| Posted by: bartleby0101 at November 14, 2005, 3:00 am | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Burnout can be a problem, there is no doubt. Make sure poker isn't all you do. The problem with playing poker for a living is that at least for me is I start to say well I can't just sit here and watch tv, I should at least play a couple 1/2 tables to make 10 bucks while I watch the west wing if i break even. And if I'm going to play 2 1/2 tables why not play a sng as well. At that point why not play a multi as well since it wont take too much time during the first hour anyway (since I'm so tight the first hour) and then I'm in an all out poker session listening to the west wing in the background.
My problem lately is that I think of how much money I'm losing by doing something else rather than playing poker. I've put myself on a schedule though so hopefully I won't feel so bad about wasting time living my life. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: FeelingLucky at November 13, 2005, 4:25 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | I've gotten burned out by work, and wonder if playing poker full time wouldn't be a better solution
If I'd have to play enough to match my current salary (and part time poker income) though, it would probably require an effort level likely to burn me out all over again.
All I can say is, don't push yourself too hard. Whether it is at work, or at poker (if that is your work). It's simply not worth it, and recovering from severe exhaustion/burnout is no small process... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: todd at November 12, 2005, 8:56 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote: really interested in why u think 8hrs a day will burn me out?
It might not burn you out, but it's burned a lot of others out. Some of those others previously had a job with long hours that didn't burn them out. I'm not really sure why this happens. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Montana.T at November 12, 2005, 4:13 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | really interested in why u think 8hrs a day will burn me out?
dont want to burn ... i ve been a good boy ...... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Montana.T at November 12, 2005, 4:07 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | thx for the advice, i seem okay with the 8 hrs .. it was 23+ that was burning me out, my WR reduced after 8 too!
I dont tilt when playing in my bankroll any more, and since i shouldnt be playing out of it really, i shouldnt really be tilting so i guess i know im tilting when i sit at a bigger table
ive played too many hands now to get pi$$ed ata suck-out ... it happens both for and against me, and is just the game.
I figure if i stay in my BR and keep playing my game there is no need for m to tilt ... its when i lose $300 in one hand at 2/4 that the probs start ... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at November 12, 2005, 3:51 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Nope, pretty much the way it works. LOL.
You need to figure out what initiates your "tilt" - what the pressure points are. Once you identify them, you have to figure out how to avoid it like the plague. It was a lesson I learned hard, like everybody else, but I've learned to know when I'm at my "tilt" point and I actually will physically power off my PC before I do damage. (Although to be honest, once you've played enough you become more and more immune to that emotional frustration - badly played hands by your opponents are just opportunites to make notes for the 'next time'.)
Playing full-time isn't hard, but it is physically demanding - make sure you don't overextend yourself. 8+ hrs/day of poker playing is a recipe for severe burnout. I rarely play more than 6 myself, with the remaining parts of the day dedicated to reading forums, reviewing hands, or re-reading one of the many books I have laying around. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Montana.T at November 12, 2005, 3:12 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | what an interesting thread
Well im at my second week of playing poker more than full time (8hrs+).
I gotta say,im more tired than a week at a job ( i used to make computer games).
The concentration, energy and drive to play good poker consistantly is very tiring. To do well you have to be squueezing every $$, making those extra bets and laying down when ur beaten.
its getitng to the point where i know other players cards, and what they will do, im sure sometimes, before they even know themsleves!!
I broke one of my rules and went upto 2/4Nl and tilted out ....the additonal pressure of not having a supporting BR was too much .. lost $1K in a day
So grinding at 0.5 and 1/2 again now.
I didnt really expect anyone to say yes its an easy game ... the games mechanics are easy but the multi strategies. personal psychology and the ability to mind read ..are skills that have a mental and physical toll and thats before the "actu... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at November 10, 2005, 10:21 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Now that I'm a whore that plays 20 to 30k hands a month plus tourneys, there just isnt that same rush when you win a pot, or really even the frustration when you lose one.
That my friend is the key to trully elevating as a player.It took me as many hands as well to no longer be made at the fish who draw out,as well as not overcelebrating the pots I take down also. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: bartleby0101 at November 10, 2005, 5:34 am | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | I kind of miss the way poker used to feel to me before I was a whore. Sometimes I felt like a genius when things went the way they were supposed to, and an idiot after a few losing sessions in a row.
Now that I'm a whore that plays 20 to 30k hands a month plus tourneys, there just isnt that same rush when you win a pot, or really even the frustration when you lose one. I cashed in 6 $20 sng's in a row tonight at bodog, and it's just part of the game. I've went a week without cashing before in that sng.
Sometimes poker is as easy as breathing, but sometimes it seems to be like some foreign language to me during especially bad runs. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at November 9, 2005, 8:04 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | WhooFleuryScores wrote: Asking if poker is easy is essentially asking if taking girls home is "easy'.For some people they always know "their game selection" and "their limits" but for others this is a struggle and/or learning experience.
Is this deep or trite?
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at November 9, 2005, 7:45 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Asking if poker is easy is essentially asking if taking girls home is "easy'.For some people they always know "their game selection" and "their limits" but for others this is a struggle and/or learning experience.
But I'd have to admit Poker would be easier if the cards always came out great lol. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: elric at November 9, 2005, 1:40 am | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Grinder wrote: PLAYING poker is easy - winning consistantly is the hard part.
Doh!
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| Posted by: Cpt. Canuck at November 8, 2005, 11:53 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote:
so my question is:
IS POKER EASY?
I've wondered the same thing myself. I started playing in May, and within a month was winning at .25/.5 LHE. Of course, I spent hours reading books, online forums, and websites, but I was really surprised that I was actually winning. I thought, "hey, I'm new, everyone else HAS to be better and more experienced than me". But, I guess they weren't.
About two months ago, I discovered THIS site and began bonus whoring and it's changing my life. I expect to make over $1000 this month (Since I'm in Canada, that's over $1100 and its TAX FREE ).
As I've moved up in limits, I have found the competition to get fiercer as you would expect. And some sites, like Absolute, are a chore to play at because of all the TAGs there. However, I think poker IS easy at microlimits (.5/1 LHE and below) and I think I could show anyone with average intelligence how to win there.
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| Posted by: Cha Ngo at November 8, 2005, 10:46 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Asking if poker is easy is like asking if beer is good.
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| Posted by: HeelHo at November 8, 2005, 10:37 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | I always wonder which me was the better poker player. The old ultra tight ultra aggressive, the omaha rock, the grinder. I think your best poker comes when you are hungry for it. When I was recovering from a binge and playing 1-5 stuf with a few hundred in my pocket picking up drawing tickets, or on the last money I had grinding $5 SNGs at paradise to build a roll, I played the best poker. These days I just feel like a robot, but I know im safe so I am careless at times. But hey who was that mad poker genius who said, No one plays thier best poker all the time?
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| Posted by: Grinder at November 8, 2005, 10:31 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | PLAYING poker is easy - winning consistantly is the hard part.
I remember ditting down to my 1st BJ table and hyperventalating and I remember sitting in front of a screen - heart POUNDING plauing .5/1 Poker.
What a freaking rush. I think people forget what that felt like when they yell at some fish for hitting an inside straight.
Quote: achieving a perfect understanding of the game.
Odd - I've been playing online for 6 years and I ALWAYS think I'm better then I was 6 months ago. Illusion? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: todd at November 8, 2005, 9:54 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote: IS POKER EASY?
Yes and no.
For most people, it is not easy to do anything but lose money with poker.
For most readers of this forum, it is easy to beat low limit games but not easy to do any better than that.
For a lucky few, it's easy to beat very good players.
But there's one thing that's not easy (or even possible) for anyone: achieving a perfect understanding of the game. We'll all be learning for as long as we live, and there will always be situations in poker where we either aren't sure what to do or we are sure but shouldn't be (because our understanding is flawed). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Chas8020 at November 8, 2005, 3:30 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | [quote="Montana.T"]i also took howard leadermans advice [quote]
any advice that comes from the Instructor, Howard Lederman is gold.
is poker easy? sometimes its a joke how easy it is, but when everything goes wrong it sure ain't and every single player that has played for over a year has gone thru the sickest variance u can imagine. Now, axe yourself when u are going thru that, "Is it easy?".
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| Posted by: Montana.T at November 8, 2005, 1:01 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | LMAO
not cos of your posts ... but a few weeks ago .... when i looked at my game ... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: 2muchMONEY at November 8, 2005, 12:55 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote: it was hard for me to admitt to myself what an idiot i was Dont thank me. Im alway glad i can help
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| Posted by: Montana.T at November 8, 2005, 12:50 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | it was hard for me to admitt to myself what an idiot i was
but i am so glad i did .... i also took howard leadermans advice and forgave myself for all past and future bad plays and those of all my opponants .
sounds like hippy chit .. but try it ... you can feel the weight rise from your shoulders
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| Posted by: 2muchMONEY at November 8, 2005, 12:36 pm | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote: IS POKER EASY? Getting a girl is even more easy but... as long as you're not an idiot its not so hard to make money with poker
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| Posted by: Montana.T at November 8, 2005, 10:52 am | | Topic: is poker easy? Forum: Bonus Whores | Is poker easy?
I was wandering if people thought poker was easy .. i remember starting a few years ago, and playing my first game of poker online .... my first question when i sat down was "how many decks does this game use"
haha what a blert!
Prima was great back then .. just 500 or so people, the great capper, live poker, devilfish and chef ... the continual war with the PM's .. then the freezout, mafia chyte and missing money.......
anyhows back then i was continuallly scared and in awe at poker, everyone had AA ot Ak. i was constantly wandering how the best players allways seem to be catching winning cards
I was basiclaly a break even/losing player and played a little at all limits (NL) 5/10 max. But recently i find myself at tables behaving like the players i used to be in awe of.
Im even getting to think that poker is pretty easy (wait for my fall to earth in forthcoming post)
so my question is:
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