| Posted by: BigPoppa at January 7, 2006, 4:32 pm | | Topic: criticize this strategy Forum: Bonus Whores | Half-pot continuation bets when HU are pretty standard because they work. Just make sure your bets when you actually have a hand are the same size.
I generally am not raising someone who bets into a PFR unless I have either a hand or a very good read. This is especially true if you are not HU. In fact, am usually folding if the flop misses me and someone from EP bets into more than just me.
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| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 6, 2006, 8:50 pm | | Topic: criticize this strategy Forum: Bonus Whores | Early on when I started playing online poker, I had a fellow player observe my play. He pointed out that I need to make continuation bets in NL holdem if I make a sizable raise preflop and the game is headsup or max 3 players (including myself). That one tip had improved my game far more than any other tip I've gotten since.
Becoming involved with FTP though, and watching pros play, I see several pros failing to make a continuation bet over and over again. It surprised me at first because I win so many pots with continuation bets that I would not have otherwise (I shut it down at the turn if I get mortally wounded at that point), and I'm wondering what these guys are doing that I'm missing out on.
I watched Dags play Bonyadi the other day, Dags was almost always raising preflop and when the flop came he'd check/fold. I couldn't understand what he was doing because Bonyadi would bet pot almost everytime and Dags would fold. Bonyadi took Dags for about 60k in one sitting. Did anyone ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at January 6, 2006, 6:51 pm | | Topic: criticize this strategy Forum: Bonus Whores | In Limit Hold'em, continuation bets are practically *standard*. I make them 99% of the time - there are very few circumstances where it just isn't practical to do so.
In NL, since your entire stack is at risk all the time, continuation bets are little more normal/necessary, but not as required. Half to 3/4 pot is standard, but if you completely miss the flop and there are 3 people in, it's okay to just check too. Heads-up I'd rarely miss a continuation bet unless I knew the player was tight and was more likely than not going to nail me with a check-raise, or if the player was super-loose and was highly unlikely to let go of their hand on the flop, in which case the bet is just spewing.
I think elf23 is right, though - 3 or 4-handed, continuation bets are likely going to bleed your stack fairly quickly. Sometimes you just have to say "oh well, I'm going to let this go" and check/fold. Thing is, you have to sometimes check and then raise to keep them off balance enough that they don't... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: elf23 at January 6, 2006, 1:46 pm | | Topic: criticize this strategy Forum: Bonus Whores | If I catch a monster I'm usually betting into the pf raiser, hoping for a raise - that way it's hard to get away from my reraise. I think Doyle talks about a similar strategy in SS2.
You can bleed money through continuation bets though, especially 3 or 4 handed.
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| Posted by: DrStrange at January 6, 2006, 12:03 pm | | Topic: criticize this strategy Forum: Bonus Whores | Generally preflop raisers make a continuation bet, especially if they have the button - much as you have described. You will pick up a fair number of pots that way, you will also get a free card many times and when you are behind in the hand you will often be able to release your cards fairly easily. However, if you always make a continuation bet, the good players will take note of that and find ways to pick you off.
Most people who bet into a preflop raiser have a piece of the flop. Some folks even play monsters that way. In the low level games I play, very few folks have the guts to make a bluff postflop into the preflop raiser like that. So . . . . if you are going to make a reraise into that kind of bet expect a lot of variance. This isn't a cheap bluffing bet - the pot was raised preflop and then you are reraising a significant bet from a player who rates to have a hand. I'd expect you are making bet no less than 10X the big blind and often over 20X BB. Occational use of this again... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 6, 2006, 11:29 am | | Topic: criticize this strategy Forum: Bonus Whores | You are on the button and you raise preflop. Most fold and the game either comes down to headsup or 3 total players. You bet (or raise if someone makes a limp bet) on the flop either equal to or greater than the pre-flop raise regardless of what comes up with the exception of flopping quads or straight flush in which case you check/call.
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