| Posted by: Cpt. Canuck at November 6, 2005, 1:02 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | I play $1/2 LHE. Since I'm always clearing a bonus, I look fo VPIP above 30% if I can find it (no lower than 27%), AND a pot average above the minimum needed to put toward clearing the bonus (if applicable).
As others have pointed out, I also like three or four players with VPIP > 35 or 40% and I love a maniac or two to drive up the pots. I don't mind putting up with one or two TAGs at the table and if I find myself involved in a pot with one, I tread carefully.
I play very aggressively and try to isolate players and play to their weaknesses (eg bullying the TPs). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at November 6, 2005, 1:10 am | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | | I look for high VP$IP as well as fish or calling stations that I have played against before.If I see some tight passives or rocks nowadays it doesn't turn me off as much;I mainly use Skalansky's concepts for battling the solid players. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Montana.T at November 2, 2005, 8:36 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | crypto and wagerworks have amazing tables reguarly over 40+.
Its hard to find a game under 40 on wager works .. it can get a llitte turbulant, but profitable
I played a 72% on WW yesterday .. 0.25PL holdem and seriously there was a 57% 5/10NL game on crypto (if only i had the roll)
I only wish put my more into WPT ..ial init bonus is PI$$ easy to clear and tables are great .. i am in poker heaven... oh and cash out was instant!!!
T.
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| Posted by: Osric at November 2, 2005, 4:02 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | When looking for a table to sit down at, I'm looking for at least mid 20s for VPIP. If I find one over 30, I consider myself lucky, and if by some grace of God there is one over 40%, I strap myself in for a bumpy ride.
Average pot I want to be at least 5BB, preferable 6 or 7.
Once I sit down and play a few orbits, I try to re-evaluate based on position and the stats of others. If I'm in a bad position and can get in another game, I try to get out and take another seat. I like to see one or two people with VPIP over 50 and a couple more in the 30-50 range. If there is only one person with a high VPIP and the rest are sharks trying to score off him, I bail. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Bud Selig at November 2, 2005, 3:50 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote: TAG's are a dirty word in a discussion on table selection
I've read a lot of books, but my best improvement in my game was analysing play in PT.
One thing no1 ever seems to mention in table selection is when to leave:
you join a table with a 67%plr/flp but 2 hours later your in a 31% game full of rocks, mice and damn fucking TAG's ... just leave .. there's another game with fish and maniacs around the corner.
T.
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| Posted by: Montana.T at November 2, 2005, 10:11 am | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | TAG's are a dirty word in a discussion on table selection
I've read a lot of books, but my best improvement in my game was analysing play in PT.
One thing no1 ever seems to mention in table selection is when to leave:
you join a table with a 67%plr/flp but 2 hours later your in a 31% game full of rocks, mice and damn fucking TAG's ... just leave .. there's another game with fish and maniacs around the corner.
T. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: RobDoral at November 1, 2005, 7:53 am | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | MyTurn2Raise wrote: Stay away from TAGS, but you'll always have to put up with a few.
Ok, what does TAGS stand for? I assume it's something about tight aggressive but I'll admit my ignorance. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: splat at November 1, 2005, 4:26 am | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | blosky2001 wrote: Thanks...I've been reading a bunch of books to play against different player types. I'm slowly learning the strategies for each. I tried being more aggressive vs the rocks and that didn't work so well but I'm adjusting.
Just out of curiosity, what books do you think have the best advice about playing different player types? I think I do a decent job, but a few extra pointers from the pro's couldn't hurt | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MyTurn2Raise at October 31, 2005, 6:20 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | blosky2001 wrote: Thanks...I've been reading a bunch of books to play against different player types. I'm slowly learning the strategies for each. I tried being more aggressive vs the rocks and that didn't work so well but I'm adjusting.
Slow down if rocks are calling, they're in there for a reason. Look at W$SD%. If it's low, value-bet these guys more often. If it's high back off.
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| Posted by: blosky2001 at October 31, 2005, 6:13 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | | Thanks...I've been reading a bunch of books to play against different player types. I'm slowly learning the strategies for each. I tried being more aggressive vs the rocks and that didn't work so well but I'm adjusting. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: MyTurn2Raise at October 31, 2005, 5:40 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | my 2 cents....look for fish, not table averages.
I made a killing this past weekend at the cryptos, despite the tight whores, by finding and isolating the fish.
Look for 2+players w/40%VPIP or 1 w/80% plus.
Find a maniac too and adjust accordingly. Anytime I see someone with PFR% higher than 20%...bingo.
Learn how to take advantage of the passives.
Study poker and look for tables with identifiable types of players....not just table averages. Stay away from TAGS, but you'll always have to put up with a few.
As Jonny Moxon said, "If we go out and half-ass it 'cause we're scared, then we'll always wonder if we were really good enough. But if we go out there and give it all we've got... that's heroic. You guys wanna be heroes?" | | Static Link |
| Posted by: solring at October 31, 2005, 3:00 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | blosky2001 wrote: Bonuses aside...I want to look for profitable tables but don't know exactly what to look for.
A table with one or more people that have a VPIP of 70%+. Ideally with four or more people with VPIP of 40%+. Pick your spots and ram-and-jam...
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| Posted by: blosky2001 at October 31, 2005, 2:33 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | | Bonuses aside...I want to look for profitable tables but don't know exactly what to look for. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: solring at October 31, 2005, 11:03 am | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | blosky2001 wrote: What VPIP do you guys look for in order to sit down? What other stats do you look at?
Depends on my goal for the site. If I'm playing an hourly bonus, then I don't care, but prefer tables with more people seeing the flop. If I'm playing a raked hand bonus, then I want a table with average pots of 5BB+.
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| Posted by: Grinder at October 30, 2005, 10:24 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | For LIMIT!!
My max low is 23% VPIP. Anything above that is fine.
PERSONALLY I think VPIP is a very poor judge for finding tables. For one thing Aggression is not factored. You can look at pot size because that has absolutely nothing to do with VPIP and is more aggression.
Post flop aggression is a good sign but you can not find that stat. I think the BEST stat is how often a player cold calls a raise but, again, hard to get a good idea on a limited amount of hands.
Sit down, play a few orbits and THEN decide. It's not like the old days where you have had to pay an extra $1 just for sitting AND pay the blinds.
There is no good way to select a table UNLESS you watch it for 2 or 3 orbits. But then you have missed playing poker for 20 minutes and if your a winner you missing out of $$.
As for PT question. I think that is a bunch of poppy cock! The higher the VPIP the better you do. period. YOU can tell if you are on a table that ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: blosky2001 at October 30, 2005, 9:38 pm | | Topic: table selection Forum: Bonus Whores | Normally I just get on the waiting list for any open tables at all poker sites. I figure it's about time I boost my BB/hand by being better at table selection. What VPIP do you guys look for in order to sit down? What other stats do you look at?
Also, I was reading the poker tracker tips posted by someone here on bet-the-pot.com and he mentioned:
"If you are not sure of what type of table suits you, then you can use PT to cross-reference good sessions against the relevant GTW to see what textures of table you do well at at which don't suit your style of play."
Does anyone know how to do this?
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