| Posted by: elric at February 22, 2006, 10:48 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | wyldchyld wrote: My friend, bad streaks happen to us all. Coping and rebounding is what separates the winners and losers in the long run.
Bad Streaks? Just use my stuff method!
I throw stuff, break stuff, smash stuff, crush stuff, bash stuff, destroy stuff and smack stuff till I am outta stuff.
Then I go back to playing aggressive angry mad man tilting online poker.
(Err I usually throw in a quick trip to the computer store to buy a new laptop since the old one is now broken stuff.)
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at February 21, 2006, 8:57 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | wyldchyld wrote: My friend, bad streaks happen to us all. Coping and rebounding is what separates the winners and losers in the long run.
Since I read about saying something like 'Good hand/well played' etc. etc. after that last suck-out (Mike Caro?), I am almost scaring myself about how calmly I can take the bad beats.
Works for me anyways.
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| Posted by: wyldchyld at February 21, 2006, 8:44 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Total Annihlation, Command & Conquer Red Alert series, or my all time favrorite Alien blaster: Wing Commander.
Ah the good old days of computer games...
My friend, bad streaks happen to us all. Coping and rebounding is what separates the winners and losers in the long run.
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| Posted by: londonenns at February 20, 2006, 11:34 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: Attitude is huge. If you are in a downswing, stepping back and performing honest self-reflection (HONEST!) about how you are playing is critical. If you are tilting or playing sub-optimally, admit it to yourself. And sometimes it really is "just the cards". I've gone through 2-3 week periods (I play professionally) where I could do no right... losing to suckouts so bad I wanted to scream. But I sat back, reviewed what I was doing - realized that I was playing fairly well, but making some dumb mistakes out of frustration - and stepped away for a couple of days.
I think having a number of sites to play at helps - when I'm really getting my ass kicked at one site, I like shifting to another to hopefully get a winning streak going. Sometimes it's the new look, sometimes its the new players - whatever it is, it helps me feel better about what I'm doing, and that is critical.
completely agree
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| Posted by: Cha Ngo at February 19, 2006, 3:04 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | I have been running bad the past couple of months. I found this article:Dalla article. Seems reasonable.
Liked this one too:losing streaks
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| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at January 31, 2006, 12:12 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Indeed. If your bankroll is not capable of sustaining a 200-250BB slump at $5/$10, then you need to move down. You should never be playing at a level where nominal and normal losses will be devestating to your ability to play. To give you an idea, I've had $5/$10 FR sessions this week where I played optimally (after review), and still lost $500. Reality is that sometimes you just get hit with back-to-back-to-back losses from ugly suckouts, and remaining patient and avoiding going on tilt are the only way you can manage to work through those rough patches.
I also recommend that if you have taken several really tough beats and your table image is fairly tattered from the losses, you might be better off just leaving the table and finding a new one. I've found over time that sometimes when you seem to be a fairly large loser at a table that people will start taking shots at you, and if you aren't catching cards to trap them, you can really struggle.
So I guess I'm saying you really ne... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at January 30, 2006, 7:37 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Any advice on dropping down or not would be appreciated.
If you're in a tight spot where you're relying on your roll for income I would advise dropping down.I would consider mastering either SH Hold Em or FR if you find that you can't comfortably sustain long periods at high stakes Stud.I take it you alread bonus chase and get rakeback so that def helps.Also try to shop around for the best lower limit loose games to help pay your bills until you are in a position like mine where your roll and playing time are for improvement and not income.[/quote] | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at January 27, 2006, 12:08 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Follow up question. I havent been playing 5-10 for very long and I have had moderate success at best. .7BB/100. However I feel pretty strongly that I can beat the majority of the 5-10 games I play. ONly reason BB is so low is for runs like the previous post, seem to always have 1 per session. While my roll is ok, it wont be able to stand a substantiated period of turmoil at 5-10. Should I drop down in limits or keep pluggin away here wating for the "longrun we all speak of to come about (when my 93-7 fav can win a few hands). The main problem I'm facing is that FLHE is by far not my best game. I have best sucess at stud 8 but dont have the roll to play at big limits any more after paying off student loans exct. Any advice on dropping down or not would be appreciated. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at January 26, 2006, 11:52 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | | just had the worst 2 hour run of my short poker career so far at the 5/10 SH on poker room. Sad thing is played the ebst poker of my life. In the span of 30 minutes lost with AA to 10-3 (3 on river after capped turn) AA to JQ (gutshot str8 on river) KK to Q7 (this time on turn so not as bad) and with AQ to 33. Flop was 2QQ, turn 10, river 3. Sorry for the rant. just letting u guys know I'll be coping with you tonight. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: IceboxCharlie at January 23, 2006, 6:50 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Someone mentioned Wolfenstein. Great game I played the first two,are there any more? Also Doom on God mode with the BFG works wonders. There are times when you just feel like killing something and computer generated aliens is probably a good choice.........damnit.
Should have been the moron that called my all in last night in a tourney.We were 13 places from the money,I'm short stacked with 900 (never saw any cards) had AQs decided it was time to push or go home. He calls with 1/5 of his stack with K6o.Huh?what? Yup he ends up with a set of K's knocking me out.
You're 13 places out of the money and you call with 1/5 of your stack with that? I would pay real money to know what he was thinking.or was he?
Let me see,your're that close to the money you got a short stack at your table,the game plan should be to knock him out and not let him double up or contain him till the blinds get him. I just wonder about some of these players sometimes,but it seems they always get their miracle hand against me.... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at January 18, 2006, 10:54 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: you don't need to evaluate those decisions. you just have to remember that since poker is gambling, you do NOT control what cards will be dealt.
I think Mike Sexton said it best "Poker is about making the right decision".
Remember-when your opponents make mistakes and call without odds or the weaker hand you make money.If the fish never won they'd all quit and play a game where they had a chance like war or something. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: porkrind at January 15, 2006, 7:15 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | The latest John Tesh album,
a Tony Roberts audio book,
the Hour of Power Live from the Crystal Cathedral,
c all mom,
burn some mood candles,
throw lawn darts at a picture of Bill Clinton while smoking a Churchill,
Punch the vodoo doll of my boss,
Go to work-bypass internet blocks-post on BW using above bosses logon,
Read old posts from Jim Morrison,
See if an M-80 will destroy that stupid WSOP stress ball my new wife got me for Christmas,
Then I suck it up review my hand histories and wonder what the heck was I doing in that hand in the first place.................. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at January 15, 2006, 2:06 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | why must you roll your shit into another thread. PM's are here for a reason. Take it there
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| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 15, 2006, 12:51 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | "the tide will turn"
what insight.
Mikke wrote: So don't make trite remarks about an unrelated thread.
Uh, you brought up pot odds and your disagreement with my thread here;
http://www.bonuswhores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=18093
Mikke wrote: You obviously made additions to your last post while I was replying.
Lies.
This has nothing to do with this thread. You're trolling here for something you didn't like on the other thread.
Mikke wrote: Read all of your posts again - and then sum up your positive contribution to the forums - for the forum, and not for yourself.
I could but it's pointless, the forums do not exist so that I may come to them and provide positive input.
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at January 14, 2006, 11:55 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | sillypuppy wrote: You took something you didn't agree with and brought it to a completely unrelated thread to flame me personally. The discussion I'm having here with people has absolutely nothing to do with the bone you have to pick about an entirely different thread.
yes, please go away.
Read page 1 of this/your thread. I contributed positively to your cause.
So don't make trite remarks about an unrelated thread.
Non-person or not to me, I had to make that reply to your most recent post so that you may sometime realise that the world doesn't revolve around your orbit.
Edit:
You obviously made additions to your last post while I was replying.
Edit 2:
Read all of your posts again - and then sum up your positive contribution to the forums - for the forum, and not for yourself.
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| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 14, 2006, 11:29 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | You took something you didn't agree with and brought it to a completely unrelated thread to flame me personally. The discussion I'm having here with people has absolutely nothing to do with the bone you have to pick about an entirely different thread.
Mikke wrote: But you are now a non-person in my life.
Why?
Because I decided so.
Cya.
Does that make you feel STRONG and POWERFUL?
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at January 14, 2006, 10:06 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | sillypuppy wrote: Mikke, what you're doing right now is trolling. STFU
My first Mod Notified post.....
Do I say thanks or STFU you too?
No idea - not happened before.
I read all the new posts I have contributed to in the past.
I also read nearly all the poker forum and OT posts.
Therefore I have read most of your posts I guess since you signed up.
Therefore I do see a lot of stuff, and I have seen that you seem to like to ask a lot of q's relating to odds and so on, but have a very strong opinion about your own beliefs - you seem to be challenging other members of this site to go against your opinions.
If you think I am trolling you, then you are just reinforcing the opinion I have of you.
I am a relative newbie here, but I don't think you will find anyone much milder than myself who has been around for the last 6 months or so.
But you are now a non-person in my life.
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at January 14, 2006, 7:58 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | sillypuppy wrote: I agree gerk, I was just wondering if there is some angle I'm missing.
For example, is it wrong to commit all of one's chips when you have the nut hand on the flop, but it may not be the nut hand on the turn and river?
Are you just trying to start odds arguements SillyPuppy?
SillyTrollPuppy?
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| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 14, 2006, 6:36 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | I agree gerk, I was just wondering if there is some angle I'm missing.
For example, is it wrong to commit all of one's chips when you have the nut hand on the flop, but it may not be the nut hand on the turn and river? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: gerkshz at January 14, 2006, 7:16 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | OP, when you're in another level of super bad luck like the one you're in, remind yourself this:
POKER IS GAMBLING.
do not kid yourself. do not forget about this.
you made ALL the right calls in the hand histories you gave us. i would've done the same thing and probably 90% of all poker players would've made the same calls that you made! you don't need to evaluate those decisions. you just have to remember that since poker is gambling, you do NOT control what cards will be dealt.
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| Posted by: bellringer at January 8, 2006, 5:01 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | I just play high....that way im emotionaless pretty much...if for some reason i get really mad though i just load up halo 2...kill some ppl. smoke another bowl and im good again.
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| Posted by: Loke at January 8, 2006, 11:43 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | solring wrote: tornan wrote: i just haven't had a losing month in almost a year. I think bonuses will always have my back so that i never lose.
If you count bonuses as part of your winnings, then that's (mostly) true. I track my poker winnings/losses separately from any bonuses earned, so that I have a better gauge on my skill as a player.
Bonuses are just gravy...
You can't count bonuses as winnings or losses. They are profit, yes. But if you are playing constantly for $100 bonuses and cashing $50 out of the site, you did NOT have a winning month. You had a profitable month. But overall you were a losing player. It's fairly important to understand the difference if you ever intend to become an even remotely adequate payer.
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| Posted by: solring at January 8, 2006, 10:41 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | tornan wrote: i just haven't had a losing month in almost a year. I think bonuses will always have my back so that i never lose.
If you count bonuses as part of your winnings, then that's (mostly) true. I track my poker winnings/losses separately from any bonuses earned, so that I have a better gauge on my skill as a player.
Bonuses are just gravy...
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| Posted by: Montana.T at January 7, 2006, 9:57 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | im so glad people helped you puppy,
amazing what a few strangers on the net can do for your confidence .....
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| Posted by: todd at January 7, 2006, 4:46 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | tornan wrote: i just haven't had a losing month in almost a year. I think bonuses will always have my back so that i never lose. Thats all i meant.
That's fairly normal if you play mostly at $1/2 and below. What most people mean is that occasionally you'll have a bad run from the poker alone (before bonus money is added). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 7, 2006, 3:12 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | just ride it tornan, I had consistantly winning games on a daily basis for over a year. My mistake was I took it easy because I wanted to revel in the victory instead of risk my winnings. I learned early that was a big mistake.
To the topic at hand;
I see the light!
I hit a 1/2 cash game just for some variety, to change things up. I had a good run and doubled up my money at the table.
With a bit of confidence I went back to my SNGs. The first one was going horribly. I got a beat right off of the bat. It wasn't too bad but still hurt. Then I played really tight, and got to see a free flop with J2. Flop comes J-7-2 rainbow. Everyone checks, I bet half my stack. Everyone folds except for a short stack who pushes all in (not much more). Of course he had J-8o and hit an 8 on the turn. I started to come unglued. Then I remembered what alpha was saying, and to laugh the beat off. The lesson with the aces helped because I realized I could get this guy to commi... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: tornan at January 7, 2006, 12:15 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | i have had some bad sessions...but this is not what you mean right?
i just haven't had a losing month in almost a year. I think bonuses will always have my back so that i never lose. Thats all i meant. I also have had an amazing 2.5 month run im still on that is absurdly good. Still not sure if I just got better or if its a lucky run like no other.
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| Posted by: tornan at January 7, 2006, 9:27 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | swings? what are those?
The last time i hit a bad down swing I became a bonus whore. Havent seen one since Feb. 2005. I know you will all think im full of shit, but if you have good poker skills and good whore skills and good bow-staff skills, you can NEVER lose. At least I haven't for 11 months in a row now. Just look at my motto below. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TheJourneyman at January 7, 2006, 3:45 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | phatlad wrote: coloradoholdem wrote: Alphaunit1 wrote: Attitude is huge.
I admit I didn't read the whole thread - yes I am that lazy but I saw this while browsing and it reminded me of the job I had while in college. It was at a restaurant and the owner was incorporated as AME Inc. which stood for Attitude Means Everything. Which is so true.
Indeed.
But offing a few hobos also helps as well.
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| Posted by: phatlad at January 7, 2006, 3:31 am | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | coloradoholdem wrote: Alphaunit1 wrote: Attitude is huge.
I admit I didn't read the whole thread - yes I am that lazy but I saw this while browsing and it reminded me of the job I had while in college. It was at a restaurant and the owner was incorporated as AME Inc. which stood for Attitude Means Everything. Which is so true.
Indeed.
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| Posted by: TheJourneyman at January 6, 2006, 8:16 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: Attitude is huge.
I admit I didn't read the whole thread - yes I am that lazy but I saw this while browsing and it reminded me of the job I had while in college. It was at a restaurant and the owner was incorporated as AME Inc. which stood for Attitude Means Everything. Which is so true. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: sillypuppy at January 6, 2006, 7:56 pm | | Topic: how do you cope with the downswing? Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana and Alpha you guys are right of course.
Alpha you pointed out something that I didn't even realize; about getting 2 players to commit all of their chips when I had the best hand. I was so blown away by the beat I didn't even consider that good poker had still been played. If I can miss that myself, then you're right I'm not playing at optimal level.
I'll take you guys' advice and break for a few days. Thanks a bunch for your help. | | Static Link |
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