| Posted by: shoesnatcher at July 2, 2005, 11:45 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | I find that I tend to be overly protective of my bankroll too. I have had the wad to play at NL50 for a while now but have yet to move up. The problem is I feel so comfortable at NL25. Last october I started with $425 of my own money the wad is at $1975 right now. One thing I keep telling myself is that I am playing on other peoples money, so when I loose I am not loosing my money but someone elses I will be moving up to NL50 beginning next week, so much for being comfortable, but I have $1550 of other people's money to play on...
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| Posted by: HeelHo at June 27, 2005, 10:22 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Its worse the second time around. I used to never have a problem with 20/40 or modest 4 digit stacks in NL games, but i still get bent out of shape over big 2/4 pots I lose or 50-100 in PL game.
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| Posted by: Valhalla1 at June 27, 2005, 9:18 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | online, I've only barely ventured above 2/4 or $100nl, and when I do, I still can get the heart pounding, etc. with big hands
but playing live games at 3/6, 5/10 are no sweat at all. must be the free cocktails | | Static Link |
| Posted by: wontstop985 at June 27, 2005, 1:33 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | | if you're afraid of losing money at a limit, or intimidated by the size of the bets/pots, then don't play it yet. all that will end up happening is you'll end up losing. learn to play without any attachment to the money and you'll be able to move up to any limit without being nervous or intimidated. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: 2outer at June 12, 2005, 4:04 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Grinder wrote: LOL - THAT is the thing you have to get used to - sticker shock. Happens at every level. Happened when I went to 3/6. It's like I'm a total newbie.
All you can do is just think of it in big bet terms - not money!
HEY - I was in a 3/6 KILL game the other day with pocket 10s - HEART WAS POUNDING!!!
I thought I was stupid for having this... heart pounding so loud the neighbours can hear it, being afraid to lose too much etc. When I first played $2/$4 the bets seemed so huge! Now I'm pretty used to $2/$4. I also play $3/$6 sometimes (since I already have more than 400 BB's) and I'm doing alright there too. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hogua at June 6, 2005, 2:42 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | For me, the key is thinking in terms of BB's.. especially when evaluating a session. if you focus on $$, when you jump up, you're results will seem SKU'd. You'll either be excited becuase you won more that you have in along time, or, you'll be crushed because you lost more than you have in a long time.
Playing a lot of tournies help me with this. Since the limits are always changing, you soon realize that the total amount is not important, but the #BB is. (You start at $5/10 and move up to $1000/2000 before it ends. Soon it makes sense). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at June 6, 2005, 7:30 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | hackmage wrote: How the hell do you guys do it?
I finally decided last night that I'd play a lil 2/4 on Interpoker even though I've had the roll for over 3 months. OMG, my heart has never beat faster than when I had 50$ pot I wasn't 100% sure I'd win. How the hell do you guys get over this feeling? I understand I'm extremely risk averse for a gambler (still haven't done stickies, won't touch em til I got over 4k); but this is crazy, I've never been so scared that I wasn't a winning player. Then of course I play the Party 25 PL and NL games, so I guess 2/4 isn't all that much more risk.
If I am running over tables at, let's say PP NL $50, then my next session will include 2 NL $100 and 2 NL $50 tables. If I fare well at the NL $100 tables then I go to 3 NL $100 and 1 NL $50 tables. Acutally I sit at these right now even though I am BR'd to sit at the NL $200 and have sat at those tables at other sites (ie. Bodog, Crypto). I play 6 max though.
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| Posted by: Grinder at June 6, 2005, 4:48 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: and my adherence to an at least 300 BB rule,
You DO know that this rule is for people that NEVER want to put another dime in the bank.
Also - your variance is greater in 2/4 because the players are worse - you will win bigger pots but also lose bigger.
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| Posted by: hackmage at June 6, 2005, 4:23 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Well alright thanks for the advice but in all seriousness the PP NL game doesn't make my heart pound as much as the crazies on the 2/4 cryptos. I won a Royal Flush tonight on the Cryptos which helped a bit considering I was in such a huge down swing tonight.
Generally on the PP skin bonusi I clear it using the NL or PL tables either O, O/8, or HE. The hands just go sooooo much faster. Also, hate to say it, but I agree with most the NL players on 2+2, the NL tables for some reason provide less variance, which is something I like.
As for 2/4 finished up 2 BB after only ever hitting a total of a +4.5BB up swing, and yes I only look at them as BB, but still when you got 12BB on the line and you dunno if you got the hand, that's a friggin bitch (P.S that's a pot over 24BB, yea had one of those on 2/4 never seen that on 1/2). I'd still sweat it at 1/2 oddly, that's a lot of BB without the nuts to sweat out. I'd much rather prefer moving in on some mofo with my buyin on a 6-max NL table wit... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Grinder at June 6, 2005, 4:08 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | 2/4 last night - I was on a table withthe AVERAGE pot over a 13 hand period of $89.
I won a hand with AJs of $92, because 2 guys were going for inside straights. It was crazy - 2 maniacs at 1 table.
START if the crazies
Seat 5: sammie5 ( $124 )
Seat 6: kirali ( $314.1 )
END of the Crazies
Seat 5: sammie5 ( $0 )
Seat 6: kirali ( $257)
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| Posted by: Loke at June 5, 2005, 8:26 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Osric wrote: I hesitate recommending this, but if the hang up is going from 1/2 to 2/4 you might try getting on the crypto sites and playing the pound games. You will essentially be playing 2/4, but since everything LOOKS like 1/2, it isn't as big of a deal when you get into a pot.
I hesitate, however, because crypto has been so tight lately I've barely been able to break even over the past two months. Them opening the microlimit games has killed me there.
Actually, that's how I just did it. Cryptos became unbearable at $1/2 so I went to pounds. I treated it like dollars and it made the transition easy. It went well for me. So, I decided this past week to move to $2/4. To be honest, I don't feel any different with it than I did at $1/2. I am however playing only two tables and NOT chasing bonuses. I am playing with bonuses, not because of them, and am playing to improve so I can continue to move up. The bonus money is just, well, a bonus. Of course I won't do any 7 day ones because ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Cha Ngo at June 5, 2005, 5:02 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Good thing you don't play NL, where moving up means double the stakes
This is in limit also until you hit 3-6.
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| Posted by: AlexAtlas at June 5, 2005, 2:46 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Probably a wise choice, but not for me. the 1/2 pound tables are the only tables (acording to PokerTracker) where Im not a winning player. I do well on $2/4, but I seem to have never ending bad luck at pound tables.
Osric wrote: I hesitate recommending this, but if the hang up is going from 1/2 to 2/4 you might try getting on the crypto sites and playing the pound games. You will essentially be playing 2/4, but since everything LOOKS like 1/2, it isn't as big of a deal when you get into a pot.
I hesitate, however, because crypto has been so tight lately I've barely been able to break even over the past two months. Them opening the microlimit games has killed me there. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Osric at June 5, 2005, 2:23 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | I hesitate recommending this, but if the hang up is going from 1/2 to 2/4 you might try getting on the crypto sites and playing the pound games. You will essentially be playing 2/4, but since everything LOOKS like 1/2, it isn't as big of a deal when you get into a pot.
I hesitate, however, because crypto has been so tight lately I've barely been able to break even over the past two months. Them opening the microlimit games has killed me there. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: IceNine at June 5, 2005, 2:16 am | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: I finally decided last night that I'd play a lil 2/4 on Interpoker even though I've had the roll for over 3 months. OMG, my heart has never beat faster than when I had 50$ pot I wasn't 100% sure I'd win. How the hell do you guys get over this feeling?
do it a few more times, and you'll look back at this post and laugh. seriously. gettng scared at a $50 dollar pot (even though that rush is awesome) is something that you cannot afford to do. I used to lose a $20 dollar pot ant i'd jump up and down cursing, now, i watch $300 go the other way and i shrug it off... it's all experience (unfourtunally, mostly bad experience when it comes to taking beats).
I am actually an advocate of taking shots at games that are not only above your normal limit, but above your bankroll... why? because you CAN afford to lose one buy-in, right? then you may as well find out how good you really are, by occasionally stepping up to limits that you aren't rolled for, if, and only if, you have eno... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Grinder at June 4, 2005, 7:43 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | LOL - THAT is the thing you have to get used to - sticker shock. Happens at every level. Happened when I went to 3/6. It's like I'm a total newbie.
All you can do is just think of it in big bet terms - not money!
HEY - I was in a 3/6 KILL game the other day with pocket 10s - HEART WAS POUNDING!!!
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| Posted by: phatlad at June 3, 2005, 10:17 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | I'm going through the same thing. I just jumped up to 1/2 from .50/1, even though I've had the roll since march.
It's all psycological. They say to look at is as BB instead of dollars. That, however, hasn't helped me. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hackmage at June 3, 2005, 8:51 pm | | Topic: Jumping levels... Forum: Bonus Whores | How the hell do you guys do it?
I finally decided last night that I'd play a lil 2/4 on Interpoker even though I've had the roll for over 3 months. OMG, my heart has never beat faster than when I had 50$ pot I wasn't 100% sure I'd win. How the hell do you guys get over this feeling? I understand I'm extremely risk averse for a gambler (still haven't done stickies, won't touch em til I got over 4k); but this is crazy, I've never been so scared that I wasn't a winning player. Then of course I play the Party 25 PL and NL games, so I guess 2/4 isn't all that much more risk. | | Static Link |
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