| Posted by: ratero at February 11, 2006, 12:54 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | I've seen a variety of different programs out there:
Holdem Analyzer Pro
poker office for texas holdem
PokerIndicator
PokerPro 3
PokerSpy
Texas Holdem Calculatem
Texas Holdem Spy
Power Poker Secrets - PPS Tracker V3.2
Are any of these worthwhile or are they just redundant?
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| Posted by: Osric at February 11, 2006, 9:55 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | ratero wrote: DrStrange wrote:
You will need poker tracker and a head-up display program to play several tables.
What do you mean by head-up display program?
A heads-up display program is something that will show your and your opponents stats overlaying on top of your poker software. So, while you are running Party Poker, for example, a program like Game Time + (which works with poker tracker), takes the stats from Poker Tracker and puts them in a little box next to each person's name.
This makes it very easy to identify who the fish at the table are, and maybe more importantly, who the sharks are. If you have a borderline hand and see that your main opponent is someone who only sees 15% of the flops and is very agressive, then it is much easier to fold if you know that this person likely has you beat. Conversly, you can see who the fish are who will probably call you down to the river with bottom pair on a regular basis.
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| Posted by: hofdaddy at February 8, 2006, 6:52 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | There's nothing worse than waking up and realizing you're late for your crappy life.
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| Posted by: Cha Ngo at February 5, 2006, 11:43 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | Osric wrote: oh...and while I'm thinking of it....
It is opportunity not oppertunity
And their refers to a person
There refers to a place
They're is a contraction of "They" and "are"
Whatever you do, stay in school.
Remember this sentence:
They're over there, by their car.
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| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at February 5, 2006, 11:04 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | am wrote: good advice guys but there is lots of money to made here. Bonuses are drying up so it is best to hit them as soon as your ready. I made lower-mid 5 figures in my first year of doing this shit.
Next year it may not be possible to hit that.
Also the time value of money. I'd rather have 30 k now then 30k next year.
I don't think there is one person here who would disagree that it isn't worth working on the different bonuses - but the advice being given in this thread is a direct answer to the "should I quit my crappy after school job and play poker instead" - and given the information the OP provided, there isn't a chance I would recommend it. I'd be hard pressed to recommend it to ANY high school age person, not even getting into the legalities of it. (18+ for most sites.)
Playing poker as a living (even a partial living such as the OP is looking for) requires a deep commitment to the game, and a decent amount of experience to be su... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at February 5, 2006, 8:37 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Soon enough you will be left to play much poorer bonuses. The bonus grid will give you some idea about this problem.
I can attest to that.I cleared just about every initial signup bonus out there and despite playing for 6-8 months I am still considered a losing player(despite bonuses keeping me somewhat ok).You will def find the days of the Party and Empire 7x,10x reloads will be few and further in between.
Quote: Whatever you do, stay in school.
That too.If if wasn't for my CIS degree and current job God knows how bad things would be going.
Quote: What stories would you have to tell when you get older if you didn't do the crappy jobs when you were a kid.
I agree here too.Rewards def come with patience.
Quote: You will need poker tracker and a head-up display program to play several tables. Together they cost less than $100. Get them as soon as your bankroll can take the hit.
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| Posted by: Osric at February 5, 2006, 5:57 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | oh...and while I'm thinking of it....
It is opportunity not oppertunity
And their refers to a person
There refers to a place
They're is a contraction of "They" and "are"
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| Posted by: am at February 5, 2006, 5:10 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | good advice guys but there is lots of money to made here. Bonuses are drying up so it is best to hit them as soon as your ready. I made lower-mid 5 figures in my first year of doing this shit.
Next year it may not be possible to hit that.
Also the time value of money. I'd rather have 30 k now then 30k next year.
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| Posted by: sjguppy at February 5, 2006, 10:45 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | Another point that is important. And I have seen if first hand. My son played a bit online but now sticks to games with friends or the Indian casinos. All his friends played online and lost money. One was up $1500 and lost it all in one night by moving up to 10-20. Reason, young people don't think strait. They believe they are invincible. They don't have the diciplline that comes with age. This is one of the reasons that you can't gamble in casino's until you are 21. You also don't have enough money to withstand a losing streak and will be more prone to tilting.
Yes, a couple of you will tell me that you have been winning since you were 15. And I believe it. You are the few. For the rest, play low limit until you become a good player. Do not rely on the bonuses to make you money. Long term, learning to play good poker will keep you in the money but there is no guarantee how long bonuses will be around. Play the low limits that you are comfortable with and have fun. And don't quit your job. What s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Osric at February 5, 2006, 9:54 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | porkrind wrote: Freerolls...................................
Zero risk, decent payout per table hour and valuable poker experience.
uggg....I HATE freerolls. To each his own, I guess, but best advice I've seen so far is from Alphaunit1. Play as a hobby to start and build your bankroll and your stakes. If, in a year, you still like it and are able to play at a higher level, then you can revist the question.
I've been playing for about 2 years as a whore. I make enough to pay the mortgage and build up some vacation fund money, but I still play mostly at the 2/4 level and below (just now starting 3/6 again.) If you have specific goals in mind, it is easier. 1K/month is doable, but probably not at the .5/1 level. Grow that bankroll and get into some of the 1/2 games after your roll is over 1K so you can clear bonuses faster and see if you can play at a higher level.
Also, get Poker Tracker. This will eliminate the need to take detailed notes on all the player... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: porkrind at January 31, 2006, 4:43 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | Freerolls...................................
Zero risk, decent payout per table hour and valuable poker experience.
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| Posted by: Lloric at January 31, 2006, 12:09 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: There is some good advice in here, but I'll try to give it to you as straight as I can (and this is coming from somebody who is making their living doing this):
Don't.
You don't have the bankroll to manage this succesfully. You are playing at stakes far too low to be able to turn a good profit for the hours you are going to be putting in, nor is it really solid training ground for the higher limits (something you will find as you move up - the higher limits are tougher - $1/$2 is a far tougher game than .25/.50 or .5/1). You can't multitable by your own admission, which is another serious issue that will directly impact your earn rate.
Your current earnings are heavily biased by the fact that you are clearing signup bonuses - which are by far the most lucrative of all bonuses. The best signup bonuses will dry up very quickly for you at the stakes you play, which leave you with only a few scattered reloads and mostly your own play. If you were able... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at January 31, 2006, 12:01 pm | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | There is some good advice in here, but I'll try to give it to you as straight as I can (and this is coming from somebody who is making their living doing this):
Don't.
You don't have the bankroll to manage this succesfully. You are playing at stakes far too low to be able to turn a good profit for the hours you are going to be putting in, nor is it really solid training ground for the higher limits (something you will find as you move up - the higher limits are tougher - $1/$2 is a far tougher game than .25/.50 or .5/1). You can't multitable by your own admission, which is another serious issue that will directly impact your earn rate.
Your current earnings are heavily biased by the fact that you are clearing signup bonuses - which are by far the most lucrative of all bonuses. The best signup bonuses will dry up very quickly for you at the stakes you play, which leave you with only a few scattered reloads and mostly your own play. If you were able to earn a completely unsu... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: elf23 at January 31, 2006, 3:07 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | also, make sure you still enjoy poker after 50k hands or so. I love the intricacies of the game, but only because I play on the side, for fun.
I would hate it worse than any brainnumbing crappy job I've ever had (and I've had quite a few) if I had to play 1-2 thousand hands a day 5 days a week for anything more than a few weeks.
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| Posted by: DrStrange at January 31, 2006, 1:30 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | To begin lets assume that you are 18+, if not there WILL come a day when a poker room will ask for proof of identity and then you might have a serious problem getting your money out.
Your first few sessions as a whore will mislead you about the income potential from bonus whoring. The sign-up bonuses are rich and usually clear faster then the reload bonuses. Soon enough you will be left to play much poorer bonuses. The bonus grid will give you some idea about this problem.
http://www.bonuswhores.com/bonus-grid.php
Also you will find that many bonuses need to be cleared at higher limits. Your bankroll will need to be carefully nurtured - bad runs will happen no matter how good you are. If you are going to make 1K / month you are going to need a bigger bankroll.
While it is possible to make a large income playing single table at high limits, it is not easy to do that at the lower levels. It might not even be possible unless your win rate is quite good. Practica... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Nicorette87 at January 31, 2006, 12:10 am | | Topic: How much oppertunity is their... Forum: Bonus Whores | I'll just start off by saying i'm a high school student and I have a part-time job which I make about 700$ a month. I cant stand this job and want to leave. Now...I was wondering is it possible for someone at my limits to make around 1000$ CAD or more a month. This is what ive done so far...
In 2 weeks
Casino.Net (125$ Initial Deposit- 271$ Leaving: 100$ Bonus, 46$ Winnings) limit 0.25-0.5$
Total Poker (100$ Initial Deposit- 170$ Leaving: 100$ Bonus, -30$ Losings) limit 0.25-0.5
Paradise Poker (250$ Initial- 350$ Leaving: 50$ Bonus, +50$ Winnings) limits 0.5-1
Winnings: 66$
Bonus: 250$
Total 316$
I've cashed out a little to put my bankroll at 500$ even. The thing is I tend to get smoked when I multitable. I can't keep player notes on more than one table and I tend to just get distracted. Any suggestions on how I could maybe improve my hourly rate? I know its probably way to soon to tell what kind of poker player I am but any help would be appre... | | Read Entire Entry |
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