| Posted by: Rusty at January 19, 2008, 7:12 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
No ifs or buts the payout is so low there since Dec.
Account closed
Bodog were my last chance saloon as far as online gaming goes and when even low rolling gives me no pleasure because the outcomes are so predictable it is time to hold my hands up and say I surrender.
I will try another casino in time no doubt but at last the fun and wonder of playing online has gone for me which is a sad indictment of all the Casinos I have played.
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| Posted by: kakata at January 17, 2008, 2:51 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty
Just changed my account from $ to £ and every jackpot has been reset to 1000
Had a hit early on, upped my stake and got about 20% return until I Zeroed out.
Sucks
.............................and when you think it cant get any worse.........than you make the biggest mistake.....it can, oh yes it can!!!!
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 17, 2008, 2:40 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Just changed my account from $ to £ and every jackpot has been reset to 1000
Had a hit early on, upped my stake and got about 20% return until I Zeroed out.
Sucks
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| Posted by: winbig at January 16, 2008, 9:08 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Bodog was actually one of the casinos that I ended up ahead for 2007. I hit a streak in December where I rarely hit bonus rounds, and even when I did, they paid about 50% or less of what I wagered to get there. I think the most I got from a bonus round was ~30x....and I can definitely say that it took more than 30 spins to trigger it.
Needless to say, I haven't played there since Maybe in a couple of months.
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 16, 2008, 1:27 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
Call me paranoid, but if the payout % suddenly goes up at Bodog after this "update" then something is definitely wrong...
Is it just a coincidence that the payouts suddenly dropped the last month or two, which coincides with the slow time for online gaming?
I had great runs at Bodog for the most part of '07. ....until December.
I think whether or not the payouts go back up is a moot point TBH, the fact that we all noticed the payouts drop in the same period has to be more than coincidence.
Like you Winbig I have had some great runs at Bodog (Sure I lose in the end) but that is expected but at least I had the chance to cashout several times and despite the odd drought before the Holiday season I would get more game for my money than any other Casino.
I played last night and had a good run on Cleopatra and Achilles (like the good old Days) but Paradise dreams and others still refuse to pay a cent an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: winbig at January 16, 2008, 11:24 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Call me paranoid, but if the payout % suddenly goes up at Bodog after this "update" then something is definitely wrong...
Is it just a coincidence that the payouts suddenly dropped the last month or two, which coincides with the slow time for online gaming?
I had great runs at Bodog for the most part of '07. ....until December.
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| Posted by: lojo at January 16, 2008, 4:14 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by kakata
No my friend .........what I asked em was to look at my "losing" stats..............which they didnt give S***t about it.and just politely told me to go F my self............I hope I dont be banned again
They don't deserve your play, G. You're better off without them then
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| Posted by: kakata at January 16, 2008, 4:00 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by lojo
Am I hearing you say that you asked BoDog for your play logs and they declined!?!
ROGUE!!!@%&$^%$&^#%%& I say if so.
If you more or less accused them of cheating and asked them to look at your stats... well, that's another thing.
Please specificly request your play logs and let us know how they respond. If ya don't mind. would ya?
No my friend .........what I asked em was to look at my "losing" stats..............which they didnt give S***t about it.and just politely told me to go F my self............I hope I dont be banned again
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| Posted by: winbig at January 16, 2008, 2:41 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty
There is a software update this morning 8am CET.
Maybe it is the new slots or maybe they are resetting the payouts
It has to be good news either way
I ote for both #1 and #2. Christmas time is over, so they don't have to continue with the current 35% payout.
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 16, 2008, 2:38 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
There is a software update this morning 8am CET.
Maybe it is the new slots or maybe they are resetting the payouts
It has to be good news either way
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| Posted by: winbig at January 15, 2008, 10:01 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty
One thing I will give Bodog credit for is they have always answered emails and always sent any game logs I have requested.
That's for sure. They have some of the best CSR's around if you ask me.
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 14, 2008, 4:15 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
One thing I will give Bodog credit for is they have always answered emails and always sent any game logs I have requested.
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| Posted by: lojo at January 14, 2008, 1:58 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by kakata
Bodog.....after Ive played there for months without a public complain(strange isnt it?), ive emailed them and asked em to look at my stats.
They ery politely told me to go F**k my self.
If they can say no to a customer like me.....they really make a lot of money, cause I do play a lot on a daily basis.
Thats what they offer.... take it or leave it.........ive chosen the 2th .
One hundred deposits.......no cash outs.
One more Famous casino in to the t.........t.
I dont know about you guys.......im goin to give up.
Cmon now.....waiting for you...........(my friends).......
Am I hearing you say that you asked BoDog for your play logs and they declined!?!
ROGUE!!!@%&$^%$&^#%%& I say if so.
If you more or less accused them of cheating and asked them to look at your stats... well, that's another thing.
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 12, 2008, 3:28 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Jetset has posted a great link the in Kahnawake thumbs down thread but here is an excerpt from it that may or may not be relevant here;
If all goes according to plan, Morris will soon run the North American operations of Bodog, one of the largest and most notorious gambling sites on the Internet. Started by Calvin Ayre, the brash Saskatchewan-born self-proclaimed billionaire, Bodog is an online "lifestyle brand" whose gaming sites processed about US$7 billion in wagers last year alone. Through his company, Morris will pay Bodog an undisclosed sum for the right to handle customer service, media relations, and Internet traffic, along with millions of dollars in bets, for Bodog's North American operations.
Article end of November, the plot thickens?
I have underlined the really interesting bit.
The Devil is in the detail but to say there was a conflict of interest would be an understatement.
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| Posted by: just play at January 12, 2008, 6:09 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty
Since mid December at Bodog it takes me almost twice as long to hit a feature and when I do they generally pay much less.
The overall payout seems much lower recently too.
Also I have noticed by coincidence that the RJ's seem to be going less frequently.
I like Bodog and they are the only Casino I play at regularly but lately their payouts are getting as stupidly low as MG Casinos.
Has anyone else who plays regularly at Bodog noticed something similar or is this just particular to my account?
Same here, since the same time.....very strange. I used to have dry spells then go on and win a bit, Bodog was the only place I was ever up (besides 3dice now) but since December like you said, it has been TERRIBLE.
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 12, 2008, 4:57 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by markjacob
The reps also reads the boards, and I would guess that they know that there are certain players that complain about every damn casino.
Assuming they knew who these players were in their Casinos and I would guess that pretty much every player has had cause for complaint at sometime or another in just about every damn Casino they have played.
Here is a thought, how about they actually consider the complaints have some substance and do something about it?
Silly I know
And who could say they were arrogant when they reply like this to point made about lower payouts.
Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX
Thank you for contacting Bodog Casino Customer Service.
The Bodog Group of Companies is headquartered in the Caribbean nation of Antigua.
A fully licensed wagering and entertainment company, Bodog Entertainment provides the ery best in poker, casino and sports wagering to tens of thousands o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: markjacob at January 12, 2008, 2:08 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
The reps also reads the boards, and I would guess that they know that there are certain players that complain about every damn casino.
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at January 12, 2008, 12:55 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by kakata
Bodog.....after Ive played there for months without a public complain(strange isnt it?), ive emailed them and asked em to look at my stats.
They ery politely told me to go F**k my self.
If they can say no to a customer like me.....they really make a lot of money, cause I do play a lot on a daily basis.
Thats what they offer.... take it or leave it.........ive chosen the 2th .
One hundred deposits.......no cash outs.
One more Famous casino in to the t.........t.
I dont know about you guys.......im goin to give up.
Cmon now.....waiting for you...........(my friends).......
Highly unusual, most casinos would present the figures and argue how they show that the player had, in fact, gained a false impression and that in reality they WERE getting around the long term 95% mark that is the benchmark for online slots.
There are two reasons for this reply:-
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 12, 2008, 12:11 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
I am getting there...slowly.
If my deposits go the same way next Week then that will be that.
I play for enjoyment now but even low rolling being slaughtered is no fun at all.
I had no cause for complaint either until mid/late Dec when it was suddenly like a switch had been thrown.
Which lets face it, it probably has
Stay away from slots period unless you can have some low rolling fun would be my advice.
Kakata good luck with your abstinence
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| Posted by: bb28 at January 12, 2008, 12:03 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by kakata
Bodog.....after Ive played there for months without a public complain(strange isnt it?), ive emailed them and asked em to look at my stats.
They ery politely told me to go F**k my self.
If they can say no to a customer like me.....they really make a lot of money, cause I do play a lot on a daily basis.
Thats what they offer.... take it or leave it.........ive chosen the 2th .
One hundred deposits.......no cash outs.
One more Famous casino in to the t.........t.
I dont know about you guys.......im goin to give up.
Cmon now.....waiting for you...........(my friends).......
Hi Kakata........No bashing here.
I'm sorry. It sucks..... it really does. I know where you are coming from.
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| Posted by: kakata at January 11, 2008, 11:56 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Bodog.....after Ive played there for months without a public complain(strange isnt it?), ive emailed them and asked em to look at my stats.
They ery politely told me to go F**k my self.
If they can say no to a customer like me.....they really make a lot of money, cause I do play a lot on a daily basis.
Thats what they offer.... take it or leave it.........ive chosen the 2th .
One hundred deposits.......no cash outs.
One more Famous casino in to the t.........t.
I dont know about you guys.......im goin to give up.
Cmon now.....waiting for you...........(my friends).......
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| Posted by: vinylweatherman at January 11, 2008, 2:35 am | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty
MG payout are much higher than any RTG. MG slots are fixed at 95-96% and can not be changed by the casinos!
I can show you playlogs from different MG Casinos and every single one of them bar none has a payout<75%
I have not had the possibility of a cashout at any MG Casino forever.
Since the reels are dynamically weighted the same as RTG I beg to differ when you say that payout can not be altered, it is altered all the time dependent on past results.
This is ery obvious with regards to Wild and scatter symbols after a winning streak is over.
AS far as inetbet goes their payouts were ery ery low for me but since I like
the RTG software I went over to Bodog where my payouts are generally 95%
Just a long losing streak currently that is at odds with previous results.
I am talking sample sizes of 100,000 spins plus and the statistical anonmolies are quite conspicuous.
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| Posted by: kakata at January 10, 2008, 10:16 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
you read my mi nd.........its getting worse.....lol
Maybe they have been offended
I dont know if I can make it till next week....
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 10, 2008, 5:36 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
MG payout are much higher than any RTG. MG slots are fixed at 95-96% and can not be changed by the casinos!
I can show you playlogs from different MG Casinos and every single one of them bar none has a payout<75%
I have not had the possibility of a cashout at any MG Casino forever.
Since the reels are dynamically weighted the same as RTG I beg to differ when you say that payout can not be altered, it is altered all the time dependent on past results.
This is ery obvious with regards to Wild and scatter symbols after a winning streak is over.
AS far as inetbet goes their payouts were ery ery low for me but since I like
the RTG software I went over to Bodog where my payouts are generally 95%
Just a long losing streak currently that is at odds with previous results.
I am talking sample sizes of 100,000 spins plus and the statistical anonmolies are quite conspicuous.
I do not expect you to agree with me about MG but for me it is an open and s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: chuchu59 at January 10, 2008, 5:21 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by silcnlayc
As much as I love their slots, the payout scale is ridiculously low, and you're kidding about this, right?
Most Rival slots have at least 2 features, free spins and a bonus round. To win, you have to get the bonus round during the free spins. If you get them separately you are likely to lose as you dont get much from the normal spins.
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| Posted by: Zoozie at January 10, 2008, 3:56 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by silcnlayc
As much as I love their slots, the payout scale is ridiculously low, and you're kidding about this, right?
Rival publish the exact payout% for each slot under the 'help'-page for the slot. Try check them yourself and see if they have changed, or maybe write your findings here.
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| Posted by: silcnlayc at January 10, 2008, 3:20 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
As much as I love their slots, the payout scale is ridiculously low, and you're kidding about this, right?
Quote:
Highest payout% are found at Rival,
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| Posted by: Zoozie at January 10, 2008, 2:41 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty
I like Bodog and they are the only Casino I play at regularly but lately their payouts are getting as stupidly low as MG Casinos.
MG payout are much higher than any RTG. MG slots are fixed at 95-96% and can not be changed by the casinos! While RTG can configure they payout% and from my experience they are nowhere near 95% I always felt INetBet, where I have played most RTG slot, seemed to have better payouts%. And they are one of the few RTG that have publiced payout% charts, and I think the slots was in 94-95% range. I never liked Bodog, so I have only played there twice.
For other RTG casino especially the rotten ones, I am sure you should be happy if you are playing a 91% slot.
Highest payout% are found at Rival, and I think 3Dice are close. Wagerworks used to have 96.2% slots as well, but they are downgraded to 95.0%. (Cleopatra). And then MG.. Then Crypto... And then RTG/Playtech.
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| Posted by: Rusty at January 10, 2008, 1:56 pm | | Topic: Bodog lower payout? Forum: Casino Meister |
Since mid December at Bodog it takes me almost twice as long to hit a feature and when I do they generally pay much less.
The overall payout seems much lower recently too.
Also I have noticed by coincidence that the RJ's seem to be going less frequently.
I like Bodog and they are the only Casino I play at regularly but lately their payouts are getting as stupidly low as MG Casinos.
Has anyone else who plays regularly at Bodog noticed something similar or is this just particular to my account?
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