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Posted by: Mousey at February 3, 2008, 3:56 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

Ok... Finally!! I found a bit of an update on this.


Verdict pending in Internet gambling case


By Neal Wagner
nwagner@cdispatch.com
Saturday, February 2, 2008 9:17 PM CST


WEST POINT - Circuit Judge Jim Kitchens is expected to hand down a judgment by Feb. 13 in a Clay County case, which could involve Internet gambling.

The Mississippi attorney general's office halted the Clay County Justice Court case against Ronnie and Jeff Moore, owners of the Paradise Isle Internet Cafe on Main Street in West Point almost immediately after it was filed.

And the pair could be facing felony charges if Kitchens convicts them of allowing their patrons to gamble illegally.

The case got underway after Gaming Commission agents raided the cafe on Sept. 12, 2007, shut it down and seized 40 computers. The raid came after an undercover MGC agent isited the site on Sept. 9.

MGC Deputy Director Eddie Williams told the Circuit Cou...
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Posted by: NASHVEGAS at September 25, 2007, 7:29 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote: Originally Posted by lojo

I contacted Auditor for follow up and pointed him here, looks like we might have the 'latest' on that... waiting.

Yeah, RICO can apply to anybody now (except the popo) certainly not what it was intended for unless, if, in this case they were laundering money garnered from racketeering. But we just don't know anything yet, and might not... heck they haven't even announced it was actually gambling related yet, but it sounds like it could be...

Exactly but I would suspect the ole ML(which is quite broad as is racketeering) to be part of any possible indictment so all bases are covered. However, I am stricty speculating.
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Posted by: lojo at September 25, 2007, 7:19 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote: Originally Posted by NASHVEGAS

Thanks as I was exhausted after the ballgame last night;inquiring minds want to know, not sure about other minds................I do know it is pretty much SOP in ml,drug ring, and now online gaming cases and probably related to the RICO laws.

I contacted Auditor for follow up and pointed him here, looks like we might have the 'latest' on that... waiting.

Yeah, RICO can apply to anybody now (except the popo) certainly not what it was intended for unless, if, in this case they were laundering money garnered from racketeering. But we just don't know anything yet, and might not... heck they haven't even announced it was actually gambling related yet, but it sounds like it could be...

looks like we'll have to wait and see if a grand jury hands doen indictments
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Posted by: NASHVEGAS at September 25, 2007, 7:00 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote: Originally Posted by lojo

Didn't this same thing happen in Washington state a while back? Could be wrong about the state but J. Todd reported on the seizure of computers without cause or charges being filed...

edit: inquiring

Thanks as I was exhausted after the ballgame last night;inquiring minds want to know, not sure about other minds................I do know it is pretty much SOP in ml,drug ring, and now online gaming cases and probably related to the RICO laws.
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Posted by: winbig at September 25, 2007, 3:56 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote: Originally Posted by jetset

You're thinking of the Nick Jenkins - Betcha.com case (see Casinomeister News pages)

I wonder what happened to that case?

http://www.casinomeister.com/news/se...A.COM-CASE.php


Quote:

WASHINGTON AUTHORITIES ASK FOR MORE TIME IN BETCHA.COM CASE

State gaming officials triggered the issue, but now claim they have insufficient time to respond to Betcha's case.....................


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Posted by: jetset at September 25, 2007, 3:34 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

You're thinking of the Nick Jenkins - Betcha.com case (see Casinomeister News pages)

I wonder what happened to that case?
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Posted by: lojo at September 25, 2007, 3:11 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

Didn't this same thing happen in Washington state a while back? Could be wrong about the state but J. Todd reported on the seizure of computers without cause or charges being filed...

edit: inquiring
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Posted by: NASHVEGAS at September 25, 2007, 6:13 am
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote: Originally Posted by jetset

One aspect of this that I find intriguing (and I would be alarmed if I was a Mississippi resident) is encompassed in this paragraph of the report:

QUOTE: The Mississippi Gaming Commission seized dozens of computers from Internet Cafe in downtown West Point a couple weeks ago. And MGC officials are tight-lipped about whether or not the business was being used for Internet gambling.

“I never said that they were participating in Internet gambling,” Eddie Williams, MGC deputy director, said. UNQUOTE

The way I read that, it means that officialdom can walk into a business, confiscate 40 of its computers and stuff up its business efficiency in doing so....yet not have to give a reason.

Astonishing.

Happens all the time most specifically in federal cases where possibly money laundering,etc is suspected. Not an attorney and tired so do not quote me exactly. I believe the Fed. agencies(for sure,not...
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Posted by: jetset at September 25, 2007, 5:36 am
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

One aspect of this that I find intriguing (and I would be alarmed if I was a Mississippi resident) is encompassed in this paragraph of the report:

QUOTE: The Mississippi Gaming Commission seized dozens of computers from Internet Cafe in downtown West Point a couple weeks ago. And MGC officials are tight-lipped about whether or not the business was being used for Internet gambling.

“I never said that they were participating in Internet gambling,” Eddie Williams, MGC deputy director, said. UNQUOTE

The way I read that, it means that officialdom can walk into a business, confiscate 40 of its computers and stuff up its business efficiency in doing so....yet not have to give a reason.

Astonishing.
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Posted by: SlotsWizard at September 25, 2007, 4:09 am
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

This bullshit needs to stop! The states and feds have taken this WAY too far!

Can we please rewind the country about 8 years and start over again?
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Posted by: winbig at September 25, 2007, 4:03 am
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote: Originally Posted by pokeraddict

Since when did MS make it a felony to gamble online or is the report just wrong here?

Since when is a computer a gambling device?


ARREST EVERYONE THAT HAS A COMPUTER!


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Posted by: pokeraddict at September 25, 2007, 2:32 am
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister


Quote:

Illegal gambling machines aren't restricted to computers though Internet gambling is a felony offense

Since when did MS make it a felony to gamble online or is the report just wrong here?
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Posted by: DakWinner at September 25, 2007, 2:19 am
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

With the rise in gang iolence, drugs, murders,etc. the feds are doing this! What has this got to do with this country's security? I think they are hot on the trail of some old lady's bingo winnings.
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Posted by: lojo at September 24, 2007, 11:37 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

O M m'er f'ing G when did miss become part of la?

It could be illegal to offer a cafe style opportunity, but these putz' will not make a case for patrons in their own homes breaking the law by gambling in online casinos.

Nice little sneak attack to try to chip away, get some precedences set to be upheld in superior court and then re-interpretted as case law against individual rights to gamble online.

Will have to wait and see what they try before getting too riled up.

Thanks Mousey, you are on the ball as usual
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Posted by: winbig at September 24, 2007, 11:31 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

Yea, go get 'em guys.

If they were to hunt down dangerous, iolent and still at large criminals as much as they are going after online gamblers (same thing, right? Felons), it would be so much safer for everyone to be outside after dark.

You only need 2 words to describe MS' motivation to charge people gambling online with a felony:

Riverboat Gambling

The way they see it: If you want to gamble, fine. Just do it at the local casinos, NOT ONLINE. That way we can be sure to tax you if you win big, and if you lose, we'll just get our take from the casino.
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Posted by: Mousey at September 24, 2007, 11:25 pm
Topic: Mississippi Gaming Commission seized computers from Internet Cafe Forum: Casino Meister

West Point seizure of computers highlights Internet gambling crackdown

By June C. Straight
jstraight@cdispatch.com

Monday, September 24, 2007 2:31 PM CDT


Maybe they were and maybe they weren't. But if you are, you're committing a felony.

The Mississippi Gaming Commission seized dozens of computers from Internet Cafe in downtown West Point a couple weeks ago. And MGC officials are tight-lipped about whether or not the business was being used for Internet gambling.

“I never said that they were participating in Internet gambling,” Eddie Williams, MGC deputy director, said.

The cafe, which is located at 411-D West Main St. and is reportedly owned by Ronnie Moore and Jeff Moore, was shut down after the MGC seized 40 computers on Sept. 12.

The closure comes at a time when the MGC is combating a rash of businesses offering illegal gambling machines.


“There's numerous places all over Mississippi that have ille...
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