| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at July 31, 2006, 11:23 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | | come check out FT right now. Juana and Vaswani are playing HU 1000-2000 limit O8. Each guys is sitting with 100k and its a good time to learn. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at July 31, 2006, 3:42 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | Here's what I play:
1) Any hand containing 4 ten point cards (Tens, Jacks, Queens, Kings, Aces) as long as you do not 3 of a kind of any (for obvious reasons).
2) Any Ace and 2 wheel cards (i.e. 2, 3, 4, 5).
3) Any Ace-3 as long as the other 2 cards are either Ten point cards (A-3-J-T, A-3-K-Q, A-3-Q-T etc...) OR the Ace is suited suited to one of the cards and the other card is a Ten point card (A-3-xs-J, A-3-T-xs)
4) In LP you can play 2-3-4-x, 2-4-5-x, etc.....don't play this upfront though.
5) Be careful of naked A-2-x-x hands when your other 2 cards are not in coordination (such as A-2-7-9o, A-2-9-Jo) as you have no counterfeit protection and little backup high potential. A naked A-2-x-x hand like A2sKTs plays alot better, or say A2sAKs.
6) Be wary of naked AA likewise(duh).
7) Avoid hands that contain alot of mid cards such as 7-8-9-T, 6-7-8-9, etc... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Savnnah at July 31, 2006, 7:44 am | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | I got the hollywood hands to download with a patch. After looking at the data it appears the big pairs AA and KK are profitable, but playing hands containing QQ and down were not. AA2, AA3, AA4 went down value compared to pot limit, but were still very profitable. I also did well with the low hands A2, A3 suited, A4 suited, and even A5 suited was slightly profitable. I did good with lage connectors also. My thoughts are that the mid straights and small sets are were I am losing my money. With a mid straight and two suites it is about 50/50 that you will hold the nuts from the turn to river. So on the flop you are in real trouble. The smaller sets seem to get beat out by straights, flushes or top two pair filling up. Poker room took the most rake when compared to Party and Paradise. Position didn't seem to have much importance as stated above, but I lost money in both blinds.
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| Posted by: moo321 at July 31, 2006, 2:26 am | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | First I would add that position is much less important in limit hi-lo games. In fact it's quite unimportant compared to no-limit holdem or pot-limit hi omaha. I think it's quite alright to play any a2 suited from any position. I would also play a lot of a3 suiteds, as long as the other cards are coordinated. You can definitely get in with some high only hands in late position as well.
However, you want to limit your high only hands to be things like 10 J Q K, or A K Q J, or maybe KKJQ, but not hands where your straight will make someone else's low, like 8 9 10 J. My personal belief is that straights are big losers in limit omaha games, because it has 9 cards, so a hand like 8 9 10 J is going to lose a lot to a flush, or a bigger full house (imagine a board of 9-9-j-k-a). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BCsparky at July 31, 2006, 12:08 am | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | Cha Ngo wrote: heelho wrote: Stars 2/4 is tough as well.
Yes.
Some of those games only have 60% seeing the flop.
Which Pokerstars are you playing on?
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at July 30, 2006, 11:40 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | Just be careful with the nut low.Shorthanded be careful with the second nut low(gazooks).
And don't be afraid to call 2 all ins on the flop when you have the nut flush draw and an open ended straight draw. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cha Ngo at July 30, 2006, 2:56 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | heelho wrote: Stars 2/4 is tough as well.
Yes.
Some of those games only have 60% seeing the flop.
PLO8 = implied odds.
LO8 = nut hands with redraws to nut hands.
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| Posted by: tom218 at July 30, 2006, 2:50 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | One thing I can add is not to multitable. At least in my case I always miss some backdoor flush or gutshot when I try to play too many tables.
Categorizing opponenets is also very much needed-keep notes about who is aggressive and who only bets the nuts.
If someone really knows how to play this game a they haven't talked yet. No book I've read really holds a candle to the top 7-8 hold em books as far as teaching you how to play correctly.
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| Posted by: HeelHo at July 30, 2006, 2:48 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | ongame lobbies have an option to enable statistics. click it and they write to HD< PT finds them, you may also want to look into turbo by wilson software, or another hand runnerouter. plug in hands from those situations and run them out. answering for yourself works better than being told.
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| Posted by: Savnnah at July 30, 2006, 2:40 pm | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | Thanks for the help. I have been keeping up with my stats on poker tracker for Paradise and Party, but can not figure out how to get my hand histories for Hollywood Poker. I tried emailing them but they didn't know. If you flop a hand with a lot of outs and someone bets in front of you should you reraise to get more money in the pot or call as not to drive anyone out of the pot. It is kind of hard to drive anyone out at .50/1 they seem to call any way, but it may thin out a call or two. Also on my stats for Paradise I have a small loss playing A2 and a big profit on my big pairs. On Party it is reverse. about 2000 hands combined. Do you still call in limit with A2 and two small cards on the flop with no chance at high. I have been doing this in limit were I don't do this in PL.
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| Posted by: HeelHo at July 30, 2006, 11:25 am | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | | Its a tough read on how to win at limit hilo. You have an amazing plethora of rock garden limit games on the internet. I generally struggle at 2/4 hilo at absolute, having to take in bonuses and merchandise to win at it. Stars 2/4 is tough as well. Party 2/4, paradise 1/2, absolute 1/2(and the .5/1 can be juicy), and pacific are places I find I can win 1-2 bb/100s pretty easily. Youre going to have to judge the game up front. Is this a game where I get multiway pots or 2-3ways. In multiway pots, youre going to look to raise only when it maximizes the size of the pots. The other, you have to thin the field. Where the difference is going to come is your by street Agg factor(refer to PT for that). In a thin the field type game you are going to have high agg factors all the way. Mostly youre going to push aa and bigger pockets from later position. Youre going to lay down a lot of a2 hands , even things like a24q if you cant raise with position. In a multiway game, youre going to have a low in... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at July 30, 2006, 9:19 am | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | | In fixed limit O8 the you are going to have your biggest sessions when you with with gutshots. What you are looking for is a situation where you have the nut low and at least 3 outs to scoop the high. There are generally enough weak players that will pay you off wiht second best of both and make for a profitable sessions. The Key is getting as many bets in as possible with a made low and some draw for a high. Lets say the flop is 3-4-K and you are sitting with and A-2-5-6, thats where you make all of your money. sure it can come 10-9 and you lose to top set but by betting the shit out of that flop you are gettnig paid off. Then if and 2-5-7 hits you can scoop a massive pot. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Savnnah at July 30, 2006, 8:44 am | | Topic: Omaha H/l limit vs pot limit Forum: Bonus Whores | | I find in pot limit people will call raises with subpar hands and in the long run you can make a lot of money off this situation. I do well at pot limit, but strugle with limit. I mostly play .50/1 and 1/2 in the limit variety. What is a good strategy for this limit. In pot limit I feel I can raise to play my hands that play well with few oponents and bet my draws, bluff and take down pots. In limit it seems to hard to reduce the number in the pot and people don't get punished much for making bad calls. So many people call that it seems like even a gut straight draw is profitable to call. I have caught myself thinking the same thing only to hit my straight on the turn and loose to a flush or full house on river. By the time the pot gets to the end I know I am probally beat, but the pot is so big I figure whats one more bet and I pay them off. I am a break even player now and looking to improve my limit game. Any limit experts out there with some advise. I also wonder with so many people calling ... | | Read Entire Entry |
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