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Posted by: lyckodan at February 27, 2007, 4:37 pm
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
I guess I will be withdrawing from party in connection with the February reload, should give me all the raked hands I need
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Posted by: MDStorey at February 27, 2007, 8:09 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
oakrdrzfan wrote: MDStorey wrote: oakrdrzfan wrote: For Party Poker, you need to play 25% raked hands of the amount you want to withdraw. If you want to take out $500, you would have to play at least 125 raked hands.

Just for curiousity sake, is there some line in the T&C's that specifies this? It seems like you are making a very definitive statement there...

Actually, I probably misspoke a little. You have to play 25% in raked hands if someone transfers money to you and then you want to cash it out. This is documented on Party's website. It makes sense to do at least this in cover play if you wanted to just pass the money through Party prior to cashing out.

Hmmm, interesting. I had never done an inter-account transfer (probably because I'm a tightwad) and sure enough there it is in the T&C's for transfers...

Quote: 5. You agree that the recipient will have to play:

For poker: The wagering requirement is t...
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Posted by: oakrdrzfan at February 27, 2007, 1:59 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
MDStorey wrote: oakrdrzfan wrote: For Party Poker, you need to play 25% raked hands of the amount you want to withdraw. If you want to take out $500, you would have to play at least 125 raked hands.

Just for curiousity sake, is there some line in the T&C's that specifies this? It seems like you are making a very definitive statement there...

Actually, I probably misspoke a little. You have to play 25% in raked hands if someone transfers money to you and then you want to cash it out. This is documented on Party's website. It makes sense to do at least this in cover play if you wanted to just pass the money through Party prior to cashing out.
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Posted by: FourTeller at February 26, 2007, 7:28 pm
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
Personally I tend to time my non-NT withdrawals from Party with their reloads so I don't always do cover play, strictly speaking. Don't know if it makes a difference but I think having gone through the security verification by the financial people (when I finally started using my dormant Empire account) may also help reduce red flags. It often just doesn't look good to deposit and withdraw from a poker room, especially via different methods, without some play in between.

The exact amount of hands depends on my mood, limits, regular playing (in)frequency, withdrawal sum and/or player feedback from others on their experiences - I've never heard of a specific ratio but 20-25% seems reasonable enough. I also try to leave the funds untouched for a little while; I'm not sure it looks 'normal' to start multitabling right after depositing, finish within an hour and instantly withdraw (at worst I'd only take out a partial sum, or wait an hour or two).

Of course I don't really know how much attent...
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Posted by: lyckodan at February 25, 2007, 10:30 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
I can do 250 raked party hands for a thousand bucks, that will take no time. But before I do, I'd like to know where the information comes from, that seems almost too nice of Party if it is a rule
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Posted by: MDStorey at February 25, 2007, 8:15 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
oakrdrzfan wrote: For Party Poker, you need to play 25% raked hands of the amount you want to withdraw. If you want to take out $500, you would have to play at least 125 raked hands.

Just for curiousity sake, is there some line in the T&C's that specifies this? It seems like you are making a very definitive statement there...
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Posted by: BonusSnore at February 25, 2007, 1:28 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
Is this standard now? Anyone with an account in USD will have to send it in EUR or UKP and eat the transaction fees?
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Posted by: oakrdrzfan at February 25, 2007, 1:07 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
lyckodan wrote: FourTeller wrote: Assuming it's not a particularly huge sum of money (no more than a few hundred), perhaps you could deposit from Neteller into a poker site that allows customers to use multiple payment methods (e.g. Party) and withdraw from there by other means - after some cover play of course.

FT

That is what I have done, but I don't know about the cover play (for now I am waiting for the reload and will withdraw everything after that)... how much cover play would you need?

How many other sites allow this? When I was casinowhoring in the ancient past (2001), everybody allowed cheques, do they still? In that case I could just overdeposit for my next bonus and withdraw everything by cheque?

Or I might just get a Neteller card, but what guarantee do I have that they keep working (apparently they still do for people in my situation, with heavy fees, of course) ?

For Party Poker, you need to play 25% raked hands of the am...
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Posted by: lyckodan at February 25, 2007, 12:11 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
FourTeller wrote: Assuming it's not a particularly huge sum of money (no more than a few hundred), perhaps you could deposit from Neteller into a poker site that allows customers to use multiple payment methods (e.g. Party) and withdraw from there by other means - after some cover play of course.

FT

That is what I have done, but I don't know about the cover play (for now I am waiting for the reload and will withdraw everything after that)... how much cover play would you need?

How many other sites allow this? When I was casinowhoring in the ancient past (2001), everybody allowed cheques, do they still? In that case I could just overdeposit for my next bonus and withdraw everything by cheque?

Or I might just get a Neteller card, but what guarantee do I have that they keep working (apparently they still do for people in my situation, with heavy fees, of course) ?
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Posted by: FourTeller at February 24, 2007, 5:53 pm
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
Assuming it's not a particularly huge sum of money (no more than a few hundred), perhaps you could deposit from Neteller into a poker site that allows customers to use multiple payment methods (e.g. Party) and withdraw from there by other means - after some cover play of course. Now is definitely the time for even non-US whores to investigate and start using alternative funding options, if they haven't already. The NordicBet reload, for instance, gave me the excuse to finally dust off my previously unused MoneyBookers account, which I was able deposit into from the Poker.com cashier.

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Posted by: lyckodan at February 24, 2007, 12:17 pm
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
*praying*
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Posted by: PokerBonusWhore at February 24, 2007, 9:17 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
lyckodan wrote: Anyone have a tip what I should do in order to get hold of my money?

Get on your knees and pray??
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Posted by: lyckodan at February 24, 2007, 6:28 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
Anyone have a tip what I should do in order to get hold of my money?
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Posted by: lyckodan at February 23, 2007, 9:20 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
I have been receiving the money before to my Swedish bank, in USD, without any problems, with some fees from my bank (and $1 from Neteller plus a crappy exchange rate).
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Posted by: pegboy at February 23, 2007, 9:19 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
This has been happening all over. Neteller no longer has a clearing house willing/able to issue US cheques. They say they are trying to find one but that may never happen. Instead, I set up an electronic transfer directly to my Canadian bank account in Canadian funds. I phoned and asked them to wave the fee. They did. The money took 3 days to arrive in my account during which I was a little worried. I suffered the exchange rate, whatever it was.

Worried no more.

That is my take on it for what it's worth.
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Posted by: lyckodan at February 23, 2007, 8:48 am
Topic: Neteller refuses my non-US withdrawal (!!!) Forum: Bonus Whores
Dear Mr. Repugnant Whore,


At this time, USD bank wires are being delayed in the United States. Funds are either being returned to your originating bank or being pushed through to our account at Barclays UK, which is taking several weeks.


We need to re-submit your bank transfer withdrawals from NETELLER in EUR or GBP. Please reply to this e-mail to make these arrangements.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

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I am from Sweden and they wont let me cash out in US Dollars to my Swedish account... do anyone see something strange here?
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