| Posted by: vinylweatherman at November 29, 2006, 12:16 am | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
While using the same card on two accounts is a bad idea, and the experienced online player knows this all too well; in the real world, family and friends will often make purchases for each other on their cards as it can be convenient. If they are new to online casinos, they may not realise that this will get their account flagged as a duplicate. Exactly how casinos determine whether accounts are duplicates is rather ague, they go on about IP and MAC addresses, and registration details and households Vs colleges, but they don't have a list detailing all the possible pitfalls that new players would not believe could be a problem.
I have a friend in Reading (near me), and I will often use my card when we buy things, and he will always settle up with cash. This helps me, I can get cash from my card without paying fees, and I can benefit from the card loyalty rewards on the purchase.
In the case of casinos and two friends starting out, one may find their card not working, and trust each other enoug... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Casinomeister at November 27, 2006, 10:11 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by dvlh1966
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I sent two complaint's to Casinomeister and have heard nothing...
I've just come across this remark - sorry to let it slip by:
This player was contacted by me to submit her complaint to Montana disputes in May. She and her friend had used the same debit card at AmericanGrand casino. Her friend had admitted to this, she was told to contact Montana disputes as well. Guess that was a big mistake, but what recourse did she have?
Montana ruled against her, but I tried to have them review this since I thought - if she was being truthful, it didn't seem fair - it was merely a misunderstanding.
But I guess if you are going to rely on the empathy of these casinos - you may not have your issues resolved in your favor.
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| Posted by: dc9999 at November 23, 2006, 6:44 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
The real problem though, with online gambling, is that the lack of any internationally recognized regulatory board, allows rogue operators to flourish and prosper.
What a sad commentary on the industry, that the Crystal Palace's of the world, have to be "goaded" into paying up rightfully accrued winnings (assuming of course, they pay at all, which is highly unlikelyl!)
Insofar as casino bonus promos go (most notably with RTG sites..), again, the primary intent of many operators is to thoroughly confuse and yet entice the player to make a large deposit.
Of course, when a cashout is requested, then the litany of obscure bonus rules iolations are rolled out, and the player is ulitmately screwed - and winds up on a board like this!
Yes, I agree that "buyer beware" is still ery much part of the deal here....You wager at a disreputable site with a sordid history and you're asking for trouble....STILL.....it's downright shocking - and disgusting -... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: suzecat at November 23, 2006, 5:20 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
It may be time for a serious reality check. First, there are some folks here at CM who would not patronize any of Cloud's casinos for any reason. And there are probably more people every day who learn the same tough lesson the OP has learned. The "CR clip joints" (among others) are in business to make money from you and they will do so any way they can. As far as laws or regulation - forget it, there are none. Now I could go into a tirade about using bonuses (and subjecting your lowly chance of winning to a slight quiver) but that is a player's choice and so enough has been said about it. Maybe sound mental health would be best served by looking at gambling as an expensive hobby. There are indeed "professional gamblers" who make a nice living and they may be one percent of one percent of those who make a nice living for the casinos they frequent.
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| Posted by: gamblegtown at November 22, 2006, 6:04 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
It's been almost a month since my pab and I have corresponded with brian thru email after several days of the pab but had no replied from him or anyone else to my emails since so I figure u guys weren't working on it and i was frustrated.
Quote: Originally Posted by Casinomeister
He already did, and this was submitted to the casino two weeks ago.
Please read the "Must Read" section of this forum - and the forum rules as well:
2.2 - Do not post a complaint without notifying the appropriate casino representative by either PM or email. The casino representatives are listed here.
2.3 - Ensure your complaint is free from offensive or abusive language, and that the complaint is tactful and truthful...
Calling people scam artists and scum won't further your cuase much. If you want to ent - ent. But if you want a casino operator to consider honoring your claim, I would suggest not going public until at least they answer my PAB.
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| Posted by: Casinomeister at November 20, 2006, 11:42 am | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Tester
...I would advice to sumbit a PAB with casinomeister here.
http://www.casinomeister.com/problems.php...
He already did, and this was submitted to the casino two weeks ago.
Please read the "Must Read" section of this forum - and the forum rules as well:
2.2 - Do not post a complaint without notifying the appropriate casino representative by either PM or email. The casino representatives are listed here.
2.3 - Ensure your complaint is free from offensive or abusive language, and that the complaint is tactful and truthful...
Calling people scam artists and scum won't further your cuase much. If you want to ent - ent. But if you want a casino operator to consider honoring your claim, I would suggest not going public until at least they answer my PAB.
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| Posted by: Tester at November 18, 2006, 5:29 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
I know this is extremely embarrasing.
But technically the bonus has rules and one of them was that you cannot claim a bonus with any baalnce in the account.
The only point here is that of "good faith", which is not easy to request strongly.
I would advice to sumbit a PAB with casinomeister here.
http://www.casinomeister.com/problems.php
He may work things out for you.
Since your point with them is of good faith and not of formal obligation from their side, I would advice not to make yourself their enemy.
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at November 17, 2006, 4:42 am | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by gamblegtown
That was not the point I was intending to make. I may have been carried away about making the website stuff in the heat of the moment. I don't care about making a competitor website to this. I don't care about competing with this site. that's not what i meant. I just want to let others know about the dishonesty practice of crystal palace which is my goal now. The website would be soley dedicated to informing other of crystal palace's practices and deter as much people as possible. I'm disappointed by the lack of replies. Since I'm new to online gambling, I 'd like to know if there is any place comparable to better business bureau that i can complain to and also if there is a board that can sanction crystal palace.
I'm afraid trying to make a website against Crystal Palace would make no real difference to Mr Cloud (who runs these sites).
He doesn't seem to give a flying rat's ass what others think of him & his casinos. He se... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: gamblegtown at November 17, 2006, 3:48 am | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
That was not the point I was intending to make. I may have been carried away about making the website stuff in the heat of the moment. I don't care about making a competitor website to this. I don't care about competing with this site. that's not what i meant. I just want to let others know about the dishonesty practice of crystal palace which is my goal now. The website would be soley dedicated to informing other of crystal palace's practices and deter as much people as possible. I'm disappointed by the lack of replies. Since I'm new to online gambling, I 'd like to know if there is any place comparable to better business bureau that i can complain to and also if there is a board that can sanction crystal palace.
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| Posted by: babs7262 at November 16, 2006, 6:38 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
Im afraid to say anything because there would of been posts by now. Okay, Ill dive in and ask this question.(my week cant get much worse)
First: I think if you go through the other casino threads, There is a post about this casino. Sorry your having problems but Im a small roller and kind of new to online gambling. Im here for your other question
I find it odd that you are asking someone from this website that provides accredited as well as rogue casinos to help you build your own site. To me, that is like a Target Manager going to Kmart and getting advise for advertising tactics. So my question is this........Why? I know Im new and don't have much pull in here but find it a bit respectful to ask for this kind of help, paid or not.
I just feel that your starting off in here on the wrong foot and won't get much help if your intentions are to start your own website.
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| Posted by: gamblegtown at November 16, 2006, 3:55 pm | | Topic: Crystal Palace is a scam artists. Something needs to be done Forum: Casino Meister |
Crystal Palace and it's sister sites are not paying up the bigger wins.
They removed 23k winning from my account naiming a bullshit reason.
This was a win from depositing $1,000. I was desperate after losing more than 10k at arious casinos in matter of five hours. I felt so relieved after I won some back only to find out that I am being cheated. I had heard numerous stories circling around of being wins not being paid by this scum casino Crystal Palace and it's 9 other sister companies. (scroll down for list of these 9 others to avoid playing.) They had no problem taking my losses but when I did win they refused. A win like this was ery rare and it is devastating to not be able to claim it especially after having lost money so quick.
To give some history of my situation, the $1000 deposit was my 2nd deposit which I deposit after I lost all my original deposit and bonus few days prior. They removed all my money by saying that I had 70 in the account at the time of the $1000 deposit a... | | Read Entire Entry |
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