| Posted by: frufrugirl at February 7, 2007, 10:09 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Thanks for the warning and glad you got your money back. Hey, someone stole from you and no one deserves that. Ever. Hope you made a full recovery and I hope your lengthy but interesting warning helps others.
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| Posted by: REOdeathwagon at February 6, 2007, 9:59 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
I just wonder....
Aren't Neteller accounts insured by the FDIC? Wouldn't that cover the stolen money?
If so, they're double dipping by not giving you your money back that was stolen from the account.
winbig:
FDIC, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. US Federal Government insurance for each deposit, up to $100,000.00, deposits for American financial institutions. http://www.fdic.gov/index.html This led to the savings and loan debacle / scandal of the early eighties.
The Bush Crime Family was directly profited from this $1.4 TRILLION dollar scandal. The 'Don' George Bush Sr. and his 'Underbosses' George Jr., Neil, and Jeb Bush.
Some info. on the Bush Crime Family involvement in the Savings & Loan Scandal.http://rationalrevolution.net/war/bu..._and_the_s.htm
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http://www.oldamericancentury.org/bu...ime_family.htm
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| Posted by: silcnlayc at February 6, 2007, 3:18 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
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smart enough to win all that money and then leave it ALL in netteler without taking it out? please....
too quick for me ......lips are sealed...
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| Posted by: 1819 at February 6, 2007, 2:39 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by tim5ny
From what he wrote in another thread that Sponge wrote, it sounds like he turned $750.00 into 60k. Why is everyone calling him stupid for thinking he could possibly make some money playing cards online? Sounds like he made alot... and then some.
smart enough to win all that money and then leave it ALL in netteler without taking it out? please....
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| Posted by: tim5ny at February 6, 2007, 5:56 am | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
From what he wrote in another thread that Sponge wrote, it sounds like he turned $750.00 into 60k. Why is everyone calling him stupid for thinking he could possibly make some money playing cards online? Sounds like he made alot... and then some.
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| Posted by: KasinoKing at February 4, 2007, 7:50 am | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by lots0
I been around the gambling business for a ery long time and anytime anyone wants to try to make money gambling they need a good whack of common sense upside their head...
Oh really?
When are you gonna come & whack me then?
(Though I do admit, common sense is one of the main factors in consistent profiteering)
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| Posted by: lots0 at February 2, 2007, 4:43 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
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Read the whole thread before replying to it would be not only smart, it would also give your post's more credibility. Or what I'm trying to say: "Read the whole thread or sh*t up.."
Why waste my time? He/she could have put it all in one sentence, instead of one ery long and hard to read lump of text.
"I was stupid and gave my money to bad guys and Bryan helped me get it back."
I been around the gambling business for a ery long time and anytime anyone wants to try to make money gambling they need a good whack of common sense upside their head...
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| Posted by: reda at February 2, 2007, 3:44 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
i would never leave that much money in neteller but regardless of the amount it doesnt matter. i too have been unpaid by casino and bryan helped me. i did not know of this forum until i did some searching,, i was playing at different casino not knowing if they were reputable or not. im glad i found this site, and bryan ( he got my money for me) . now i only play at the credeited ones listed.
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| Posted by: silcnlayc at February 2, 2007, 3:13 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
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The point is, he probably realizes how dumb that was at this point, and chose to swallow his pride and post this as a warning and help for your benefit.
Yes, this is true, but a paragraph would have done the same job, since he chose to play at a lot of casinos that were rogued.
We are smarter than the average player because we are HERE on the forum and with Bryan's help we keep informed. So, a 10 page warning is a little much, don't you think? I have read 10 page complaints, but never that long of a "warning".
Yes, I am being a butthead, but common sense tells anyone, that this was more of a "complaint", at least to me and if he chose to play at some of these shady places and wants sympathy....which is the way I was reading it...the poor me, I got ripped off thing....the rest is history....
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at February 2, 2007, 12:00 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Reef
QFT .. I guess this notion is why online gambling is such a huge industry
Perhaps it should have read "I tried to make some money playing Blackjack with bonuses"
For a long while this was ery possible, and easily done by rote from a chart. It is within the last couple of years that this became pretty much impossible due to advances in the art of convoluted T & C. Even then, it was possible to use the entire bankroll for a single big bet and beat even those T & C. Probably, this player came upon a "bonus whore" site where these casinos would have been the cream of the crop for bonuses, and their dubious nature would hardly have been mentioned by such a site who would gain affiliate payments from players who tried "the system".
There are still a small number of casinos with easily beatable bonuses, but these are the ones most likely to screw you over after using the bonus as a lure.
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| Posted by: Reef at February 2, 2007, 10:32 am | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by lots0
I did not bother to read any farther than this..."I tried to make some money by playing blackjack"
That was your first and biggest mistake.
QFT .. I guess this notion is why online gambling is such a huge industry
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| Posted by: 1819 at February 1, 2007, 11:38 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Neodata
Read the whole thread before replying to it would be not only smart, it would also give your post's more credibility. Or what I'm trying to say: "Read the whole thread or sh*t up.."
@OP Thanks for your warning, you just remindet me to withdrawl some of my money from neteller
i read the whole thread. my reply was good advice.
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| Posted by: BBKPoker at February 1, 2007, 11:19 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
For all the people who will post ariants of the following:
"WTF were you thinking trying to make money playing blackjack online", please just stop in advance.
You think he hasn't heard this from Bryan, his attorney, firepay, neteller, infinite casino reps, friends, family members, etc already?
The point is, he probably realizes how dumb that was at this point, and chose to swallow his pride and post this as a warning and help for your benefit. Assuming he can back up what he's saying (and I think Bryan can probably speak to the legitimacy of these claims as well) then you should be only thankful he decided to warn you about his experiences.
We've seen a lot of ery sketchy behavior on the part of Oliver Curran and Crystal Palace lately. Unfortunately, it seems like they will employ almost any tactic to get your dollar.
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| Posted by: winbig at February 1, 2007, 10:00 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
I just wonder....
Aren't Neteller accounts insured by the FDIC? Wouldn't that cover the stolen money?
If so, they're double dipping by not giving you your money back that was stolen from the account.
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| Posted by: Neodata at February 1, 2007, 9:34 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by lots0
I did not bother to read any farther than this..."I tried to make some money by playing blackjack"
That was your first and biggest mistake.
What were you gonna do? Count cards in an online blackjack game? And then expect the casinos to payoff?
Here is some advice; If you want to have some fun and have a reasonable chance of winning, play online blackjack....
However, if you want to make money at blackjack... buy a casino.
>>Advice ends
If you want to play Blackjack for Free (just to see if you can really make some money) try this link, Free Blackjack Game.
Quote: Originally Posted by 1819
i can only say that if you wanted to make money and treat it as a job then that would lead me to believe this was important to you. not doing any research and signing up with those casinos leads me to believe it couldnt possibly be important. 3 big mistakes...1 playing... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: winbig at February 1, 2007, 9:18 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by sponge63
Now that the current US government has stopped us from gaming online, needless to say I am no longer involved. But, under the circumstances of what had happened to me, that is actually a good thing.
Be careful.
They can try, but they will never stop USA citizens from gambling online....
Too bad you're from NY. They're the most anal about it, and I think they will soon follow ranks with WA as far as making it a felony to gamble online.
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| Posted by: trips to win at February 1, 2007, 9:05 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
I'm glad you resolved this and got your money! I never had a problem with NETeller but I never kept much in there.
Also, it's no ones affair why,where, or how much you had in your accounts. The gist of the post was to warn other players and I, for one, ery much appreciated it.
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| Posted by: siriuscirrus at February 1, 2007, 9:00 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Sponge, sad story and unfortunately a lot of players are all too familiar with these and other shady tactics. Just one gigantic headache after another.
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| Posted by: silcnlayc at February 1, 2007, 8:07 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
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Since there is no workmen’s compensation with my company, while I was incapacitated I tried to make some money by playing blackjack online.
Not being a smart a**...just trying to figure out how someone disabled, with no income, can leave that kind of money just lying around in so many accounts and not need to use some of it to live on as this was the reason you stated you started playing for?
For a sum like that to be allowed to accumulate to such a large degree without any withdrawals, just doesn't sit right even in my book.
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| Posted by: 1819 at February 1, 2007, 7:38 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
i can only say that if you wanted to make money and treat it as a job then that would lead me to believe this was important to you. not doing any research and signing up with those casinos leads me to believe it couldnt possibly be important. 3 big mistakes...1 playing to make money. 2 no homework done. 3 depositing with those casinos. this is not a flame and i hope it gets resolved for you and,you being a teacher, i hope this might be a good lesson for others.
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| Posted by: lots0 at February 1, 2007, 6:37 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
I did not bother to read any farther than this..."I tried to make some money by playing blackjack"
That was your first and biggest mistake.
What were you gonna do? Count cards in an online blackjack game? And then expect the casinos to payoff?
Here is some advice; If you want to have some fun and have a reasonable chance of winning, play online blackjack....
However, if you want to make money at blackjack... buy a casino.
>>Advice ends
If you want to play Blackjack for Free (just to see if you can really make some money) try this link, Free Blackjack Game.
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at February 1, 2007, 4:53 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Some of these problems would have been less had you not retained such large sums in the accounts, particularly the $61,000 in Firepay. Had you regularly withdrawan the money as it came in, you would have been hit for a lot less when Firepay pulled the plug.
interestingly, I have received far more into Neteller than I have deposited from Neteller, mainly because casinos have many means to deposit, but fewer to withdraw. I am surprised Firepay questioned this, as it should have been a common issue with many of their players who deposited with cards. What was less common perhaps was leaving the money there over 18 months to accumulate to $61K.
The Neteller issue seems ery bad, if Neteller claim you were a ictim, why did they suddenly treat you like they had found you out to be a master criminal.
At least now "Neteller" are finally "Cooperating with your local police dept" against their will - that'll teach them to mess players around. Perhaps if Neteller had been more &qu... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: sponge63 at February 1, 2007, 6:30 am | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
Hello, I am a certified school teacher in the USA . In late 2004, I got injured on the job, and ultimately needed five surgeries over the next 1 ½ years. Since there is no workmen’s compensation with my company, while I was incapacitated I tried to make some money by playing blackjack online. I opened up a Neteller account and began playing at arious casinos.
Some of those casinos used RTG software and were located in Costa Rica . Their names were Cirrus, Club Player, Virtual, Palace of Chance , Bet Royal, and Cool Cat. Despite them giving me written guarantees that I would be paid within one or two weeks time, that never happened. They also asked me to open up a Firepay account so they could pay me a bit faster. I complied with their wishes.
For almost two years, I had to repeatedly contact Montana Review for their non-compliance with regards to paying me on time. Sometimes Montana Review would help, sometimes not.
Despite me doing everything these casinos asked of me, they just would no... | | Read Entire Entry |
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