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Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at January 26, 2006, 10:36 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Quote: get a job!

I did.....one that pays oh well $200 a day .And I have managed to begin rebuilding my BR and focus more on my game and not just the shortterm or bonus chasing(course it helps though).

And yes I did learn my lesson like Mike McD ......difference being that I hump my job during ok hours and for a better return than a lousy truck route at graveyard shifts.
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Posted by: elric at January 26, 2006, 1:34 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
porkrind wrote: elric wrote: porkrind wrote: Elric,
If Party Poker ever let you trade in your play money for McDonald's gift certificates all your problems would be solved. BTW, party poker hats require lots of salt and plenty of water......
I will have you know that I play in the highest play money ring games on the Internet. I am the high stakes play money player every poker room wants to attract. I use the Bill Fillmaff Secret System to maximize my EV. One day I will beat Fillmaff for the Worldwide Championship, then who will have the last laugh!

LOL, my lovely new wife just started playing on Party with a Play money account. She refuses to actually deposit until she is regularly beating PARTY PLAY MONEY PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After watching her reaction to a bad beat I am seriously considering an annullment. The sweet beautiful girl I married turns into a cussing, cheeto throwing, computer abusing venomous tilt monster. Every play money chip is like she is bet...
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Posted by: Alphaunit1 at January 26, 2006, 12:04 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
NOBODY can maintain that winrate, although I'm sure it was a lot of fun while it lasted. Sounds like the deck was cooperating with you, big time.

And to the previous comment about rake being higher - it is higher, yes, but not as high as you think relatively speaking. Also remember that your bonus earn rate is DIRECTLY proportional to the amount of rake being paid, and it is pretty much a wash. The more rake you are paying, the faster the bonus is clearing.
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Posted by: adampad at January 26, 2006, 11:50 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
PokerRoom is where I find myself making money more than anywhere else. I rarely play limit but I was clearing bonus there and decided to play 2-4. I went on a huge rush and won like $600 in 2-3 days playing 2-4. My win rate was a rediculous 17BB per hour or something. Maybe I was just rushing and hitting set after set but I am not that great of a limit player and can't seem to win very often at other places. Maybe my style fits better at PokerRoom. I tend to be pretty aggressive.
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Posted by: smoke1j at January 26, 2006, 3:52 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Heres some advice about playing Poker Room skins, DON'T PLAY 2/4 LIMIT. I'm not to sure how the 3/6 game is but I was faced with the same problem you were at all there skins. I have won at every other site but not here. I am currently finishing the Eurobet promotion and after losing 400 i decided to drop down to 1.2. The tables are very good and have manged to win back 250. The bonus clears really slow at this level, so i would recommend multi tabling 5 tables if you can. I normally do 3 so the hourly rate is only a bucks less but its better than beating yourself up over the losses. Again, personally I don't think its a bad streak because between here and some other forums i've seen post at this is a common thing at poker room skins. The rake is higher so that hurts ya some, the players are good but not really more so than any other site. Just ignore it drop down or move up, the only 2 levels I have won here are 5/10 and 1/2.
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Posted by: porkrind at January 25, 2006, 9:21 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
elric wrote: porkrind wrote: Elric,
If Party Poker ever let you trade in your play money for McDonald's gift certificates all your problems would be solved. BTW, party poker hats require lots of salt and plenty of water......
I will have you know that I play in the highest play money ring games on the Internet. I am the high stakes play money player every poker room wants to attract. I use the Bill Fillmaff Secret System to maximize my EV. One day I will beat Fillmaff for the Worldwide Championship, then who will have the last laugh!

LOL, my lovely new wife just started playing on Party with a Play money account. She refuses to actually deposit until she is regularly beating PARTY PLAY MONEY PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! After watching her reaction to a bad beat I am seriously considering an annullment. The sweet beautiful girl I married turns into a cussing, cheeto throwing, computer abusing venomous tilt monster. Every play money chip is like she is betting her last dime. It g...
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Posted by: elric at January 25, 2006, 7:42 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
porkrind wrote: Elric,
If Party Poker ever let you trade in your play money for McDonald's gift certificates all your problems would be solved. BTW, party poker hats require lots of salt and plenty of water......
I will have you know that I play in the highest play money ring games on the Internet. I am the high stakes play money player every poker room wants to attract. I use the Bill Fillmaff Secret System to maximize my EV. One day I will beat Fillmaff for the Worldwide Championship, then who will have the last laugh!
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Posted by: Mikke_ at January 25, 2006, 5:15 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
I posted in the other thread you started. I decided to not finish up the Party bonuses because I was feeling so negative about it still, and didn't want to give myself the chance to hit another downer.

So I thought I'd hit my first Casino, now that my BR is a bit bigger.

Sitting here with a bottle of wine, a BJ chart and music.

No thought, other than learning the plays, and listening to the music.

Chill time.
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Posted by: JPMcMoney at January 25, 2006, 5:00 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
I posted this in another thread, but will reiterate here, I am on a bad streak as well. I have played regularly for the last 2 and a half years and I have had my share of rough stretches, but this was the first one to send me over the edge and tilt and play VERY poorly. For those of you that played against NAMcMoney on party last night, your all welcome for the money I dished out. That was agift and I won't be generous like that again, I promise you that.

I think most of the good advice has already been given. Take abreak. Reevaluate your game and be honest with yourself. Fix any leaks you might have. DONT LOOK AT EACH SESSION INDIVIDUALLY, TREAT YOUR POKER CAREER AS ONE LONG SESSION! I caps this because this is what I lost sight of. Also, drop down a limit or 2 to get your confidence back. There is no shame in this.

Lastly, don't lose your confidence. If you have been a winning player for 2 years, you don't just "lose" it. Just make sure you are playing your bes...
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Posted by: porkrind at January 25, 2006, 10:47 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Elric,
If Party Poker ever let you trade in your play money for McDonald's gift certificates all your problems would be solved. BTW, party poker hats require lots of salt and plenty of water......
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Posted by: elric at January 25, 2006, 8:24 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
WhooFleuryScores wrote: Quote: At limit poker I always feel like I can't win a single freaking hand... I get Ace Ace and I am thinking great there goes 10 BB down the tubes.

No Limit poker rulz!

Come back to me after your AA loses to a set of 7's and 9's in a span of a week at a NL100 table when your bankroll is $850 with no job and let me know how you think it is compared to Limit.

But no I'm not bitter.
I too get my Aces busted by sets. I prefer to play NL25, but will move to NL50 or NL100 when I see a juicy game with monster pots. I can't see having no job and a bankroll under $100k. But I have lots of mouths to feed. So I have to keep my real job until I win a WPT or WSOP.
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Posted by: Reef at January 24, 2006, 11:53 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
um.. stop focusing on whoring and focus on improving your game?
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Posted by: TylerSalzman at January 24, 2006, 4:00 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
psumarkopolo wrote: Guys and gals,

Lately i have been on a bad run, and losing confidence in my game. While trying to clear off a 600 dollar bonus at eurobet playing limit, i just cannot seem to beat those games, they are so tight (26 27 28% of players seeing flops), and when i try playing a little more loose agressive things just get uglier. so i switched sites, and then went to the 200% RVP max 500 bonus, only to have the same thing happen. the past two weeks i am down at least 200 BB (5k hands...i know pretty freaking rediculous), and i just don't get it. Any thoughts suggestions...I am getting soo frustrated, and i am not even clearing the bonuses fast enough to break even at this rate.

NOTE: I have bene playing online for 2 years, and have never hit a streak this bad, and am wondering what others did to break out of it/realized how to play against a really tight table when whoring, and how to mix it up a bit.

Regards...

mark

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Posted by: IceboxCharlie at January 23, 2006, 6:20 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Been running bad since Dec.1st. Nothing works,it's either no cards or good cards that won't flop,or good hands that won't hold up. Are there holes in my game at this point? Probably. But it doesnt help when time after time you raise 4 or 5x bb preflop and get called by K3o and get beat. I've tryed limping and flopped top pair only to be beat by 2 pair like J's and 4's. I've punished the draw and had my ass handed to me by people who had the smallest pair on the board till the river.
I've taken some time off and played some tournies usually buying in with my player points. Strange but I've done well at Martins in SNG's buying in with my points.
I've got a ton of points at Absolute and I've been playing the tournies there. My last dry spell lasted just over a month and was over a year ago. I had forgotten what it felt like. It's not fun but I'll work thru it and then kick some ass!
btw I play NL holdem and PL omaha and some stud 8,hell I even tryed Soko and did better at that than anything else h...
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Posted by: Mikke_ at January 23, 2006, 2:44 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
londonenns wrote: WhooFleuryScores wrote: Quote: At limit poker I always feel like I can't win a single freaking hand... I get Ace Ace and I am thinking great there goes 10 BB down the tubes.

No Limit poker rulz!

Come back to me after your AA loses to a set of 7's and 9's in a span of a week at a NL100 table when your bankroll is $850 with no job and let me know how you think it is compared to Limit.

But no I'm not bitter.


get a job!


Good advice, because I wouldn't even play above 1/2 FL with $850.
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Posted by: londonenns at January 23, 2006, 12:59 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
WhooFleuryScores wrote: Quote: At limit poker I always feel like I can't win a single freaking hand... I get Ace Ace and I am thinking great there goes 10 BB down the tubes.

No Limit poker rulz!

Come back to me after your AA loses to a set of 7's and 9's in a span of a week at a NL100 table when your bankroll is $850 with no job and let me know how you think it is compared to Limit.

But no I'm not bitter.


get a job!
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Posted by: some random dude at January 21, 2006, 8:08 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
elric wrote: Limit Poker sucks. While I am sure its bound to happen playing No Limit I don't seem to have these long streaks of running bad. In fact playing No limit I seem to have these long streaks of running good... with the occasional running flat or slightly negative... and the rare running great where I am bullet proof and can't lose a big pot.

At limit poker I always feel like I can't win a single freaking hand... I get Ace Ace and I am thinking great there goes 10 BB down the tubes.

No Limit poker rulz!

I agree although i have downswings in NL those mostly happen in a short period of time, you lose a couple big pots but in limit the downswings often are long but slowly that is much more frustrating to me than losing a couple of big pots. Even if the net - of the downswing might be the same i prefer it happening in a short timespan than having several sessions where you just cant seem to win.
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Posted by: AmonRaa at January 21, 2006, 7:05 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Currently I'm on a small, but frustrating downswing. I'm still on positive side because of the bonus but I feel that bonus should be cleared in full AND get a profit from the play. Everything I do is wrong. If i fold with a second best pair, the other guy is bluffing. If i hit back, he has nuts. Flushes hit to boats or even straight flush. After i clear the bonus, I'm gonna take a few days break from poker and come back fresh.
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Posted by: zm_dawg at January 21, 2006, 4:39 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
yikes....playing $100NL on an $800 BR isn't probably the best idea....if it was a good idea losing those hands wouldn't seem like such a big loss.
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Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at January 21, 2006, 12:47 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Quote: At limit poker I always feel like I can't win a single freaking hand... I get Ace Ace and I am thinking great there goes 10 BB down the tubes.

No Limit poker rulz!

Come back to me after your AA loses to a set of 7's and 9's in a span of a week at a NL100 table when your bankroll is $850 with no job and let me know how you think it is compared to Limit.

But no I'm not bitter.
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Posted by: elric at January 20, 2006, 3:25 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Limit Poker sucks. While I am sure its bound to happen playing No Limit I don't seem to have these long streaks of running bad. In fact playing No limit I seem to have these long streaks of running good... with the occasional running flat or slightly negative... and the rare running great where I am bullet proof and can't lose a big pot.

At limit poker I always feel like I can't win a single freaking hand... I get Ace Ace and I am thinking great there goes 10 BB down the tubes.

No Limit poker rulz!
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Posted by: DrStrange at January 20, 2006, 3:09 pm
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
When I get on a bad run, first thing I check is why. Often times its my playing style, other times it is random bad luck but usually it is a bit of both.

Minus 200BB in 5,000 hands is far worse than bad luck if you are playing LHE. My z-normal tables only go down to .0002 and that run is more like .00005. Look over your hand data and find out what you are doing wrong. Looking at your post, it could be the playing style on these new sites is throwing you off.

I would adjust by cutting to single table play. Drop down levels only if playing single tables doesn't stop the poor play. When you drop levels you learn bad habits playing weaker folks - this may make matters worse at your old limits.

If the problem is an attitute problem, I find playing different games helpful. I went on a bad run for a few weeks last month and ended up playing O8 for the first time. That seemed to help me.

Persistance -=- DrStrange
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Posted by: BigPoppa at January 20, 2006, 11:24 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
If I'm running bad it affects my game and keeps me from winning even when the cards start hitting again.

I usually drop down in limits until I find a good game to beat, even if that means going from $3/6 to $1/2. I'd rather clear a bonus more slowly and turn a profit off my play than clear it quickly and lose money from play. I also sometimes switch to 6max if the full ring games are ultra-tight.
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Posted by: psumarkopolo at January 20, 2006, 10:15 am
Topic: So frustrated whoring... Forum: Bonus Whores
Guys and gals,

Lately i have been on a bad run, and losing confidence in my game. While trying to clear off a 600 dollar bonus at eurobet playing limit, i just cannot seem to beat those games, they are so tight (26 27 28% of players seeing flops), and when i try playing a little more loose agressive things just get uglier. so i switched sites, and then went to the 200% RVP max 500 bonus, only to have the same thing happen. the past two weeks i am down at least 200 BB (5k hands...i know pretty freaking rediculous), and i just don't get it. Any thoughts suggestions...I am getting soo frustrated, and i am not even clearing the bonuses fast enough to break even at this rate.

NOTE: I have bene playing online for 2 years, and have never hit a streak this bad, and am wondering what others did to break out of it/realized how to play against a really tight table when whoring, and how to mix it up a bit.

Regards...

mark
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