| Posted by: peteyweestro at January 20, 2008, 6:07 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
i agree about giving money to the rogues, never have never will..that being said though i stated here in these forums awhile back how i had played a free chip from bet royal and was able to meet the wr and was western unioned the money in less then 2 weeks so who knows,miracles do happen
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| Posted by: RobWin at January 20, 2008, 12:40 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Simmo!
There are still a handfull of good casinos that take all US players. True, since the detrimental effects of the UIGEA took hold, the rogues have got the upper hand, but threads like this should help push players in the right direction. If only certain "politicians" knew what they'd done...or maybe they do and just don't care.
I can name at least 10 that I play at regularly and are great with fast payouts....never had an issue and most have been accredited here...not sure if they all still are now or not...
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| Posted by: RobWin at January 20, 2008, 12:36 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
IMO, Virtual (and other rogues) monitor arious forums, and will hand pick active members such as Kathy and others to be their "poster child" for the casino. These hand picked people will be the ones that will always get paid, and in a timely fashion.
As I said before, these players are pawns in these rogue's game. When you break it all down, they are using these players, plain and simple.
Although the player doesn't know it, they are indirectly being paid to praise these rogue outfits.
I have always felt that they did this too Win...makes perfect sense...they need a few that will sing their praises....so they can herd up the other less informed and naive players to join their stable...
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| Posted by: RobWin at January 20, 2008, 12:30 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Simmo!
Unfortunately, rogue casinos survive because people play there. IMO players that knowingly take risks by playing rogue outfits not only risk their own cash, but are also putting other less-knowledgeable players at risk simply by helping keep them afloat.
Excellent Point Simmo, they knowingly take those risks and they will definitely reap the benefits....
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| Posted by: Simmo! at January 19, 2008, 11:56 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by lojo
Indeed!
But what is a yank to do? Intertops, not likely.
There are still a handfull of good casinos that take all US players. True, since the detrimental effects of the UIGEA took hold, the rogues have got the upper hand, but threads like this should help push players in the right direction. If only certain "politicians" knew what they'd done...or maybe they do and just don't care.
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| Posted by: winbig at January 19, 2008, 11:55 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
IMO, Virtual (and other rogues) monitor arious forums, and will hand pick active members such as Kathy and others to be their "poster child" for the casino. These hand picked people will be the ones that will always get paid, and in a timely fashion.
As I said before, these players are pawns in these rogue's game. When you break it all down, they are using these players, plain and simple.
Although the player doesn't know it, they are indirectly being paid to praise these rogue outfits.
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| Posted by: lojo at January 19, 2008, 11:53 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Simmo!
Unfortunately, rogue casinos survive because people play there. IMO players that knowingly take risks by playing rogue outfits not only risk their own cash, but are also putting other less-knowledgeable players at risk simply by helping keep them afloat.
Indeed!
But what is a yank to do? Intertops, not likely.
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| Posted by: Simmo! at January 19, 2008, 11:47 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Unfortunately, rogue casinos survive because people play there. IMO players that knowingly take risks by playing rogue outfits not only risk their own cash, but are also putting other less-knowledgeable players at risk simply by helping keep them afloat.
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| Posted by: RobWin at January 19, 2008, 11:32 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Good Gawd !! It just simple amazes me that these folks will bitch and moan about getting burned at these ROGUE Outfits and then a little time later will go back and play at another one of their Rogue outfits in the same damn group....some people just refuse to listen to reason and have to go thru "The School of Hard Knocks" and graduate before they can see the light....Jeeze....
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| Posted by: lojo at January 19, 2008, 11:00 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Simmo!
Have to agree with Winbig. Seems odd to me to knowingly take a risk when there are so many other quality choices out there.
But the twits are so mesmerising
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| Posted by: Simmo! at January 19, 2008, 10:23 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
I decided to give them another try late last year as I was told they changed management over at BetRoyal. In the last few months, they have definitely improved
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
You won't have any sympathy if and when you get burned again; sorry and good luck. You'll need it!
Have to agree with Winbig. Seems odd to me to knowingly take a risk when there are so many other quality choices out there.
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| Posted by: winbig at January 19, 2008, 10:18 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
That post regarding Coolcat casino was made on july 31, 2007. I stopped playing in any of their casinos back then because of the hassles with payments.
As I stated in my earlier posts, I had trouble getting paid with these casinos about 6 months ago. I decided to give them another try late last year as I was told they changed management over at BetRoyal. In the last few months, they have definitely improved and it has not been a problem receiving payment (at least at prism and Betroyal). Hopefully the problems from the past won't resurface and I'll continue playing there.
You won't have any sympathy if and when you get burned again; sorry and good luck. You'll need it!
There's an old saying that still rings true:
Screw me once, shame on you - screw me twice, shame on me.
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| Posted by: lojo at January 19, 2008, 7:55 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
That post regarding Coolcat casino was made on july 31, 2007. I stopped playing in any of their casinos back then because of the hassles with payments.
As I stated in my earlier posts, I had trouble getting paid with these casinos about 6 months ago. I decided to give them another try late last year as I was told they changed management over at BetRoyal. In the last few months, they have definitely improved and it has not been a problem receiving payment (at least at prism and Betroyal). Hopefully the problems from the past won't resurface and I'll continue playing there.
Blather blather blather, I love Prism, blather blather, blather.
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| Posted by: debbiek at January 19, 2008, 6:39 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
That post regarding Coolcat casino was made on july 31, 2007. I stopped playing in any of their casinos back then because of the hassles with payments.
As I stated in my earlier posts, I had trouble getting paid with these casinos about 6 months ago. I decided to give them another try late last year as I was told they changed management over at BetRoyal. In the last few months, they have definitely improved and it has not been a problem receiving payment (at least at prism and Betroyal). Hopefully the problems from the past won't resurface and I'll continue playing there.
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| Posted by: winbig at January 19, 2008, 8:17 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Debbie.....I don't understand where you're coming from.
Quote:
Virtual Casino Group
The Virtual Casino
Cirrus Casino
Prism Casino
Cool Cat Casino
Palace of Chance
Club Player
Vip Lounge
Bet Royal Casino
SlotsofVegas.com
Wild Vegas Casino
You slam Cool Cat, which is part of the Virtual Group in this post: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post177761
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If you play there, they may pay you on the first cashout to give the appearance that they do pay. After that, you will never receive anything. Trust me on that. They are rogue for good reason.
But, you're defending another casino within their group in this thread?
Why the sudden change of heart? If Cool Cat burned you (which it seems they did by your post in that thread), why continue to patronize other casinos in the same group?
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| Posted by: lojo at January 19, 2008, 8:02 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
You can parse that Lojo.
Bring the owner here or shut the fex up. I've dealt with twits who attack the casino.. I wanna see the MAKER show his face here. Ifn he ain't comin, I'll be asking you to stfu.
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| Posted by: lojo at January 19, 2008, 7:37 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
I never said Mainstreet group was "riskier" than irtual, but I posted in another place that they take exactly 1 month to pay after depositing thru E-check. The maximum deposit for U.S. players ia this method is $300 even though they state on their website "higher deposit limits if you erify your checking account".
I erified checking account and was still told maximum was $300. After losing for approximately 6th straight time combined at SunPalace or LasVegasUSA casino, I sent their security dept requesting game log as each $300 deposit was lost in approximately 15-20 minutes playing their slot games. I never received a reply, but they sure did withdrawl the $300 from my checking account promptly. You may think because they are on some accredited list here, they are a wise choice. I for one do not and it doesn't matter to me if they pay because the odds are it will never come to that.
BetRoyal and Prism have pai... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: debbiek at January 19, 2008, 7:34 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
I never said Mainstreet group was "riskier" than irtual, but I posted in another place that they take exactly 1 month to pay after depositing thru E-check. The maximum deposit for U.S. players ia this method is $300 even though they state on their website "higher deposit limits if you erify your checking account".
I erified checking account and was still told maximum was $300. After losing for approximately 6th straight time combined at SunPalace or LasVegasUSA casino, I sent their security dept requesting game log as each $300 deposit was lost in approximately 15-20 minutes playing their slot games. I never received a reply, but they sure did withdrawl the $300 from my checking account promptly. You may think because they are on some accredited list here, they are a wise choice. I for one do not and it doesn't matter to me if they pay because the odds are it will never come to that.
BetRoyal and Prism have paid within 1 month's time frame, and for the same depo... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: BBKPoker at January 19, 2008, 12:14 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
why bother? I just explained that fully in my post. I would never tell a friend of mine to go and deposit at the Mainstreet group of casinos for example because they could go open their window and just throw their money out.
The point is if you are looking for alue and entertainment with your money, then a bonus that offers no minimum play and no max cashout is a real advantage. The slots are not as tight there and you have a ery good starting bankroll to play. That's why I bother in addition to the fact they have always paid me.
Uh..
You think that Mainstreet group is a riskier group than the Virtual Group?
Crazy...
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| Posted by: lojo at January 18, 2008, 8:41 pm | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
As I've mix-metaphor-cliched before:
You can lead a horse to water, but can only suffer a fool for so long.
Can anyone who defends this group, or quietly deposits there actually DEFEND the actions of individual casinos? I think not. Even were one or two of them clean as a whistle for a year or three, the profits from those casinos feed the main office, the main office allows others to steal winnings. Your deposit funds thievery, period. One bad apple really does spoil the whole barrel of cider.
Play on fools, just don't expect your nonsense to go unchallenged here.
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| Posted by: LOOKAWAYORELSE! at January 18, 2008, 8:47 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
yeah you guys are probaly right. And debs to they do offer great bonus laterly no max cashout no wagering etc. I in the distant past played there but the link to irtual is to much for me.
I did get a $3.5k cash out from cool cat and my stalled small payments like $500 in a month was a joke.
Got some help tho from a forum admin and got my payments in one lump i think a 2k and a 500.
Funny thing was as soon as it hit my web wallet i was in desperate need for funds as my bank account was on the lower side and i had hit my maxinum transaction limit at moneybookers which took anouther week for staff to sort out. So i was wagering from my bank and could not get hold off any funds like about $8k either coming to me or at moneybookers.
And the coolcat money hit my account when i was high rolling on a slot and got skanking and lost my bankroll and the cool cat money went in a flash.
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| Posted by: winbig at January 18, 2008, 8:07 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
i have and still do play at Prism Casino and BetRoyal. Both of these casinos have paid large withdrawls and I honestly don't feel you can beat their offers/bonuses. They have improved greatly because i will admit, there was a time where it was a major hassle getting paid from BetRoyal about 6 months ago. I always did get paid, but i had to stay on top of things.
i have also played at all of the Mainstreet Group, Bodog, and Wagerstreet casinos over the past 6 months. All of these casinos were terrible in my opinion. No bonuses whatsoever and the money was gone in no time. After numerous deposits and continual losing, i don't even play at any of them anymore.
For pure alue and fun, the two casinos i mentioned at the top of this post I would definitely recommend. I generally play slots - 5 or $10 per spin and have done nicely. Even if i lose, I play for quite some time and the money is not gone in the first 20-30 minutes. That's my opini... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: chuchu59 at January 18, 2008, 7:44 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
i have and still do play at Prism Casino and BetRoyal. Both of these casinos have paid large withdrawls and I honestly don't feel you can beat their offers/bonuses. They have improved greatly because i will admit, there was a time where it was a major hassle getting paid from BetRoyal about 6 months ago. I always did get paid, but i had to stay on top of things.
i have also played at all of the Mainstreet Group, Bodog, and Wagerstreet casinos over the past 6 months. All of these casinos were terrible in my opinion. No bonuses whatsoever and the money was gone in no time. After numerous deposits and continual losing, i don't even play at any of them anymore.
For pure alue and fun, the two casinos i mentioned at the top of this post I would definitely recommend. I generally play slots - 5 or $10 per spin and have done nicely. Even if i lose, I play for quite some time and the money is not gone in the first 20-30 minutes. That's my o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: lojo at January 18, 2008, 4:25 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
why bother? I just explained that fully in my post. I would never tell a friend of mine to go and deposit at the Mainstreet group of casinos for example because they could go open their window and just throw their money out.
The point is if you are looking for alue and entertainment with your money, then a bonus that offers no minimum play and no max cashout is a real advantage. The slots are not as tight there and you have a ery good starting bankroll to play. That's why I bother in addition to the fact they have always paid me.
See my other post.
When that group actually divests certain casinos - completely- and those casinos change their names, I might buy what you are saying (as I have said in the past) but as long as the Virtual 'stable' answers to an accounting department that can not, after all of this time, pay an owed wager, and as long as individual managers get to play games with owed wagers, and as long as Vi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: debbiek at January 18, 2008, 4:20 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
why bother? I just explained that fully in my post. I would never tell a friend of mine to go and deposit at the Mainstreet group of casinos for example because they could go open their window and just throw their money out.
The point is if you are looking for alue and entertainment with your money, then a bonus that offers no minimum play and no max cashout is a real advantage. The slots are not as tight there and you have a ery good starting bankroll to play. That's why I bother in addition to the fact they have always paid me.
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| Posted by: lojo at January 18, 2008, 4:19 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
I 'backed that horse'. They always treated me just fine, I challenged the PaB section on some of the casinos and they were 'fine' for a while (but each screwed a player eventually). I spoke against one manager in the group (with good reason) and lost juice with all of them. Two seperate casinos 'played games' with my withdrawals. I quit depositing there in the privacy of my own home.
Count your blessings and keep your mouth shut (unless you are speaking kindly of them) and you may be paid. Just don't win anything big, and don't piss off daddy or you might go without dinner tonight
I wanted them to do well, I still do. But you have to know that defending them in this thread will get you nothing but the edge of flamed.
Casinomeister gave them an award. Will you wear it too?
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| Posted by: lojo at January 18, 2008, 4:10 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by debbiek
i have and still do play at Prism Casino and BetRoyal. Both of these casinos have paid large withdrawls and I honestly don't feel you can beat their offers/bonuses. They have improved greatly because i will admit, there was a time where it was a major hassle getting paid from BetRoyal about 6 months ago. I always did get paid, but i had to stay on top of things.
i have also played at all of the Mainstreet Group, Bodog, and Wagerstreet casinos over the past 6 months. All of these casinos were terrible in my opinion. No bonuses whatsoever and the money was gone in no time. After numerous deposits and continual losing, i don't even play at any of them anymore.
For pure alue and fun, the two casinos i mentioned at the top of this post I would definitely recommend. I generally play slots - 5 or $10 per spin and have done nicely. Even if i lose, I play for quite some time and the money is not gone in the first 20-30 minutes. That's my o... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: debbiek at January 18, 2008, 4:01 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
i have and still do play at Prism Casino and BetRoyal. Both of these casinos have paid large withdrawls and I honestly don't feel you can beat their offers/bonuses. They have improved greatly because i will admit, there was a time where it was a major hassle getting paid from BetRoyal about 6 months ago. I always did get paid, but i had to stay on top of things.
i have also played at all of the Mainstreet Group, Bodog, and Wagerstreet casinos over the past 6 months. All of these casinos were terrible in my opinion. No bonuses whatsoever and the money was gone in no time. After numerous deposits and continual losing, i don't even play at any of them anymore.
For pure alue and fun, the two casinos i mentioned at the top of this post I would definitely recommend. I generally play slots - 5 or $10 per spin and have done nicely. Even if i lose, I play for quite some time and the money is not gone in the first 20-30 minutes. That's my opinion as I have deposited there numerous times.
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| Posted by: vbdragon at January 17, 2008, 5:09 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
I'm with Chuchu59 ..
I would advise extreme caution playing a Cirrus.
In fact I would advise you to never play there again.
Obviously it is a gamble when you bet your money,
but why take the added risk of "Will they pay me?" when it is a ROGUE CASINO?
Take care & good luck.
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| Posted by: chuchu59 at January 17, 2008, 4:20 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
They still might pay if you are an overall winner. My guess is that they use the RNG to decide which 5% of the players they pay so that it can be used as evidence that they still pay out to customers. There have just been too many player issues and they have had enough opportunities to redeem themseles. Tread carefully, Parpol.
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| Posted by: winbig at January 17, 2008, 3:12 am | | Topic: Cirrus:Worst Casino of 2007 Forum: Casino Meister |
I guess you're not up overall at their casino....Just wait until you are, and then see how they treat you
Even if they pay (albeit slowly), does that really warrant supporting the Virtual Group?
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