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Posted by: Pinos at March 7, 2008, 4:58 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
GB, time to change your avatar, i came now in march just to see new avatar
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Posted by: GoldBoar at February 22, 2008, 7:21 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
I'm not trying to be a d*ck, because English might not be your first language.

You need to slow down and try to write better. Reading your post was painful.
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Posted by: run187 at February 22, 2008, 5:10 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Sorry didnt realise that was my frist post im sure i had made other
Guess it must of been some elaborate dream i had ..
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Posted by: run187 at February 22, 2008, 5:08 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
I did quite well on full tilt no so long back by my standards anyways
Think i made like 500 quid from a dollar freeroll win cashed about 300
Thought i tried find another site i licked before depositing any form of serious Money so just used some of winnings to play other sites
Im still yet to find one that dosent annoy me in some way ..
I see people make like 120 dollars in ommaha hi lo in5/10 cent games after
In about ten minutes just from total bingo leave wait the required amount of
Blinds come back do same over n over there making money but bingo
And hit n run not really poker that is it and the miracles they hit
Every hand some0one 92 percent to win they hit 4 card flush on board with
There monster 27 or they bet any ace regardless or if they playing the Donkeyfish fav game omaha hi lo any card under a 5 insta raise
They get low cards in hand k2k comes they got a3 they raise hit 45 tnr
And yet other player then say nh or nice play to them . <...
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Posted by: ckmj23 at February 8, 2008, 2:07 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
rickjr82 wrote: I made 35k over about 3 years ending with 18k in 2006(running about 15ptbb/100 3-4 tabling 6 max).

PT Screenshot or it didn't happen.


Slightly OT, but this guy took a prop bet to turn $5 into $1000 in 7 days.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=676
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Posted by: rickjr82 at January 14, 2008, 6:44 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
I never build a serious bankroll so I stayed at the $25nl, but I made 35k over about 3 years ending with 18k in 2006(running about 15ptbb/100 3-4 tabling 6 max). I played almost entirely on the party skins and bodog. I would think it is much more efficient to build up a bankroll and play some of the bigger games, but i never could have the discipline to keep my money in.
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Posted by: wilkinru at January 11, 2008, 1:28 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
clearly depends on the site and promos.

ive gotten freeroll money on 4 different networks, enough to where i had at least $100 in the end.

FT is really hard to win freeroll money on, true enough.

bodog, doylesroom, ultimate bet, AP.

Maybe im just a pro at building stacks...btw up to $500 now...time to try $20 games on FT. wish me luck
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Posted by: koko333 at January 11, 2008, 10:35 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
pooterguy wrote: koko333 wrote: Jesus did this on FT. Well, he supposedly started with freerolls and moved up from there to the micro-limit tables and on up. He had rules that he had to maintain that where tied to how big his bankroll was. He was showing players that it is possible to go from freerolls to a 10K bankroll.

Yeah, but it took him 6 months to scrape up enough freeroll money to buy in to a $1 tourney. After that, he was a juggernaught of course. Just shows that even a top-tier pro needs a generous dose of luck to beat an ocean full of freerolling donkeyfish.

Amen
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Posted by: pooterguy at January 10, 2008, 11:07 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
koko333 wrote: Jesus did this on FT. Well, he supposedly started with freerolls and moved up from there to the micro-limit tables and on up. He had rules that he had to maintain that where tied to how big his bankroll was. He was showing players that it is possible to go from freerolls to a 10K bankroll.

Yeah, but it took him 6 months to scrape up enough freeroll money to buy in to a $1 tourney. After that, he was a juggernaught of course. Just shows that even a top-tier pro needs a generous dose of luck to beat an ocean full of freerolling donkeyfish.
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Posted by: wilkinru at January 10, 2008, 6:30 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
GoldBoar wrote: The thing to remember is that Ferguson had the skills to move up stakes as his roll grew. I may be able to "afford" NL200, but I certainly can't play there.


yeah thats my goal for the SNGs...see how far I can go before I cannot beat them.

I suppose its possible that I can beat them all, but honestly a $2000 buyin scares me. The money does matter.
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Posted by: GoldBoar at January 10, 2008, 5:32 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
The thing to remember is that Ferguson had the skills to move up stakes as his roll grew. I may be able to "afford" NL200, but I certainly can't play there.
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Posted by: GoldBoar at January 10, 2008, 5:32 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
The thing to remember is that Ferguson had the skills to move up stakes as his roll grew. I may be able to "afford" NL200, but I certainly can't play there.
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Posted by: wilkinru at January 10, 2008, 5:28 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Interesting, i've done about the same thing.

FT's freerolls are hard to get any cash going. I started with doyles site when they had free 9 man tourneys and for a win you got 5 cents. I did this until I had a buck then moved up from there....bonus whored, omaha hi/low and SNG my way to around $4000

Recently I fixed my friends PC and I told him to pay me by betting on my college team, but he only had FT money so he gave me $25 there (it wasnt much of a fix). Anyway I am up to $350 right now....but this time im being more aggressive.

I'm currently doing $10+1 SNGs and earning there, which is more than double than i did in my previous runs.

Really all it takes is being a winning player.

I enjoy moving up...it's just like a mmorpg for me. $25? play the $2 sng, get to $60? play the $6 sng, get to $240? play the $10 sng, get to 400? play the $20 sng...etc.
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Posted by: mike_m235 at December 1, 2007, 3:05 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Where you run into issues is that some sites charge a higher percentage of rake on micros then they do on regular games (full tilt, for one.)

I took $25 and turned it into more than $10,000. So it can be done. But that was a long while ago when the climate was better.
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Posted by: Pokerdogg at November 26, 2007, 12:55 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Don't forget Jesus didn't do it with any bonuses or rakeback.

Didn't Annette_15 do the same, started with freeroll? Now her bankroll is impressive from what I gathered.
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Posted by: yedemirc at November 25, 2007, 6:03 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
micro stakes isnt good
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Posted by: koko333 at November 14, 2007, 2:52 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
I personally think its rather a difficult task considering how hard it is in the first place to place in the freerolls and then building enough of a bankroll to handle the high variance as your make your way up through the micro-limits.
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Posted by: Pinos at November 14, 2007, 2:45 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Jesus' challenge isn't that hard if you play a 8h/day, and he isn't that good at poker, specially cash
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Posted by: koko333 at November 14, 2007, 1:32 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/chris-ferguson-challenge


It is pretty interesting. And he completed his goal. Doubt anyone with the skills would do it and doubt anyone just starting off could do it. But gives hope to the fish to make it HUGE! I wish I was disciplined enough but BJ calls my name every time I enter a casino(thank gawd I have blocked BJ at any of the online sites I play at). And now I have people trying to teach me how to play craps. All of which kills bankrolls.
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Posted by: Mitch at November 14, 2007, 12:32 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
koko333 wrote: He was showing players that it is possible to go from freerolls to a 10K bankroll.

If i can do it i'm pretty sure Jesus can do it. lol.

I haven't seen Jesus post any of his win rates at different levels though. It would be very interesting.
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Posted by: koko333 at November 14, 2007, 10:12 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Jesus did this on FT. Well, he supposedly started with freerolls and moved up from there to the micro-limit tables and on up. He had rules that he had to maintain that where tied to how big his bankroll was. He was showing players that it is possible to go from freerolls to a 10K bankroll.
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Posted by: superius at November 14, 2007, 9:04 am
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
A world class player would be wasting their talent at micros, in my opinion. Wouldn't the skills that make someone WCP be useless on such tables? I dunno of Sklansky is correct, but he seems to think there are different skill sets needed for small stakes games (ie small stakes holdem). Now I'm not even close to WCP status and 3/6 is the highest game I've ever played (and only rarely) so I dunno if it's true.
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Posted by: daraider at November 9, 2007, 10:33 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
I actually think higher than 20BB/100 would be possible due the willingness to stack off. Where TPTK is often good enougth to play for stacks.

My cousin says he regularly sees the same guys in the plo 25 with $100+ stacks. In NL 25 a double up is 100BB.so even once every 4 hours is 25 assuming the rest of your play is break even. So I 30 or 40 is possible due to the devalued way hands are played.

That sais i think a worldclass player would struggle at first as a lot of his value come from resteals, 2nd barrels, etc which just aren't going to work at low levels.

The people who do the best at low levels are patient nut peddlers. If you can do that you can make a killing there.
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Posted by: AlanN at November 9, 2007, 9:38 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
I always lose at microstakes

Can't out fish the fish!
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Posted by: moo321 at November 9, 2007, 6:30 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Really depends on the competition. Godawful players, you could probably pull 20 bb/100. Maybe 25. That's for world class, though.
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Posted by: DrStrange at November 9, 2007, 5:02 pm
Topic: how much could a world class player earn at micro-stakes? Forum: Bonus Whores
Assuming a world class player played big bet poker at microstakes - no limit holdem or PL Omaha or PL Stud - how big a win rate could be sustainted vs the fish. Lets say $10 NLHE / $10 PLO / $10 pot limit 7CS.

Just looking over my own data, it lookes like the players are better at holdem than stud or omaha, still fish but relatively better.

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