| Posted by: ChawkDee at July 18, 2006, 2:23 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | I think it must be another ChawkDee.
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| Posted by: zOrO2k5 at July 18, 2006, 1:14 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | For Limit Hold'em: first, read and understand (Winning Low Limit Hold'em) by Lee Jones, play 1,000 hands, then go for (Small Stakes Hold'em) by David Sklansky.
i think this is the best way to learn how to play good Limit Hold'em.
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at July 6, 2006, 3:09 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Phil's book is ok if you're a beginner but alot of it is just to get you into the proper mindset of tight/aggressive.Eventually you do need to read Skalansky and a couple others in order to figure out a style that fits you best. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Montana.T at July 6, 2006, 7:36 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | thomashobbes21 wrote: to be honest im not crazy about any of the books out there to much. When I first started to play I read theory of poker and holdem for advanced players. At that point I was playing .5-1 holdem and felt the best way to beat the games was to see as amny hands as possible and create my own strategy. I find there are to many players who play hands by the book and are very beatable. For all i know, I may have learned the game of limit sooner had I tried Small stakes holdem and others; however, perhaps the rapid pace I have moved up on limits is due to the fact that I dont play by the book and can adapt my style at times. Sure the books will say its important to vary your play, but I find you learn this lesson a lot better, when you say o shit im getting killed I better learn to vary my play.
Whats your avergae session length, thomas?
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| Posted by: moo321 at July 6, 2006, 2:27 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | mike_m235 wrote: Be sure to read helmuth's book by the toilet. And flush it with the rest of the crap.
Agreed. My understanding is he is a losing cash game player; why the fuck would we take his advice on cash games? His tournament advice is another story. He wins with what he calls "supertight" play, which is folding tons of hands, and preserving your stack in a tournament, which can often be correct. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at July 4, 2006, 1:07 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | | to be honest im not crazy about any of the books out there to much. When I first started to play I read theory of poker and holdem for advanced players. At that point I was playing .5-1 holdem and felt the best way to beat the games was to see as amny hands as possible and create my own strategy. I find there are to many players who play hands by the book and are very beatable. For all i know, I may have learned the game of limit sooner had I tried Small stakes holdem and others; however, perhaps the rapid pace I have moved up on limits is due to the fact that I dont play by the book and can adapt my style at times. Sure the books will say its important to vary your play, but I find you learn this lesson a lot better, when you say o shit im getting killed I better learn to vary my play. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at July 4, 2006, 12:09 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | In my order:
1) Internet Texas Hold Em
2) Small Stakes Hold Em
3) No Limit Hold Em Theory and Practice
4) Middle Limit Hold Em
5) Any of the WPT books. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: myqul at July 2, 2006, 11:35 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Chawkdee - been on the same tables as you at prima (assuming its the same Chawkdee).
Have seen you playing junk like A-rag and bottom pair. Mate, you gotta stop doing stuff like that or even crap players like me will take all you money.
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| Posted by: EZ at July 1, 2006, 8:55 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Cpt. Canuck wrote: ChawkDee wrote:
I read one by Phil Helmuth which helped this beginner a lot.
That was the first book I read, too. At the time, I was playing .25/.5 FLHE. The book gave me terrrible advice for that limit. I tried to follow it and lost all the time. His 'animal types' are the only thing I remember from that book.
Be careful following it's advice if you're playing small micro-limits.
i read that same limit chapter of his and already new it wouldn't work at my limits. perhaps it may have worked at the old crypto 1/2 tables...lol | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cha Ngo at July 1, 2006, 1:08 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Have there been any groundbreaking poker books published since the last three threads with this topic?
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| Posted by: mike_m235 at June 29, 2006, 5:54 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Be sure to read helmuth's book by the toilet. And flush it with the rest of the crap.
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| Posted by: RobDoral at June 29, 2006, 5:08 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Cpt. Canuck wrote: ChawkDee wrote:
I read one by Phil Helmuth which helped this beginner a lot.
That was the first book I read, too. At the time, I was playing .25/.5 FLHE. The book gave me terrrible advice for that limit. I tried to follow it and lost all the time. His 'animal types' are the only thing I remember from that book.
Be careful following it's advice if you're playing small micro-limits.
Yeah, if memory serves, Helmuth advocates making a lot of raises preflop with marginal hands relying on table image (mostly HIS table image because OMFG, he's Phil Helmuth) to allow you steal a lot of pots (or disguise your hands a bit). But at the lowest limits it doesn't really matter if you only raise your premium hands because players will call anyway and you might as well get as much as you can in the pot to help pay for the inevitable suckouts. Raising with small pairs and suited aces in early position works a bit better at limits like 5/... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Cpt. Canuck at June 27, 2006, 8:32 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | ChawkDee wrote:
I read one by Phil Helmuth which helped this beginner a lot.
That was the first book I read, too. At the time, I was playing .25/.5 FLHE. The book gave me terrrible advice for that limit. I tried to follow it and lost all the time. His 'animal types' are the only thing I remember from that book.
Be careful following it's advice if you're playing small micro-limits. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at June 27, 2006, 11:31 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | moo321 wrote: Harmonica wrote: Hi
Moo what do you exactly mean when you say that the NL Hold em section is out of date?.
Thanks
Doyle Brunson's original style was designed for a times when people only played big pairs and big cards. His style was basically to over-bet the pot constantly, usually when he hit a big pair, but sometimes with open straight draws (he basically invented the idea of playing suited connectors.) But, these days if you go over-betting the pot by 10 times, you won't make a profit, because people will start calling you down (especially online.) Brunson is probably a lot better than most of us at reading people too. Even Brunson doesn't play this way any more.
If im not mistaken, this is actually the perfect strategy according to game theory. Ive tried it a few times with limited success, but if you have ever seen spirit rock play back when he used to crush the nl games, that was his style. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: moo321 at June 27, 2006, 11:12 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Harmonica wrote: Hi
Moo what do you exactly mean when you say that the NL Hold em section is out of date?.
Thanks
Doyle Brunson's original style was designed for a times when people only played big pairs and big cards. His style was basically to over-bet the pot constantly, usually when he hit a big pair, but sometimes with open straight draws (he basically invented the idea of playing suited connectors.) But, these days if you go over-betting the pot by 10 times, you won't make a profit, because people will start calling you down (especially online.) Brunson is probably a lot better than most of us at reading people too. Even Brunson doesn't play this way any more. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: myqul at June 27, 2006, 3:19 am | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | Also my preference for sites to pratice strategy (am practicing SSHE strat at mo.) as well as whoring bonuses are the prima skins because the rake only has to be .25c so you can practice on .25/.50c tables (and even .10/.20c if there a very high flop percentage) with minimal risk to bank roll whilst building said bank roll
Plus prima has several x5 bonuses which are easy to clear and can be done on one or two tables e.g. did wild jack ($50 bonus) in about total of 20hrs two tabling - think most of the other seasoned whores advocate not multi-tabling beyond 2 tables if your a newbie, which i agree with.
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| Posted by: moo321 at June 26, 2006, 9:51 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | | Supersystem 1 and 2. NL holdem part is out of date by 30 years, but you'll learn a ton about every kind of poker available. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at June 26, 2006, 9:39 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | ChawkDee wrote: What are the best poker books available for playing Limit low levels online?
I read one by Phil Helmuth which helped this beginner a lot.
I think I'm onto the next level now, any suggestions?
Are there any good sites/reading material online?
Gah. Phil's book gives some of the worst advice for limit Hold'em imaginable. I'm sorry, it's flat-out terrible.
I recommend two books to a Low Limit Player, in the following order:
1) Lee Jones's "Winning Low Limit Hold'em"
2) Ed Miller's "Small Stakes Hold'em"
Some people will disagree with me on #1, but let me explain why. You sound like a relatively new player. Phil's book has definitely given you some fairly "meh" advice. Lee Jones's book will get you into a fairly solid starting hand strategies, how to play postflop in a variety of different situations, and get you used to the rhythms of the game. The advice it provides is sometimes classified as &... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ChawkDee at June 26, 2006, 8:05 pm | | Topic: Best Poker Books? Forum: Bonus Whores | What are the best poker books available for playing Limit low levels online?
I read one by Phil Helmuth which helped this beginner a lot.
I think I'm onto the next level now, any suggestions?
Are there any good sites/reading material online? | | Static Link |
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