| Posted by: IceboxCharlie at August 9, 2006, 3:31 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | I can't afford Pokertracker after paying for my new custom tin foil hat. It's got bling!
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| Posted by: Pokeraddict at August 9, 2006, 11:11 am | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | HeelHo wrote: Pokeraddict (BW Support) wrote: IBC, buy Pokertracker Omaha. You will see what will happen in the long term, not just one session. Keep all your hh's saved and you can import them all. Then report back to us.
THats perhaps the nicest diss reply Ive ever read.
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| Posted by: HeelHo at August 9, 2006, 6:52 am | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | Pokeraddict (BW Support) wrote: IBC, buy Pokertracker Omaha. You will see what will happen in the long term, not just one session. Keep all your hh's saved and you can import them all. Then report back to us.
THats perhaps the nicest diss reply Ive ever read.
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| Posted by: Pokeraddict at August 8, 2006, 10:26 am | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | | IBC, buy Pokertracker Omaha. You will see what will happen in the long term, not just one session. Keep all your hh's saved and you can import them all. Then report back to us. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at August 7, 2006, 8:33 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | Here are some decent AAxx hands based on official Turbo/Bill Boston/Excel spreadsheet fomulas:
1) A2sA3s
2)A2sA4s
6)A3sA4s
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| Posted by: IceboxCharlie at August 7, 2006, 5:52 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | PokerAddict I don't use poker tracker, but I have an extremly good memory for cards for some reason. Strange, I could'nt tell you what I had for breakfast, but I can tell you a hand I played six months ago. I agree that AA23 suited is a really good hand, but there are a lot of other AAxx hands too.
Let's say you have AA23. If the flop is all high then your nut low is shot. One of your aces is suited so you have a possible flush. The odds of hitting a set which probably won't win are slim unless you boat because if there are even three other players in the hand, then one of them for sure has an A. That only leaves you a one outer to flop a set and possible boat.
You can say AAxx is a great hand, but you still need the correct flop. Without it you don't have much. This is at lower stakes, now if you're playing 2/4 or higher then you have a much better hand. The problem at lower stakes is that you can play your hand perfectly, but when you have at least 4 or 5 people seeing the flop, you're probably ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pokeraddict at August 7, 2006, 4:01 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | | Can you post your Pokertracker stats that show that you are a loser with AA23 double suited? This seems impossible and if you are losing with that hand you must have serious leak in your game and likely have no winning hands at all. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: IceboxCharlie at August 7, 2006, 4:21 am | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | Yea I know A2A3 suited, double suited is a great hand and some of the other AA hands. The thing is, without fail it's not a winning hand for me. Getting a lot of Omaha hands with AAxx means a crappy night for me. Over two years of playing and thats one thing I've noticed. I've also noticed in stud hi/lo a 9 on 4th means it's going to be a long night.
I would like to see some stats for those hands and see if it's just me.
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at August 5, 2006, 3:39 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Any of you guys got stats on how often AxAx suited,double suited wins in PLo8? I very seldom win with that hand.
Try to play AxsAxs when the x is a wheel card (and hopefully not duplicated). If you have say A4sA5s this is ok; just make sure you are not chasing second/third low without a high.AxsAxs otherwise is still ok; but more often than not that means you are shooting for high only (or some high flush with boat draw).
So a hand like A7sA9s is going to be a flush/Top Set hand all the way
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| Posted by: IceboxCharlie at August 4, 2006, 7:49 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | Any of you guys got stats on how often AxAx suited,double suited wins in PLo8? I very seldom win with that hand. In fact when I start getting a lot of those hands, it's usually always a clue that I'm going to have a bad night. I've almost gotten to the point of folding them preflop. Yea I know that sounds stupid, but that hand has cost me a lot of chips with very little return.
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| Posted by: smak at August 3, 2006, 4:50 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | My favorite hands are 3 low cards with an A and one high card. With the Ace and hopefully the high card suited.
I've made the most money against a donk with a wheel, when I have an A26 with a 345 board
It also gives you a price to stay in when you flop a broadway draw.
I hit a big hand the other day when i had something like A35Q, and the flop waws KJ2, and it came 46 on the turn and river. There are a lot of cards that help you on that turn.
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| Posted by: Cha Ngo at July 21, 2006, 5:57 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | WhooFleuryScores wrote: I would prefer to do so on either the button or CO (course if the Ace misses and there is heat on the flop be prepared to release it).
Naturally.
The golden rule in PLO8 (as in life) is DON'T BE A DUMBASS.
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| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at July 21, 2006, 1:16 am | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | my poker career in a nutshell. anyways here is a good example of how to play a hand and how not to (see winner)
PokerStars Game #5629275587: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/07/21 - 04:01:06 (ET)
Table 'Vala' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jj300rmw ($339.50 in chips)
Seat 2: spacemandave ($268.50 in chips)
Seat 3: daggur ($113 in chips)
Seat 4: funnybook ($193 in chips)
Seat 5: painterman9 ($425.50 in chips)
Seat 6: hero ($371.50 in chips)
jj300rmw: posts small blind $2
spacemandave: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Ah 7h Ac 2h]
daggur: folds
funnybook: calls $5
hero: raises $5 to $10
jj300rmw: calls $8
spacemandave: calls $5
funnybook: calls $5
painterman9: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [3h Kd 4h]
jj300rmw: checks
spacemandave: checks
funnybook: checks
painterman9: bets $5
hero: raises $5 to $10
jj300rmw: calls $10
spacemandave: folds
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| Posted by: moo321 at July 20, 2006, 1:41 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | In limit games (high only) I am starting to stay away from middle cards, even good ones like 6789, because most of their value comes from straights, which are often outdrawn in Omaha (because it's a 9 card game). But pot-limit, these hands become more playable, because you can actually take down a pot.
I still think playing hi-lo as a pot limit game is just weird. It goes from being a game where position is relatively unimportant (compared to hold'em) to a game where position is everything, probably even more important than in high only omaha. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: BCsparky at July 20, 2006, 12:52 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | WhooFleuryScores wrote: Quote: I like 2x3y4zKx in pot limit. If an ace_x hits and you have the nut-low and nut flush draw life is good.
I guess an argument could be made for playing such a hand;although I would prefer to do so on either the button or CO (course if the Ace misses and there is heat on the flop be prepared to release it).
Quote: I also play any range of hands like 3-4-5-6 or 4-5-6-7 because if a wheel board comes I have tremendous quartering abilities for a higher striaght.
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These hands go up in value in PL providing you get in cheap
A2xx with no suit goes down in value in PL. You must play it very carefully, including mucking just nut low draw on the flop with significant action and tight opponents.
Hands like A27J , A26T no suit don't play that well in raised pots in PLO8 against tight opponents.
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| Posted by: TylerSalzman at July 19, 2006, 11:08 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | thomashobbes21 wrote: I would stay away from hands like 7733. Best case scenario you your set and then you are playing for half the pot. Lets say the flop is A27. What are you going to do. There is very little chance that you complete a 7 low and it holds up so discount half the pot. There are alose 20 cards that can come which scare you to death. If a 3-5 hits you may have to let your set go if you dont fill and a 6 or 7 will give someone an open ended. Whats worse when they hit there open ended with the nut low you are going to get stuck in the middle for several bets on turn and be forced to call. 10-10-J-J is much safer but I really like hands like 3344. I also play any range of hands like 3-4-5-6 or 4-5-6-7 because if a wheel board comes I have tremendous quartering abilities for a higher striaght.
You're right, that was a bad example for a hand
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at July 19, 2006, 10:51 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: I like 2x3y4zKx in pot limit. If an ace_x hits and you have the nut-low and nut flush draw life is good.
I guess an argument could be made for playing such a hand;although I would prefer to do so on either the button or CO (course if the Ace misses and there is heat on the flop be prepared to release it).
Quote: I also play any range of hands like 3-4-5-6 or 4-5-6-7 because if a wheel board comes I have tremendous quartering abilities for a higher striaght.
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| Posted by: Cha Ngo at July 19, 2006, 8:51 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | I like 2x3y4zKx in pot limit. If an ace_x hits and you have the nut-low and nut flush draw life is good. In limit I am pretty ABC.
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| Posted by: thomashobbes21 at July 19, 2006, 11:56 am | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | | I would stay away from hands like 7733. Best case scenario you your set and then you are playing for half the pot. Lets say the flop is A27. What are you going to do. There is very little chance that you complete a 7 low and it holds up so discount half the pot. There are alose 20 cards that can come which scare you to death. If a 3-5 hits you may have to let your set go if you dont fill and a 6 or 7 will give someone an open ended. Whats worse when they hit there open ended with the nut low you are going to get stuck in the middle for several bets on turn and be forced to call. 10-10-J-J is much safer but I really like hands like 3344. I also play any range of hands like 3-4-5-6 or 4-5-6-7 because if a wheel board comes I have tremendous quartering abilities for a higher striaght. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: TylerSalzman at July 18, 2006, 11:26 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | WhooFleuryScores wrote: I've been playing O8 a bit more seriously the past few weeks and have been slowly going through the learning curve. Some thoughts I had so far on favorite hands:
1) Obviously A2sA3s-nut low with counterfeit protection, 2 nut flush draws, Top Set, Possible Top Boat/Quads?, and possible straight flush draw.The A3s allows for a possible 6 high flush and possible 3/4 pot/scoop potential.I also find I have been getting better at relasing a naked low draw with no high backup/or making sure I don't chase runner runner low/overplay low when facing heat.
2) Any combination of 10 point cards (eg Tens or higher) esp double suited/connected such as AKsJTs or AKsQJs etc......easy to release on a low card flop and possible 1/2 of a big pot if 2 or more villains get into a raising war on the turn/river with a naked low and no high.Not often you get quartered with Broadway; and when you do make your flush you're taking half for sure (with hopefully 2/3 low drawers pumping... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at July 18, 2006, 11:11 pm | | Topic: Favorite O8 hands and why....... Forum: Bonus Whores | I've been playing O8 a bit more seriously the past few weeks and have been slowly going through the learning curve. Some thoughts I had so far on favorite hands:
1) Obviously A2sA3s-nut low with counterfeit protection, 2 nut flush draws, Top Set, Possible Top Boat/Quads?, and possible straight flush draw.The A3s allows for a possible 6 high flush and possible 3/4 pot/scoop potential.I also find I have been getting better at relasing a naked low draw with no high backup/or making sure I don't chase runner runner low/overplay low when facing heat.
2) Any combination of 10 point cards (eg Tens or higher) esp double suited/connected such as AKsJTs or AKsQJs etc......easy to release on a low card flop and possible 1/2 of a big pot if 2 or more villains get into a raising war on the turn/river with a naked low and no high.Not often you get quartered with Broadway; and when you do make your flush you're taking half for sure (with hopefully 2/3 low drawers pumping the pot/calling your well timed... | | Read Entire Entry |
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