| Posted by: Danieljeans at October 20, 2006, 1:35 am | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | There won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So you got that goin' for yourself, which is nice.
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| Posted by: jack.duck at October 19, 2006, 11:41 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | Danieljeans wrote: mike_m235 wrote: TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
Mike Do you take drugs?
Every day
Good. Then what's your problem?
I don't know
A flute without holes, is not a flute. A donut without a hole, is a danish.
And i say hey lama, hey, how about a little something, ya know, for the effort, ya know
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| Posted by: Danieljeans at October 19, 2006, 11:29 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | mike_m235 wrote: TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
Mike Do you take drugs?
Every day
Good. Then what's your problem?
I don't know
A flute without holes, is not a flute. A donut without a hole, is a danish.
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| Posted by: JPMcMoney at October 18, 2006, 1:04 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | jack.duck wrote: JPMcMoney wrote: FWIW, my numbers for the last 59,000 hands (5 months) are as follows:
NL100: 8.79 BB/100 (mostly poker room, fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
NL200: 5.13 BB/100 (mostly fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
JP
are the rates PTBB/100, or just regular big blinds/100? if they are the PTBB/100 i find this really impressive.
They are PTBB/100. Bear in mind that I have played these limits for almost 2 years and almost 200,000 hands and also, I would admidt that I have been running well, not too many Bad Beats in that span. If you add in all of my numbers from the start, including my rough strtch at the beginning of the year and my first foray into those limits, the numbers would be based on about 180k hands and would probably drop to about 6.5 and 3 respectively. I went through a PC change earlier in the year and did not keep my old PT stats, but based on my memory, that would be my best guess if you i... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 18, 2006, 9:32 am | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | jack.duck wrote: JPMcMoney wrote: FWIW, my numbers for the last 59,000 hands (5 months) are as follows:
NL100: 8.79 BB/100 (mostly poker room, fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
NL200: 5.13 BB/100 (mostly fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
JP
are the rates PTBB/100, or just regular big blinds/100? if they are the PTBB/100 i find this really impressive.
It's impressive either way. Consider that at 2 PTBB/100 at NL200, when you four table and add in bonus, you're talking $20-$25 an hour minimum. You can't live off it, but it isn't bad.
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| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 18, 2006, 9:19 am | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
Mike Do you take drugs?
Every day
Good. Then what's your problem?
I don't know
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| Posted by: jack.duck at October 17, 2006, 10:11 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | JPMcMoney wrote: FWIW, my numbers for the last 59,000 hands (5 months) are as follows:
NL100: 8.79 BB/100 (mostly poker room, fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
NL200: 5.13 BB/100 (mostly fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
JP
are the rates PTBB/100, or just regular big blinds/100? if they are the PTBB/100 i find this really impressive.
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| Posted by: TheJourneyman at October 17, 2006, 10:07 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | mike_m235 wrote: TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
Mike Do you take drugs?
Every day
Good. Then what's your problem? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: JPMcMoney at October 17, 2006, 8:29 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | FWIW, my numbers for the last 59,000 hands (5 months) are as follows:
NL100: 8.79 BB/100 (mostly poker room, fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
NL200: 5.13 BB/100 (mostly fulltilt, pokerstars and cryptos)
Also, I usually 4 table, but use PT and Gametime+ religously. My VPIP and PFR are about 22% and 7.5%. Also, this all full ring play, but I used to play alot of SH as well, but my results just seemed to come in lower with SH so I switched back to full ring 5 months ago. My goal is to go back to SH in 2007 and work on that part of the game again.
Don't know if this was the type of stuff you were looking for, but it's where I am at currently.
Also, I know alot of players continue to move up in limits as they prove they can beat the current level they are at consistently. I, however, haven't moved up in a year and a half, mainly because my bankroll doesn't really grow. My promise to the wife is the winnings go to fun exciting things to do with her (travel, etc.) s... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 17, 2006, 6:19 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | hawgman_dan wrote: mike_m235 wrote: However many tables, 100 hands is 100 hands. And 4 PTBB/100 at NL200 is a good rate for full ring. I don't know what a good rate is for 6 handed since I don't play it enough.
If you're worried about it crippling your roll, you shouldn't play it. Because you can't play optimally if you are worried about things like that. Play the level you are comfortable with, move up when you can afford to do it without worry.
I understand ur point about playing scared. I guess my real question how much can u make per hour at each level. Ive only been playing 6 months and was just curious as to how much a good player could make at the higher NL..... 4bb/100@200NL~ $12/hr (1 table) or $36/hr (3 tabling).
4PTBB/100 is around $35-$40 an hour at NL200, before bonus, if you are four tabling. Obviously that rate depends on how many hands you are getting in at each table. It's a tough rate to sustain over time, but it can be done.
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| Posted by: hawgman_dan at October 17, 2006, 6:03 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | mike_m235 wrote: However many tables, 100 hands is 100 hands. And 4 PTBB/100 at NL200 is a good rate for full ring. I don't know what a good rate is for 6 handed since I don't play it enough.
If you're worried about it crippling your roll, you shouldn't play it. Because you can't play optimally if you are worried about things like that. Play the level you are comfortable with, move up when you can afford to do it without worry.
I understand ur point about playing scared. I guess my real question how much can u make per hour at each level. Ive only been playing 6 months and was just curious as to how much a good player could make at the higher NL..... 4bb/100@200NL~ $12/hr (1 table) or $36/hr (3 tabling). | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 17, 2006, 5:53 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | TheJourneyman wrote: mike_m235 wrote: By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
Mike Do you take drugs?
Every day
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| Posted by: TheJourneyman at October 17, 2006, 5:31 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | mike_m235 wrote: By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
Mike Do you take drugs? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 17, 2006, 5:28 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | However many tables, 100 hands is 100 hands. And 4 PTBB/100 at NL200 is a good rate for full ring. I don't know what a good rate is for 6 handed since I don't play it enough.
If you're worried about it crippling your roll, you shouldn't play it. Because you can't play optimally if you are worried about things like that. Play the level you are comfortable with, move up when you can afford to do it without worry.
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| Posted by: hawgman_dan at October 17, 2006, 5:02 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | | So at 200NL u have to play very good to get $16/100? Is that for one or multiple tables? So far Ive made more than that at 50NL (only 6000 hands, 6 max, single table). But even if DrStrange is right and u can only expect to win $10/100 at 50NL, it doesn't seem like much incentive to move up considering the increased risk (better players, bad week crippling my roll). Would it be more profitbale to try learn to multy table NL50 or move up single tabling? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 17, 2006, 3:36 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | By height.
Bonus points if you get that reference.
A lot of times you'll see poker tracker BB (which is 2x the BB in NL) expressed as PTBB/100.
If you can do 4 PTBB/100 sustained at NL200 (which is 8 BB per 100 hands) then you're playing very well.
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| Posted by: HeelHo at October 17, 2006, 12:57 pm | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | dont forget PT icons. I have 6 different PR aliases in the DB and a different icon for each. Making me wonder about PT.
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| Posted by: DrStrange at October 17, 2006, 9:37 am | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | Results are often expressed as BB/100. However there is much confusion about what "BB" means in NL.
Your Poker Tracker results are expressed in BB/100 where BB = 2x the big blind.
PAHuD uses BB/100 where BB = the big blind.
I think 10x the big blind per 100 hands is quite doable at higher levels. At NL25 and NL50 I think even 20x the big blind per 100 hands is sustainable.
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| Posted by: hawgman_dan at October 17, 2006, 9:15 am | | Topic: How do you measure success at NL Holdem Forum: Bonus Whores | | I think u still use bb/100. The differnce is the amount u should win. While 2-3bb/100 is good at limit, u can win 10-15bb/100 at the lower NL tabels (NL25 & NL50). I dont know what is doable at higher limits but I would like to know. | | Static Link |
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