkie
Did anyone else pick up on this? (NOTE: emphasis added)
and shortly thereafter:
I am a gamer by heart, played games all my life but never more than once a month. So when bonuses come along that look profitable and make a site look attractive its my inclination to jump on them. Alas and alack, these offers have been far and between so I only took half a dozen of these in the past few years. See, I told you I was an infrequent gambler and in fact I consider this as a pseudo hobby.
Slotjunkie, that explains it, right. No contradictions but racked my brains conjuring this up.
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| Posted by: kasinokrumbs at September 21, 2006, 7:50 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I have a similar problem with egas poker casino who has locked my account after I won some money playing their slots...
This sounds like a common problem and this group of casinos is going broke...
Stay away!
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at September 21, 2006, 3:24 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Did anyone else pick up on this? (NOTE: emphasis added)
Quote: Originally Posted by wootchris
I'm a gamer by heart, played games all my life and so when some bonuses come along that look profitable and make a site look attractive it's my inclination to jump on them. I'd consider this a pseudo-hobby.
and shortly thereafter:
Quote: Originally Posted by wootchris
I'm a pretty infrequent gambler.
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| Posted by: mamgamb at September 18, 2006, 2:48 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Just posting as it's well over a week since I pitched and I still have not heard anything from Brian. I think I'm supposed to post a reminder.
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| Posted by: happygobrokey at September 16, 2006, 8:50 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
guffaw
cm you're dope! i love it when you get snippy with blithering eejits, like ann robinson on the weakest link show.
"hi i'm just using cm's site but i don't want his help nor could i be bothered to ask for it, i'm just taking the high road like jesus and accepting the punishment given me by the casino and consider it my duty to warn everyone on cm's board, but i don't, repeat, DON'T want anyone especially bryan to intervene. got that? just leave it down to these casino guys are thieving creeps. so it has been said, good day"
bryan HAS direct connections to many if not all casinos, especially ones he accredits (d'uh). not only that, he also has more power than the op and far more knowledge on casino policy than a sporadic gambler as the op claims to be. bryan would actually weigh in on the dispute impartially and give your claim more credibility than just "trust me they steal." bryan should ban this poster for defaming him in his own forum!
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| Posted by: wootchris at September 16, 2006, 7:56 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
Some attitude from some guy using this forum and expecting me to help him get some answers.
Umm...it's linked on every page and in my signature, and in the "Must Read" post concerning posting complaints. Instead of critiquing the navigation of the site, how about growing a set of eyeballs; read and follow instructions.
Then why should I be interested in helping you out? Besides, the PABs give me the information I need in order to deal with your complaint, like your real name and account number. But I understand why you may be reluctant in giving this to me.
Like I said, they have you pegged with a gang of outlaw players. You are a fraudster in their eyes.
I'm still trying to get answers on this. You have to believe me that sometimes these things take time. As for now, I have their explanation, but in order for me to take any stance I need information.
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at September 12, 2006, 8:42 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by wootchris
Pfft..
Some attitude from some guy using this forum and expecting me to help him get some answers.
Quote: Originally Posted by wootchris
I didn't pitch a bitch because finding that link isn't the most intuitive thing in the world when navigating your site. Posting a complaint, is....
Umm...it's linked on every page and in my signature, and in the "Must Read" post concerning posting complaints. Instead of critiquing the navigation of the site, how about growing a set of eyeballs; read and follow instructions.
Quote: Originally Posted by wootchris
I also see now that pitching a bitch requires subscribing to your newsletter. Something I'm not interested in since other than a couple mathematical experiments re: bonuses I ran on casinos a couple of months ago that was more curiosity than anything else, I'm a pretty infrequent gambler. ....
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at September 12, 2006, 6:47 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Some of the mails point not to fraud, but to being too good with the bonuses, "abusing the generosity", does that mean "having the cheek to actually win too often with your reload bonus".
Since when does forefiture of deposit come with a minor offense of depositing in Euros, which are similar in alue to dollars, and this player was Australian, part of the old British Commonwealth, NOT the extended USA, so why not use Euros if the only other option is the US Dollar (UK Pounds do actually confer a significant advantage with respect to bonuses).
If this is going beyond fraud, and onto players simply winning too much after being offered a promotion, it's time to make more space on my PC.
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| Posted by: freezer at September 10, 2006, 2:03 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by wootchris
I also see now that pitching a bitch requires subscribing to your newsletter. Something I'm not interested in
It's an email newsletter and it's free to subscribe.
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| Posted by: pangloss at September 6, 2006, 1:11 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I deposited in EUROs by mistake with this crowd and got my account locked without a word of explanation.
On enquiry a few days later I get advice that EUROs not allowed and I will get my money back "shortly".
Two weeks sail by still no money. More emails to Casino which finally produce a begrudging communication that the original advice of return of deposit funds was WRONG - T+Cs require forfeiture - but since I had been initially advised otherwise my deposit money would be returned.
Now I did get my money back - but frankly if this mob are on the accredited list then God help anyone playing the non-accredited casinos.
And lastly, a colleague of mine twice took Casinos (in the most recent past) from this group to eGOGRA with the exact same complaint of non-compliance with published bonus T+Cs and succeeded on both occassions. Last I heard he had lodged a third Casino (and identical) complaint with eCOGRA the fate of which I presume is predictable.
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| Posted by: winbig at August 31, 2006, 3:51 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by mamgamb
HAHA this group are getting laughable now, email below from floridita casino.
Any comment form the rep as to why this thieving group wont pay winnings but "management " (lol) have decided that I'm chosen from 1000s of players to get a promotion.
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Enjoy your Free $15 plus up to $100 extra!
Every once in a while Floridita Club Casino decides to honour its greatest players
with special presents. The Management is delighted to tell you that you have
been chosen from thousands of gamers to receive this exclusive offer.
As a mark of our gratitude, we want to inform you that we have
credited your account with a free $15 gift. In addition, we are also offering you
a magnificent 100% match bonus up to $100 on your first single deposit
between Wednesday the 30th of August and Friday the 8th of September (GMT)!!
Simply send an email to promotion@floridi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mamgamb at August 31, 2006, 2:59 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
HAHA this group are getting laughable now, email below from floridita casino.
Any comment form the rep as to why this thieving group wont pay winnings but "management " (lol) have decided that I'm chosen from 1000s of players to get a promotion.
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Enjoy your Free $15 plus up to $100 extra!
Every once in a while Floridita Club Casino decides to honour its greatest players
with special presents. The Management is delighted to tell you that you have
been chosen from thousands of gamers to receive this exclusive offer.
As a mark of our gratitude, we want to inform you that we have
credited your account with a free $15 gift. In addition, we are also offering you
a magnificent 100% match bonus up to $100 on your first single deposit
between Wednesday the 30th of August and Friday the 8th of September (GMT)!!
Simply send an email to promotion@floriditaclubcasino.com with
"100% Special Promot... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BBKPoker at August 30, 2006, 9:00 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I don't think it's that correlated for relatively new registers to post complaint threads, although I can see why CM would think it links to player fraud, I'm sure there are some people who do that. In my case, I read Casinomeister for something like a year before I registered, and the only reason I registered was because I was having a cashout problem with a casino and wanted to pm a rep, so perhaps there are lots of "lurkers" who are actually long term CM-readers but just choose not to bother with registering until later on.
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| Posted by: wootchris at August 30, 2006, 1:40 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
Unfortunately, this is a problem - when massive fraud occurs, legitimate players might fall into the mess. The size of the fraud will affect the reaction time of customer service and reports from investigation teams. From what I understand, they are being as diligent as possible. I'm not going into detail unless I get the heads up from the casino to do so.
For the record, I've received 47 PABs this month so far. Only one was for a casino in this group - and he never posted his problem.
So none of the posters who have their winnings "confiscated" bothered to PAB. I see that a couple of the members had their problems overturned and their accounts were reopened. My question to the following members:
Messi_18
wootchris
mamgamb
felix
brianrowden
Instead of merely posting in the forum, why didn't you submit a formal complaint ia PAB? Some of you were even coaxed to do so by other... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mamgamb at August 29, 2006, 3:55 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I#m currentlz abroad and hence am not able to check mz neteller to see if I have been paid the deposits back. One I return I will PAB if they have not. From reading the Giant egas thread I understand I have no appeal against the FU term, and will just have to warn other players not to win here. Out of interest I think I blew a couple of reloads at the same time at other casinos, and there has been no offer to refund deposits at those, crooked bastards.
Isn't it lovelz to get kind regards when you're robbed of a few hundred pounds
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Dear Susan,
After extensive analysis of your xxx account, it appears that
you have on a number of occasions taken advantage of the goodwill of the
Vegas Joker
As a result, the Vegas Poker Casino felt that it had no other option but
to lock your account and deny your respective winnings.
These decisions were taken only as a last resort and were enacted in
adherence to the Vegas Poker Casino terms and cond... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Trezz at August 28, 2006, 12:23 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
At an educated guess the number of PAB's p/m (non fraud), is only a drop compared to all the legit players who get stiffed on a monthly basis.
This is not a dig at anyone btw.
Fortunately players these days are more www sa y, hence finding places like CM's and the PAB mediation and others within the forums willing to help is on the increase.
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at August 28, 2006, 11:07 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by inylweatherman
...However, what about the bigger picture. With the nature of these frauds, the investigations, and the need to prevent the details of how to repeat the fraud being leaked out - the genuine player is being royally scared off from the industry. It is impossible to deposit and play and guarantee not to get entangled, as the fraudsters are actually trying to look like genuine players in the first place...
Unfortunately, this is a problem - when massive fraud occurs, legitimate players might fall into the mess. The size of the fraud will affect the reaction time of customer service and reports from investigation teams. From what I understand, they are being as diligent as possible. I'm not going into detail unless I get the heads up from the casino to do so.
For the record, I've received 47 PABs this month so far. Only one was for a casino in this group - and he never posted his problem.
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at August 26, 2006, 10:05 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
This looks so much like the BelleRock case a while back. An organised fraud, so full details were never disclosed, a few innocents got caught up, and were not cleared quickly enough to keep confidence in the group up. Eventually, a number of the posters certainly seemed to have been "busted" for trying it on, and seemed to outnumber the small number of innocents caught up.
However, what about the bigger picture. With the nature of these frauds, the investigations, and the need to prevent the details of how to repeat the fraud being leaked out - the genuine player is being royally scared off from the industry. It is impossible to deposit and play and guarantee not to get entangled, as the fraudsters are actually trying to look like genuine players in the first place.
Despite what the outcome, mistakes ARE made and a few innocents are never paid along with many of the fraudsters. The fraudsters treat this as an "occupational hazard" and try their best to find out how th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: cipher at August 25, 2006, 6:49 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
Actually, this issue has already been dealt with. I'm not able to discuss details yet, but when I can I will.
Please note a lot of first time posters in this thread, some of whom haven't returned.
It's another fraud issue. Tiresome, ain't it??
It really can be at times. Do you know if this wager7.com is part of this Vegas7 group? I just got some more stuff from them out of Ft Lauderdale, Florida.
Shades of Bet on Sports.
Have a good one.
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at August 25, 2006, 5:46 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Actually, this issue has already been dealt with. I'm not able to discuss details yet, but when I can I will.
Please note a lot of first time posters in this thread, some of whom haven't returned.
It's another fraud issue. Tiresome, ain't it??
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| Posted by: cipher at August 25, 2006, 5:35 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Messi_18
I have been quiet since I wrote about my instance some weeks ago. I had written to the casino several times and never received a response. This week I received a pm from the rep saying I would be contacted soon by the casino. Today the casino wrote that my case was final, they would not send my winnings, and they would not discuss the matter further.
In this thread Ive read the rep write about connections and people depositing and playing in the same styles. I dont see how this can have anything to do with me. How many online casino players come from Argentina anyway? The only thing anyone I know does is PartyPoker, and only 3 people I know from the casino here.
Still, it is in the casino terms that they can take away a bonus for any reason. I should have read before I played here. But I think it is nothing but robbery for them to take away and keep the money I won before they put a bonus in my account. I deposited my own money a... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Messi_18 at August 25, 2006, 5:27 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I have been quiet since I wrote about my instance some weeks ago. I had written to the casino several times and never received a response. This week I received a pm from the rep saying I would be contacted soon by the casino. Today the casino wrote that my case was final, they would not send my winnings, and they would not discuss the matter further.
In this thread Ive read the rep write about connections and people depositing and playing in the same styles. I dont see how this can have anything to do with me. How many online casino players come from Argentina anyway? The only thing anyone I know does is PartyPoker, and only 3 people I know from the casino here.
Still, it is in the casino terms that they can take away a bonus for any reason. I should have read before I played here. But I think it is nothing but robbery for them to take away and keep the money I won before they put a bonus in my account. I deposited my own money and played and risked with it and I won $450 before th... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: chuchu59 at August 23, 2006, 8:06 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
The response may suck, but for that moment, that was all that he could say. There is a large scale investigation going on which involves a number of people. Vegas VIP Lounge is the spokeman - he's not the one who's doing the investigation. There should be a statement coming soon.
Thanks Bryan. If a full-scale investigation is being carried out, the e-mail(not the one from Vegas VIP Lounge but the one Mamgamb attached) sucks even more. It implied that the audit had already been conducted and that the player breached their terms without telling him what they were. They then locked his account, oided his winnings and are returning his deposit as if it were a foregone conclusion. It seemed that this was a personal issue but if this is a large scale investigation involving others let the player know and tell him that until all findings have been concluded, his account will remain locked and winnings temporarily withheld.
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at August 23, 2006, 7:39 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by chuchu59
Vegas VIP Lounge,
The casino's e-mail to Mamgamb sucks. You cant simply claim that the player breached the terms and conditions without offering any explanations. As for bonus abusing, your terms are set out for everybody to see so if you feel that a player is abusing the bonus you can prevent him from being offered further bonuses or even cancel his account but winnings before this course of action is taken must be honoured. If it were related to fraud, it would have been an entirely different matter...
The response may suck, but for that moment, that was all that he could say. There is a large scale investigation going on which involves a number of people. Vegas VIP Lounge is the spokeman - he's not the one who's doing the investigation. There should be a statement coming soon.
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| Posted by: chuchu59 at August 23, 2006, 4:15 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by mamgamb
So after it's a week since I posted here and emailed eprocessing and I have been told nothing about what's going on.
I don't know what my supposed fragrant breach is.
I don't know why my deposits have not been paid back despite claims to the contrary.
I dont know why I was offered a reload bonus in the 1st place.
I dont know when, if there Vegas Affiliates / Eproccessing intend to give me any indications as to the answers to the my problems with them.
I hope someone else is getting somewhere with this "accredited casino"
Vegas VIP Lounge,
The casino's e-mail to Mamgamb sucks. You cant simply claim that the player breached the terms and conditions without offering any explanations. As for bonus abusing, your terms are set out for everybody to see so if you feel that a player is abusing the bonus you can prevent him from being offered further bonuses or even cancel his account but winnin... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: thechap at August 22, 2006, 11:47 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
i think you guys should pitch a bitch, especially those who have no deposit back despite an email promising it.
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| Posted by: wootchris at August 22, 2006, 8:34 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
More than a month now. No PM from the rep since three weeks ago when I was told the same "ongoing investigation" line. No explanation of what exactly I did that was such a "flagrant breach" of the holy, loved, spirited consortium of bonus gods that they consult prior to locking accounts.
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| Posted by: mamgamb at August 22, 2006, 11:25 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by felix
I've heard absolutely nothing from anyone about my withheld winnings.
Glad it's just not me who seems to be getting ignored, whenever I've posted a whine I been told things are being looked at, but as soon as it's quiet from my end silence from egas affiliates.
Current Status
July winning on account specific promotion on 3 accounts still not paid.
No explanation as to what I've done wrong
No refund of winnings despite email concerning 2 accounts stating this would be done on 4th August.
I'll be on a week long break soon, if there is no resolution by then ecogra and pitch a bitch time.
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| Posted by: mamgamb at August 21, 2006, 3:44 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote:
Dear xxx, We are writing regarding your casino account (xxx) at Vegas Poker Casino. Our risk management department has audited your account following your withdrawal and has found it in flagrant breach of our terms and conditions, with a clear intention of abusing our promotions. As a result your account has been permanently disabled and any winnings oided. However, we would like to inform you that we have initiated a full refund of your purchase. Best Regards, Corben L.E-Processing Services www.eprocessingservices.comOn behalf of Vegas Poker Casino
So after it's a week since I posted here and emailed eprocessing and I have been told nothing about what's going on.
I don't know what my supposed fragrant breach is.
I don't know why my deposits have not been paid back despite claims to the contrary.
I dont know why I was offered a reload bonus in the 1st place.
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| Posted by: mamgamb at August 17, 2006, 5:40 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
PM receive - investigation ongoing no real deatils. Thanks for letting me know something is happening though.
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| Posted by: mamgamb at August 17, 2006, 3:41 pm | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
Well Thusfar I've emailed eproccessing and pmed the rep and have had absolutely no contact back about my missing payment. I dont suppose an update about my missing money could come soon?
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| Posted by: VegasVIP Lounge at August 16, 2006, 9:22 am | | Topic: Vegas 7 problem Forum: Casino Meister |
I thank you all for your constructive advice regarding procedures for periods during which I may unavailable. In the future I will ensure that I state more clearly in advance dates when I am away. I will also ensure that there is someone regularly checking my pm inbox and reviewing forum posts.
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