| Posted by: hofdaddy at May 5, 2006, 5:26 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | terrellk11 wrote: novel20 wrote: Why would pushing all-in preflop at 100NL is -EV?
As long as someone is willing to call, I will do it all the time. I have a big enough bankroll to hold up the variance.
Because at the 100NL level people don't generally call $100 pushes preflop so you're generally getting nothing more than the antes. The quality of play at most 100NL tables may not be stellar, but it's usually a heck of a lot better than at the 25NL level.
Not really
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| Posted by: terrellk11 at May 5, 2006, 9:59 am | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | novel20 wrote: Why would pushing all-in preflop at 100NL is -EV?
As long as someone is willing to call, I will do it all the time. I have a big enough bankroll to hold up the variance.
Because at the 100NL level people don't generally call $100 pushes preflop so you're generally getting nothing more than the antes. The quality of play at most 100NL tables may not be stellar, but it's usually a heck of a lot better than at the 25NL level. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ucsbrandon at April 26, 2006, 3:05 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | | I appreciate all the advice so far...just to clarify though, although my bankroll originally started as a $100 half drunk deposit to neteller about a month ago when the when the girlfriend was out of town, it isn't now $140..... that was just the last cashout to neteller....its now about $350 with my recent run of luck at Crazy Poker and the combined winnings of the other sites (and I would have been about 50-100 more if i didn't get sucked in by that damn play blackjack now link at the primas). (as an aside the lower NL players at crazy poker are just plain awful). I think I'm sticking with what Mike said though and keep on playing the smaller level tables while i gain experience. Maybe i'll look into some books as somebody suggested here too before i move up. As far as I can tell though, if you play a tight game at the lower levels it's damn near impossible to lose money if you factor in the bonuses.....just takes a bit of time.....and why get greedy and ruin a good thing...especially when the fun of ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: grimgrin at April 26, 2006, 10:50 am | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Your roll is way to small to move up. NL50 is prob even too high for how much you have- I would end up bust playing that ratio of game size to roll.
Check out boss media bonuses maybe, from what I have read you can play small games and clear the bonuses at like NL20 or something.
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| Posted by: ncullen at April 26, 2006, 7:49 am | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Limit is another beast. It takes differnet skills to win at limit. Stick with what you know for now, and play nl. My suggestion would be to stay at NL50 or below and build up your bankroll to at least $2K, then experiment with other games and limits.
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| Posted by: Cpt. Canuck at April 25, 2006, 9:04 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | To the OP....
I mostly play 2/4 FLHE. I keep a minimum of 40bb in each site I play regularly (more if I multitable at a particular site). I'm a TAG, I don't experience a ton of variance, and I'm +EV (.93bb/100 hands).
Occasionally, I do have to reload a particular site, thus losing my $160. So... in my opinion, your bankroll is too small to play 2/4 LHE. A couple of losing sessions in a row and all your money is gone. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at April 25, 2006, 6:56 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | hess wrote: mike_m235 wrote: hess wrote: If your banroll is $140 .25/.50 NL IS WAY TOO HIGH FOR YOU. For no limit ring games, you generally want at least 20 max buy-ins.
This might be a bankroll that's appropriate to limit with the crazy variance...but a tight NL player doesn't need 20 buy ins. I've played a few years and never come close to losing that many buy ins. If you lose 3-4 buy ins at NL, it's time to stop and reevaluate your game.
It really depends how much of an edge you have over the competition. If your edge is small, especially in an aggressive game where you will be putting lots of money into the pot, variance can bankrupt you if you don't have enough buy-ins.
I'll buy that argument...but probably best to just find a better table if that is the case. There are NL 50 tables you can beat by playing solid tight
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| Posted by: hess at April 25, 2006, 6:29 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | mike_m235 wrote: hess wrote: If your banroll is $140 .25/.50 NL IS WAY TOO HIGH FOR YOU. For no limit ring games, you generally want at least 20 max buy-ins.
This might be a bankroll that's appropriate to limit with the crazy variance...but a tight NL player doesn't need 20 buy ins. I've played a few years and never come close to losing that many buy ins. If you lose 3-4 buy ins at NL, it's time to stop and reevaluate your game.
It really depends how much of an edge you have over the competition. If your edge is small, especially in an aggressive game where you will be putting lots of money into the pot, variance can bankrupt you if you don't have enough buy-ins. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Mikke_ at April 25, 2006, 6:10 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Deposited tonight anyway with $100 for match bonus. Still stacked. $300 bonus to play for, first $90 is 1/5th done. $10 come-back-bonus in the pocket along with a few extra.
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at April 25, 2006, 5:02 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Well, I don't know if you mean Interpoker, but as I had decided to deposit there next month to play 1/2 FL to try it out again, (if my bonuses are still stacked) I'll soon find out what it's like these days.
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| Posted by: Montana.T at April 25, 2006, 4:55 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | guess where my 108% ROI at s&g's came from
sometimes walking upstream is best
OMFG ... just checked my stats tooo ..... playing soooo tight ... 12% of flops seen!!!
I never played so tight in all my life
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at April 25, 2006, 4:54 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Interpoker just sent me a $10 comeback deal for 1 rake today.......mmm.....
Got loads stacked there after the BW2000 gig last summer...
mmmmm.
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| Posted by: Montana.T at April 25, 2006, 4:49 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Lol .. crypto, baby ... £24 average pot 45% plyr/flop
fuck the bonus, LOL
Took £60 to the £0.5/1 which is currently upto £260
a nice $625 day from tables below £0.5/1
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| Posted by: Mikke_ at April 25, 2006, 4:46 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | Montana.T wrote: ucsbrandon wrote: I've just started bonus hunting (about a month now) and have done decently well at Party and a few primas chasing $50 & smaller bonuses and usually breaking about even before the bonuses....below is how i have fared so far after bonuses.
Party-Started $50 Ended $88
Pacific-Started $88 Ended $118
William Hill-Started $70 Ended $116
Golden Riviera-Started $100 Ended $160
Currently I'm at crazy poker which I started at $100 and I'm up to $140 with the $10 sign up bonus and I'm trying to clear the $40 7x raked hand bonus. So far I've done fairly well usually playing .25/.50NL & PL and waiting for people to make mistakes and playing pretty tight. I'm pretty good at stats figuring out when the odds tell me its time to call or time to fold, but I'm still learning how to read players and figure out what type of player they are, when they are bluffing, etc. Anyway, to make a very long story short, I'm thinking of moving ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Montana.T at April 25, 2006, 4:44 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | ucsbrandon wrote: I've just started bonus hunting (about a month now) and have done decently well at Party and a few primas chasing $50 & smaller bonuses and usually breaking about even before the bonuses....below is how i have fared so far after bonuses.
Party-Started $50 Ended $88
Pacific-Started $88 Ended $118
William Hill-Started $70 Ended $116
Golden Riviera-Started $100 Ended $160
Currently I'm at crazy poker which I started at $100 and I'm up to $140 with the $10 sign up bonus and I'm trying to clear the $40 7x raked hand bonus. So far I've done fairly well usually playing .25/.50NL & PL and waiting for people to make mistakes and playing pretty tight. I'm pretty good at stats figuring out when the odds tell me its time to call or time to fold, but I'm still learning how to read players and figure out what type of player they are, when they are bluffing, etc. Anyway, to make a very long story short, I'm thinking of moving up to .50/1NL or 1/2-2/4F... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at April 25, 2006, 4:38 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | hess wrote: If your banroll is $140 .25/.50 NL IS WAY TOO HIGH FOR YOU. For no limit ring games, you generally want at least 20 max buy-ins.
This might be a bankroll that's appropriate to limit with the crazy variance...but a tight NL player doesn't need 20 buy ins. I've played a few years and never come close to losing that many buy ins. If you lose 3-4 buy ins at NL, it's time to stop and reevaluate your game.
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| Posted by: gumica at April 25, 2006, 4:35 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | hess wrote: If your banroll is $140 .25/.50 NL IS WAY TOO HIGH FOR YOU. For no limit ring games, you generally want at least 20 max buy-ins.
agree, but this is about bonus whoring, not usual play. i guess there is not a lot whores which are making deposits of a few 1000's $ for clearing that 50$ or 100$ signup bonus.
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| Posted by: mike_m235 at April 25, 2006, 3:28 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | ucsbrandon wrote: I've just started bonus hunting (about a month now) and have done decently well at Party and a few primas chasing $50 & smaller bonuses and usually breaking about even before the bonuses....below is how i have fared so far after bonuses.
Party-Started $50 Ended $88
Pacific-Started $88 Ended $118
William Hill-Started $70 Ended $116
Golden Riviera-Started $100 Ended $160
Currently I'm at crazy poker which I started at $100 and I'm up to $140 with the $10 sign up bonus and I'm trying to clear the $40 7x raked hand bonus. So far I've done fairly well usually playing .25/.50NL & PL and waiting for people to make mistakes and playing pretty tight. I'm pretty good at stats figuring out when the odds tell me its time to call or time to fold, but I'm still learning how to read players and figure out what type of player they are, when they are bluffing, etc. Anyway, to make a very long story short, I'm thinking of moving up to .50/1NL or 1/2-2/4F... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ucsbrandon at April 25, 2006, 2:19 pm | | Topic: Question for all the experienced pokerwhores Forum: Bonus Whores | I've just started bonus hunting (about a month now) and have done decently well at Party and a few primas chasing $50 & smaller bonuses and usually breaking about even before the bonuses....below is how i have fared so far after bonuses.
Party-Started $50 Ended $88
Pacific-Started $88 Ended $118
William Hill-Started $70 Ended $116
Golden Riviera-Started $100 Ended $160
Currently I'm at crazy poker which I started at $100 and I'm up to $140 with the $10 sign up bonus and I'm trying to clear the $40 7x raked hand bonus. So far I've done fairly well usually playing .25/.50NL & PL and waiting for people to make mistakes and playing pretty tight. I'm pretty good at stats figuring out when the odds tell me its time to call or time to fold, but I'm still learning how to read players and figure out what type of player they are, when they are bluffing, etc. Anyway, to make a very long story short, I'm thinking of moving up to .50/1NL or 1/2-2/4FL to chase some of the sit... | | Read Entire Entry |
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