| Posted by: happygobrokey at August 31, 2007, 5:27 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by fredb
Mainly, I tempted my fate by playing a bandit casino.
The point of my posting here is not about having people tell me I made a good decision or them making me feel good. It's about Betroyal and the fact that they will steal your money if they feel like it.
fair enough. but many other casinos than just them will oid winnings even when they don't properly state whether a game is excluded from play when bonus money is involved or merely if it does not count towards wr. so i am just trying to illustrate that even though the words don't say it right out, that playing such games is hazardous without getting an explicit confirmation first.
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| Posted by: fredb at August 31, 2007, 5:15 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by happygobrokey
and hypothetics aside, i said you tempt your fate, not necessarily that you weren't within the rules.
Mainly, I tempted my fate by playing a bandit casino.
The point of my posting here is not about having people tell me I made a good decision or them making me feel good. It's about Betroyal and the fact that they will steal your money if they feel like it.
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| Posted by: happygobrokey at August 29, 2007, 6:11 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
ok, now you enter a robotics competition at your school. each contestant is given $5k with which to complete the project. they may not dip into their own pockets or beg money from anyone. can you throw the 5k down on a hand of bj and double it, and then build the robot with 10k? how about if you only use the extra 5k to hire consultants (or to pay overnight shipping for cutting edge parts from japan) and it isn't used for actual material costs?
and hypothetics aside, i said you tempt your fate, not necessarily that you weren't within the rules. they do make up the rules and make them ery extensive, and yes they should be more explicit with what they actually want it to mean. the warning on the lawnmower says keep your hands clear of the outlet port and the blades, do you take that to mean that other body parts going there won't present a danger? if in doubt, ask and clarify.
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| Posted by: fredb at August 29, 2007, 5:18 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by happygobrokey
and indeed you tempt your fate by playing disallowed games to stack up a huge balance with the advantage of the bonus money.
It wasn't a disallowed game is my whole point. The rules merely say that roulette doesn't count towards the rollover.
I play games that don't count for rollover all the time at MG casinos (and others too) and they don't use that against me to steal my winnings. In fact, they have every reason to rejoice.
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| Posted by: lojo at August 28, 2007, 12:41 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by spino1i
I would not under any circumstances play at Bet Royal. They will make agreements with you and then not honor them, stating that they reserve the right to break any agreement they want at any time just because. Casinomeister needs to put these guys back on the rogue list (I dont see them there..)
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| Posted by: spino1i at August 28, 2007, 12:26 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
I would not under any circumstances play at Bet Royal. They will make agreements with you and then not honor them, stating that they reserve the right to break any agreement they want at any time just because. Casinomeister needs to put these guys back on the rogue list (I dont see them there..)
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| Posted by: happygobrokey at July 31, 2007, 3:52 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
i played around february-march also, but before pontoon was disallowed from wagering. and apparently when they were in the process of changing their whole staff over to the group under aj. and aj is his real name, they once told me a real-sounding name that it stands for. aj told me he used to work at nine.com. i think "james cash" is just a generic csr alias, so the "same person" always deals with your issues for continuity.
and they were also giving me a hard time about withdrawals, and it took months to get ~2000 in two instalments. i was chasing down and grilling aj and jc weekly, and another guy ronald was instrumental in getting me the code for a wire transfer. and now they call me quite often and leave messages to call me back today for great bonuses. yecchh!
and indeed you tempt your fate by playing disallowed games to stack up a huge balance with the advantage of the bonus money.
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at July 23, 2007, 1:10 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
To uninstall them what you should do is first make sure you aren't running the casino, then go into the installation folder (it's probably C:\Program Files\betroyal or something similar) and select all the files and hold down Shift while you press Delete, then click Yes to the confirmation. Then move up a level (click the folder icon which has the up-arrow in the middle of it) and select only the betroyal folder, and again do Shift-Delete and click Yes.
Now go back to your Add/Remove programs and try to uninstall it; it should tell you that it can't find the uninstaller so would you like to remove the entry from the list of installed programs, and click Yes.
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at July 23, 2007, 12:28 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by fredb
I hadn't read that story about the armed thugs.
I must say they seem to be exactly the kind of people to do such a thing.
Amusingly, my antivirus detects a Trojan Horse in their casino installer.
Are they a Playtech?
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| Posted by: fredb at July 23, 2007, 12:19 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
I hadn't read that story about the armed thugs.
I must say they seem to be exactly the kind of people to do such a thing.
Amusingly, my antivirus detects a Trojan Horse in their casino installer.
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at July 22, 2007, 11:51 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by fredb
Just to make things clear :
I did not create this thread in order to whine or in the hope that anyone could help. I only created it to make sure that everyone is aware that, no matter the fact that the BetRoyal sportsbook has been sold to SBG Global, or whatever other news that might lead one to believe that things could be changing for the better, BetRoyal (the casino part at least) is run by crooks.
AJ is gone but all the others are staying. This place is ingrained with a rotten attitude that is not about to change.
I've only been a member here for a little over a year, and they have been in the Rogue pit for that whole time and probably a lot longer. I can't speak for anyone other than myself but I'm pretty sure that most people know enough to stay away from them (new players excluded of course).
Have you seen this thread here? -
Quote: Originally Posted by gmblpdam
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| Posted by: fredb at July 22, 2007, 7:52 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Just to make things clear :
I did not create this thread in order to whine or in the hope that anyone could help. I only created it to make sure that everyone is aware that, no matter the fact that the BetRoyal sportsbook has been sold to SBG Global, or whatever other news that might lead one to believe that things could be changing for the better, BetRoyal (the casino part at least) is run by crooks.
AJ is gone but all the others are staying. This place is ingrained with a rotten attitude that is not about to change.
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at July 21, 2007, 10:03 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by MPB
To give a casino a name so close to "betrayal" is quite funny.
And what a suprise that AJ is gone and now there's "James Cash". If enough BS has piled up I guess he will quickly be replaced by "Johnny Gambol" and the by "Jack Black".
Okay so I'm a little slow on the uptake, but I just realized that "AJ" is probably a phony name too.
"AJ" is, after all, a Blackjack.
What a bunch of douchebags.
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at July 21, 2007, 6:03 pm | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by MPB
To give a casino a name so close to "betrayal" is quite funny.
And what a suprise that AJ is gone and now there's "James Cash". If enough BS has piled up I guess he will quickly be replaced by "Johnny Gambol" and the by "Jack Black".
And then by "Rich Greenback", "Jimmy DeMonay" and finally, "John Dough".
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| Posted by: MPB at July 21, 2007, 10:35 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
To give a casino a name so close to "betrayal" is quite funny.
And what a suprise that AJ is gone and now there's "James Cash". If enough BS has piled up I guess he will quickly be replaced by "Johnny Gambol" and the by "Jack Black".
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| Posted by: SlotsWizard at July 20, 2007, 5:34 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
You have two strikes against you:
1. You played at a shitty/rogue casino.
2. You further pushed your luck by flaunting an ambiguous part of the T&C hoping that it would work out in your favor. See #1.
Given that you joined the forum in 2003 you have probably been around and read quite a few posts even if you didn't contribute to many. By now you should have known that if you play with fire you are going to get burned. It is never safe to assume, without written clarification from the casino, that just because a game "doesn't count towards WR" that you have a green light to play that game when using a bonus.
I wish I could offer more sympathy, but... why would you play at DebtRoyal?
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| Posted by: fredb at July 20, 2007, 12:06 am | | Topic: Betroyal steals my winnings. Forum: Casino Meister |
I had a horrific experience with Betroyal.
Back in March I played a promo at their casino and won a few thousands, but they confiscated my winnings because I played roulette, even though the rules merely mentioned that roulette does not count towards the rollover (I completed the rollover on other games that counted).
Since then I have discussed this issue on a few occasions with their ex-manager AJ. Just recently, AJ was supposed to discuss things with the accounting people but now he is gone. I have tried to resume discussion with James Cash today but it turned disastrous.
I know that another player on this forum (mathilda) also played roulette on a promo there a while ago and got a promise that she would get paid. I guess they were briefly open to logical thinking back then but these days are gone.
These guys, not just James Cash, others at Betroyal too, are used to the upbeat, pushy ways of the snakeoil salesman. Logical thinking and fair discussion are al... | | Read Entire Entry |
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