| Posted by: hofdaddy at March 17, 2005, 1:20 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | mittman84 wrote: i didnt say anything about calling a raise bigger than $.50, or entering a pot where there wont be a lot of people in, with AXs or conectors.........love how you guys put words into my mouth.....MOST pots on the party 25$/50$ are not raised more than 2-3BBs pre flop, and there are 4-5 callers.... if there is a big raise than i would rathter have AKo than 77 as i said before, i was just talking about 75% of the pots where everyone limps, or there is a small raise and 4-5 callers.......but who cares because i am playing on pokerstars, playing sit ang goes and have more than doubled my initial buy in.......and i know the strategy i have been talking about does NOT work againts decent/good players, and i use a much different strategy againts the better players i encounter in the pokerstars sit and goes......so please man who knows everything about poker but makes a significant part of his role from bonuses tell me, the stupid college kid (who is majoring in Actuarial Science, Math, and st... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: zm_dawg at March 17, 2005, 7:00 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | I finshed -$8 after my bonus.....I made a good comeback but my final 100 points I seemed to have the luck I did the first few sessions everything was beaten. I'll play at PR again but there software needs help. The last 3 days I'd get the laggiest deal ever. I'd have the timer on me and I'd yet to see both cards. I'm pretty sure it's on there end because I heard numerous people complaining about it....so in the end it was as bad as I thought it'd be a week ago.... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: apokerlyptic at March 17, 2005, 6:43 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Interesting. I played my first session at PR last night. In the first 20 hands or so, I got QQ (twice); AK and AKs - all shot down in flames. Within the next hour, I had a full house beaten by quad 9s, a nut flush beaten by a full house, and two sets beaten by rivered flushes. In fact, the river killed me practically every time. The one time I got AA was in the SB and everyone folded pre-flop.
I don't know what to make of it. What should have been a highly profitable session - some of the best hands I've ever had in such a short space of time - ended up -40BB. It's all very well saying expert players minimise their losses when the cards aren't running, but it's practically impossible to do when you're getting what seem to be premium hands.
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| Posted by: ripped at March 16, 2005, 9:44 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | mittman84 wrote: ripped have you ever played the 25$ NL 50$ ML tables at partypoker??? if you have you would know that top pair top kicker is going to lose you a hell of a lot more than it will win you.....and yes most pots are mutiway even to a normally raise, so playing a suited aces and suited conectors will be correct 90% of the time
all the time. this is how I clear my bonuses. and like I said in my last post it all depends on position and pot odds if yoiu play these hands. Nothing else. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: proxybot at March 16, 2005, 5:30 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | there are some great maniacal games at 1/2 every night after 3 AM EST
otherwise, this place can be really darn tight. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mittman84 at March 16, 2005, 5:12 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | thank you....i didnt start off with the purpose of explaining my play in loose/weak NL games here, i was asked after replying to the initial message......i toltaly agree that the more experienced players dont want to hear it from a kid, but i have years of poker experiance, i am just new to internet poker........and some of the know it alls wanted to rip into my style v. the real weak players saying i have obvious weaknesses, i know what i desribed doesnt work againts better player, and i dont play that way againts better players. They seem to take what Doyle Brunson and David Skalanski have to say as gospel and apply it to every game....but last time i checked Doyle was playing limit $2,000/$4,000 againts the best players in the world....so to use his style of play againts the people who play low limit NL on the internet, most of whom are playing for the first time, would be idiotic. The game Doyle and other write about is a lot different game than the $25/$50 NL/PL games on the internet. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: noidroid at March 16, 2005, 3:10 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Well you seem to have a solid foundation for a a good poker player.
Yes, treat the game as a math equation. Every check/fold/raise you make has an EV, try to make nothing but +EV decisions. You seem to have figured out how to beat low limit NL games in a short amount of time, congratulations. Yes, win big pots with big hands like sets/straights/flushes, and don't lose big pots with top pair top kicker just because you can't lay it down.
Just realize that a month of successful poker doesn't deem you fit to lecture a forum full of experienced poker players about fundamental shit we already know. You're in the wrong section for it too.
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| Posted by: mittman84 at March 16, 2005, 11:41 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | i didnt say anything about calling a raise bigger than $.50, or entering a pot where there wont be a lot of people in, with AXs or conectors.........love how you guys put words into my mouth.....MOST pots on the party 25$/50$ are not raised more than 2-3BBs pre flop, and there are 4-5 callers.... if there is a big raise than i would rathter have AKo than 77 as i said before, i was just talking about 75% of the pots where everyone limps, or there is a small raise and 4-5 callers.......but who cares because i am playing on pokerstars, playing sit ang goes and have more than doubled my initial buy in.......and i know the strategy i have been talking about does NOT work againts decent/good players, and i use a much different strategy againts the better players i encounter in the pokerstars sit and goes......so please man who knows everything about poker but makes a significant part of his role from bonuses tell me, the stupid college kid (who is majoring in Actuarial Science, Math, and statistics, and who turned ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TheFranchise at March 16, 2005, 3:25 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Very true. Although it's hard not to reply when someone basically says, "Hi! I've played 5000 hands and thus know everything about poker!" Lots of people don't realize some people play 5000+ hands every week and have seen pretty much everything.
A 200bb downswing? boo hoo hoo. That's small stuff. Take off the dress and suck it up, or go play checkers.. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: noidroid at March 15, 2005, 9:40 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Leave the kid alone.. everyone thinks they know everything when they're in college
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| Posted by: hofdaddy at March 15, 2005, 9:16 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | mittman84 wrote: ripped have you ever played the 25$ NL 50$ ML tables at partypoker??? if you have you would know that top pair top kicker is going to lose you a hell of a lot more than it will win you.....and yes most pots are mutiway even to a normally raise, so playing a suited aces and suited conectors will be correct 90% of the time
Are you playing the same Party that I play? So you are going to call $4 cold every time you get A2s? There is some flaw in that logic!
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| Posted by: mittman84 at March 15, 2005, 6:24 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | ripped have you ever played the 25$ NL 50$ ML tables at partypoker??? if you have you would know that top pair top kicker is going to lose you a hell of a lot more than it will win you.....and yes most pots are mutiway even to a normally raise, so playing a suited aces and suited conectors will be correct 90% of the time | | Static Link |
| Posted by: zm_dawg at March 15, 2005, 9:57 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | easy there young fella's. As of today I have 109 points left and i'm down $80. In the last two days I've made up $90 from my $174 low point. I'm getting the most amazing hands I've ever seen on any site, it sucks that I had to go through a cold streak of 1200 hands if thats what you call it. I'm getting 4 tables full of premium hands, i'm speechless. And just when I thought my luck was at the high point and was on my way to even....they tricked me check this out.....
Texas Hold'em $1-$2 (real money); hand #733,370,292
Table Padang, 15 Mar 2005 9:12 AM ET
Seat 1: DrJTrotter
Seat 2: TiradPass
Seat 3: TimThePro
Seat 4: Ace Cracker
Seat 5: sunny75
Seat 6: Edgar246
Seat 7: dunnoz
Seat 8: mays24
Seat 9: Skillet X
Seat 10: zm_dawg [ 9D,10D ]
ANTES/BLINDS
Skillet X posts blind ($0.50); zm_dawg posts blind ($1).
PRE-FLOP
DrJTrotter folds, TiradPass folds, TimThePro calls $1, Ace Cracker calls $1, sunny75 folds, Edgar2... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: packbacker83 at March 15, 2005, 9:52 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Quite frankly I am glad you whores dont like pokerroom. Most of the time when I sit down there I am not looking at a table full of familiar names. My win rate there is double what it is anywhere else. So, the rest of you guys stay away.
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| Posted by: hofdaddy at March 15, 2005, 9:42 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | guardianx wrote: i have ban PR and hollywood and poker star and ub from my bonus cycle.
Why? cause you lost some money?
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| Posted by: SmackMBUp at March 14, 2005, 9:01 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | You needn't even do tricks like that notepad thingy. There's a code posted at pokerdominion forum that can be copy/pasted to your registry settings of GT+ and the boxes will appear just how you'd love them to be.
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| Posted by: zm_dawg at March 14, 2005, 6:37 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | macman wrote:
My biggest complaint with Poker Room is that Game Time + doesn't work. I've downloaded the latest version (1.4) and I'm not going back to reinstall 1.3 just in order to get it to work correctly at PokerRoom. Therefore, I've just played the lower level limit tables at PokerRoom ($1/2, $2/4) in order to clear the bonus. I don't like limit play but by being patient and tight, have found I can make out pretty good there. Boring but effective.
Gametime definately does work at PR. It took me awhile to get it all figured out but you can move the boxes around and they'll stay that way w/ each new table. There's a link at www.pokerdominion.com if you search. Basically i opened a notepad document and made it really small and kinda put it over the boxes. I clicked and clicked and sooner or later each box lit up and allowed me to move it. I found that inbetween deals is where I was able to move the most of'em.
look at that........a whole paragraph w/o an... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: TheFranchise at March 13, 2005, 7:21 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | After finally getting around to playing PokerRoom again recently to clear off a couple bonuses, (still three to go!); I can say that it's been quite awhile since I've seen so many assholes at one place. This was the first time I ever seriously considered turning chat completely off. Hostile is one thing, dumb is another, but the loudmouths at my tables were both.
ZM_Dawg.... please no more ellipses.... they hurt.... my head... and make your posts.... cumbersome.... to read. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: macman at March 13, 2005, 12:25 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | I don't care if you're Phil Helmuth or Doyle Brunson, you're going to have strings of bad cards, bad beats, etc.. Good players maximize their profits when the cards are good and minimize their losses when the cards are bad.
It is easier to blame PokerRoom, or any other site for that matter, when we make some mistakes or hit a bad run than to look at ourselves. I've found the play at PokerRoom softer than Party Poker (as if that is possible). Of course, that also means idiots will hang in with cards they shouldn't and deliver a few more bad beats. Over the long run, those same morons are where you make your money at. Let's face it, if the morons never got paid off, they'd quit or learn to play smart.
My biggest complaint with Poker Room is that Game Time + doesn't work. I've downloaded the latest version (1.4) and I'm not going back to reinstall 1.3 just in order to get it to work correctly at PokerRoom. Therefore, I've just played the lower level limit tables at PokerRoom ($1/2, $... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Pokerdogg at March 13, 2005, 11:29 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | I started keeping track last November, a few weeks after learning Holdem. Boy, was I doing well! I was winning 7-8 BB/hr in the first couple of weeks. I was joking with my wife that I am a Poker God. Well, my stats started to turn south after about 3 weeks, and within a month, I had to change my name to Pokerdogg, and have remained so. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ripped at March 13, 2005, 11:14 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | As a NL player I will tell you that your style is way off. What cards you can and cant call is always based on position and players already in the pot. AK is a monster. Ax suited is no good in early position. suited connectors are no good unless in a multiway pot. I can go on forever but I will not explain here exactly how to play it as that would be impossible. TO say that flopping top pair with top kick is no good is a TERRIBLE comment. If you dont know how to play this hand then I say go play limit because you dont understand the game at all. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: zm_dawg at March 13, 2005, 9:11 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | 373 points left to collect. Down $150....I've won 17 pots outta 1200 hands. so i'm averaging to be down $300 before bonus lol.........on the other hand UB is great and i love it....+$200 in 2 days.....PR can eat my (_|_) | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mittman84 at March 9, 2005, 1:22 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | i dont mean to say my play is unique, just different from the average player. you can read more in Pot-Limit and No-Limit Poker byBob Ciaffone, Stewart Reuben, and i adjusted a little because of the huge fish rate in the games i play. Im not talking about playing decent to good players, im talking about playing the $25/$50 NL/PL tables on partypoker where people will call to the river with middle pair, or a gut shot. when i play againts good players i dont play as described above, i would get killed....i just think that i have come up with a good way to take advantage of the suckers on many internet sites | | Static Link |
| Posted by: deezamn at March 9, 2005, 12:30 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | mittman84 wrote: you are probably right......i have only played roughly 10K online hands, but i do play a lot different than most people online. you have to realize that playing real poker against decent opponents and playing online where 1/2 the people are big suckers is a hugely different game. I like most people lost my initial buy in, and second, than relized i would have to change things to adapt to all the bad players. I normally only play suited aces(turns into the nut flush) pocket pairs(turns into hiden sets); and suited conectors if i can limp. In NL/PL high unsuited cards are worthless.....all they do it win you a small pot or lose you a big one....for example what does AQo do for you in a NL game? makes top pair with a good kicker....unless you get lucy lucky and make a straight all you have is a high pair, and you wont win many big pots with that, but will lose big ones if you arent carefull.....i would take 77 over AKo anyday. my goal when entering a NL hand is to take all of my op... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: mittman84 at March 9, 2005, 12:10 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | you are probably right......i have only played roughly 10K online hands, but i do play a lot different than most people online. you have to realize that playing real poker against decent opponents and playing online where 1/2 the people are big suckers is a hugely different game. I like most people lost my initial buy in, and second, than relized i would have to change things to adapt to all the bad players. I normally only play suited aces(turns into the nut flush) pocket pairs(turns into hiden sets); and suited conectors if i can limp. In NL/PL high unsuited cards are worthless.....all they do it win you a small pot or lose you a big one....for example what does AQo do for you in a NL game? makes top pair with a good kicker....unless you get lucy lucky and make a straight all you have is a high pair, and you wont win many big pots with that, but will lose big ones if you arent carefull.....i would take 77 over AKo anyday. my goal when entering a NL hand is to take all of my opponents chips, and i am n... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: D. Andrew at March 9, 2005, 11:50 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | deezamn wrote: Subby wrote: Pokerroom is miserable. Fortunately there is enough other free money out there that my decision to stop playing there isn't a big deal...
And I only need 934 more points to clear $150 by March 11th. I'm actually thinking of letting this expire (I think I have 2 or 3 more bonuses stacked behind this one.) I'm curious as to what's behind expiring bonus #1!
Thankfully I've been doing so well on the casino side the past 3 months, I can almost let these bonuses slip away without feeling too guilty about passing up free money. Almost...
I found a 100 spot under my 150. I am more curious as to what is behind that. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: deezamn at March 9, 2005, 10:59 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Subby wrote: Pokerroom is miserable. Fortunately there is enough other free money out there that my decision to stop playing there isn't a big deal...
And I only need 934 more points to clear $150 by March 11th. I'm actually thinking of letting this expire (I think I have 2 or 3 more bonuses stacked behind this one.) I'm curious as to what's behind expiring bonus #1!
Thankfully I've been doing so well on the casino side the past 3 months, I can almost let these bonuses slip away without feeling too guilty about passing up free money. Almost...
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| Posted by: Subby at March 9, 2005, 10:56 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | Pokerroom is miserable. Fortunately there is enough other free money out there that my decision to stop playing there isn't a big deal... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at March 9, 2005, 10:22 am | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Interesting! I would like to know how long you have been playing mittman, just out of curiousity. I know that there are people who have very high bb/100 but only have 10K hands logged. Once you start playing for a while things start to go downhill. I know this for fact. If you have been playing for a while (say 1 year) then you should write a book or post more on the poker stratedgy forum.
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| Posted by: mittman84 at March 8, 2005, 10:55 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | the worse run off my life is +$80 over 4 days....there were some negative days...i play PL holdem 3-4 tables at a time, play real tight, and get the suckers pay you off real well when you make your hands, and that more than makes up for the little bit you give up by playing really tight.... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ninguno at March 8, 2005, 7:58 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | mittman84 wrote: i feel ya man....im in the same boat. after taking $1200 off partypoker in a little over a week, i am up only like $80 after like 4 days of playing on pokerroom. I have never suffered so many bad beats....i am 1-9 with AA losing to hands such as J7, Q8, and smaller pocket pairs, that all call raises. i have had BY FAR the worse luck in my life the last few days playing on pokerroom, as soon as my bonus clears (100 more points) im getting the hell out of dodge.
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| Posted by: sjguppy at March 8, 2005, 7:10 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: im just a college kid who playes about 2 hours a night and makes roughly $50/hr
If you are making $50/hr then I have a suggestion. Close the books and head to Vegas. $50/hr is roughly 100k/year. Since that is more than about 95% of the population makes you might as well get out there and start cashing in.
I am curious at what level you play at. At 10-20 and playing 50 hands/hr that would be roughly 5 big bets per hundred. Even at 20-40 that would still be 2.5 per hundred. Pretty impressive win rates.
Sorry about being sceptical but most of us are here because of the bonuses. At $50/hr I would consider worrying about a party 10x bonus being a waste of my time. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lagniappe at March 8, 2005, 5:59 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Just to add something of value to this thread.
zm_dawg wrote: PokerTracker is all messed up from the hand importing.
Download the new patch file to fix the problem here: http://www.pokertracker.com/pt509c.exe. It worked for me.
Oh, and to get Gametime+ to work, see this thread: http://www.pokerdominion.com/viewtopic.php?t=14. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at March 8, 2005, 3:32 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | mittman84 wrote: are you talking to me? im just a college kid who playes about 2 hours a night and makes roughly $50/hr which helps pay for classes and such.....i was jut saying that i agree with him that i have had really bad luck on pokerroom.com also
Uh, no Mr. Ego! Thanks for your inquisition though
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| Posted by: mittman84 at March 8, 2005, 3:28 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | | are you talking to me? im just a college kid who playes about 2 hours a night and makes roughly $50/hr which helps pay for classes and such.....i was jut saying that i agree with him that i have had really bad luck on pokerroom.com also | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at March 8, 2005, 3:24 pm | | Topic: Rough days at PR Forum: Bonus Whores | Someone call that man a WAHBULANCE!
Relax, keep grinding and you'll be alright!
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