| Posted by: Steve Martino at May 26, 2005, 7:44 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | | THanks for taking the time to let everyone know. I will do the same if I'm unlucky enough to sign up at a site like that (Which I will.)This should be on the blacklisted sites. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Gonzo787 at May 25, 2005, 10:24 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | celery wrote: At least this guy speaks his mind and lets you guys know that you aren't real poker players and he doesn't really care about your bonus stealing ways. I've played on this site for awhile now and they've treated me just fine but then again I actually play real games and not the 10 cent games trying to get a 10 dollar bonus. Go cry to someone who cares.
Not real poker players? Puhleeeze. Excuse us for maximizing our advantage and FOLLOWING THE BONUS GUIDELINES. Tell the LR people they either need to go out of business or increase their requirements. Whores are going to be around as long as there are bonuses. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: phatlad at May 25, 2005, 12:38 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | celery wrote: Well it's not all that funny. At least this guy speaks his mind and lets you guys know that you aren't real poker players and he doesn't really care about your bonus stealing ways. I've played on this site for awhile now and they've treated me just fine but then again I actually play real games and not the 10 cent games trying to get a 10 dollar bonus. Go cry to someone who cares.
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| Posted by: BCsparky at May 24, 2005, 9:06 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | celery wrote: lets you guys know that you aren't real poker players and he doesn't really care about your bonus stealing ways.
I especially like this part about stealing bonuses.
Sounds like a prime candidate for the coveted award.
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| Posted by: derek at May 24, 2005, 7:01 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | [quote="celery"]Well it's not all that funny. At least this guy speaks his mind and lets you guys know that you aren't real poker players and he doesn't really care about your bonus stealing ways. I've played on this site for awhile now and they've treated me just fine but then again I actually play real games and not the 10 cent games trying to get a 10 dollar bonus. Go cry to someone who cares.[/quote
largeeyes can we get an award here???? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: celery at May 24, 2005, 5:43 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | | Well it's not all that funny. At least this guy speaks his mind and lets you guys know that you aren't real poker players and he doesn't really care about your bonus stealing ways. I've played on this site for awhile now and they've treated me just fine but then again I actually play real games and not the 10 cent games trying to get a 10 dollar bonus. Go cry to someone who cares. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Airbertach at May 17, 2005, 3:05 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | These luckyriver people are just so clueless. I get an email from them yesterday as follows:
XXXXXX,
Thank you for your action in the month of April. You raked enough to qualify for a bonus. Our goal is to be the best online site for the real poker players to be on, one of those ways is by granting bonus payouts according to play.
The $25 is in your account and there are no restrictions on it. Enjoy, and thanks again for you April action.
Edward Alberts
LuckyRiverPoker.com
Of course I logged in and cashed out this "bonus" money. Combine that big $25 with the $12.53 they gave me for playing about 51 tablehours of $2/$4, and this means they have officially cheated me out of $262.47. I had played the hands according to the original terms of the bonus which should have paid me $300. Then these idiots chose the route of fraud, but now want to give me some chump change.
So I guess "real poker players" like to be lied to and appreciate ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: HotFlush at April 27, 2005, 9:50 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | This is absolutely staggering. You could pick every line apart in his emails, but he's my fav:
Quote: The site will be functioning perfectly WHEN IT IS OPENLY ADVERTISED.
The site is listed on pokerpulse, who are signed up as an affiliate. I'd class that as both 'open' and 'advertised'.
Also;
Quote: You snuck under the radar
Yeah, you went to their URL and signed up on their site. That's serious covert work to sneak under their radar dude. Special ops. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Cha Ngo at April 26, 2005, 10:28 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote: Fourthly, "You might be pissed, but I speak DAH TRUTH ! "....I'm afraid perhaps Klepto is running your site.....
Classic!
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| Posted by: dokoko at April 26, 2005, 11:53 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Loke wrote: What is someone with a ten year old's attitude and business sense doing running a company?
Seems anyone can run a company nowadays
Only question is: Where does the run end? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: derek at April 26, 2005, 11:28 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | it's pretty funny that he said site is not supposed to be open to public yet. i emailed support asking about the bonus system about 3 weeks ago but I didn't make a deposit.Since then I get an email from them every few days asking me to deposit that says i qualify for a "special offer".Of course support doesn't seem to know what the special offer is
For a site that isn't open they are sure trying hard to get me to join. I guess I must be one of the high rollers the are looking to attract | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Lurker4 at April 26, 2005, 1:16 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | | wow...this is hard to believe that any representative of a business would write something like that. That is just plain pathetic. You actually were pretty easy on him, I would have just went off on him after the first response | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dokoko at April 26, 2005, 12:24 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | SMRacine wrote:
HIS RESPONSE
Scott,
...
Take your theft and run Scott. You and your "team" only ruin honest intentions of encouraging our desired players to the site.
So yes, your brother your friends, we're not looking for you and nobody advertised to you. Our only interest is in profit minded honest poker players that we can build a relationship with.
...
You snuck under the radar, you stole your funds.....
I guess this is not the only site regarding whores like that. Normally they don't say it loudly. If it was easy to identify a whore, many sites would exclude us in their T&C.
To be fair, the sites offering 10x bonuses or better do not make money out of us directly. What they want are players who continue playing even without a bonus. But they increase their traffic by attracting us, so there is a gain for them after all. And finally they don't lose much money to us with the usual b... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Moneyman at April 25, 2005, 9:08 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Thanks for the post. I certianly won't be joining this site anytime soon.
I don't know about you guys but I play poker for two reasons: 1) because I like pitting my intellectial capacities against other people and beating them (fun of the game); and 2) because I make money at it. If I don't make as much money as I could by playing at another site, I would switch to that site-this is simple business.
To acquire customers this startup is going to need something to attract them. If they were smart they could offer 100% rake back for like the first 200 bucks or something. They wouldn't lose money and they would get people to notice their site. This just might be important.
One last thing, Steve Wynn just opened up a new massive casino in Las Vegas. This thing cost billions. Anyway I read that he told all his employees that when they first open on the 28th, that everything possible should be done to make the guest happy including "returning a bet" it necessary. ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: SMRacine at April 25, 2005, 5:58 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Yes,
I was just floored by his comments. I never met any business owner in any industry that lacked such professionalism. bayou poker does seem to be the opposite, yet very similar. Neither one has a downloadable version yet, they use the same cashier and support staff, both are pokerroom skins.....But none the less I made my deposit and will give Mike a whirl....One must give people the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise....I think I was more than patient with luckyriver.....It's the only the second negative experience I've had at 40 differnet poker rooms, so I shouldn't take it out on the 95% that treat their customers properly. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Pokerdogg at April 25, 2005, 5:15 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | | Wow, is this guy Mike's (see threads on BayouPoker) evil twin? I have never seen this level of unprofessional conduct from any business people I've ever dealt with, and I've come across some pretty bad ones in the past. Mike at BayouPoker is bending over backwards to make his site a success, this guy is doing the opposite, and they are both running on the Pokerroom network. What a contrast! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at April 25, 2005, 2:38 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Eek.... I mean, it's nice to have a straight-up conversation with the owner of a company, I guess, but this guy needs to take some basic "Business 101" lessons if he hopes this is going to be succesful long term.
Given his statements were true (that the room wasn't open to all, just a select few); he could have easily told you "We're sorry you think it is fraud, but you gained access to a site that you shouldn't have gotten to (through no fault of your own); and we will gladly honor the bonus up to the point where we discovered the error. We hope you understand that the bonus terms were not set in stone, we were still in a testing phase, and did not expect the public to have access to the site yet." Simple enough, you can argue more but you'll just be arguing to a blank wall. Same thing accomplished - the additional bonus money is denied, but in a far more reasonable way.
Instead the guy goes on a tear, insulting you and a lot of others in the meantime. I certainly would never ev... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: WLU_CA at April 25, 2005, 2:24 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Just wanted to say thanks for posting this.
I was considering playing at this site a few weeks back and am now glad I didn't. Sorry you had to be the one to get suckered into the site but we all appreciate you sharing it! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hofdaddy at April 25, 2005, 2:08 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | WOW
With an attitude like his I will not be surprised if this site goes the way of the do do.
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| Posted by: SMRacine at April 25, 2005, 1:46 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | I had no luck getting luckyriverpoker to honor their agreement...player support suggested I communicate directly with luckyriverpoker.com, below is the email chain, it's rather long but a worthwhile read.....it'll give you some insight into the company you may or may not be dealing with....If you do have bonus money left that they did not honor, PM me with the details, I'd like to know how big this is....
Sorry jek, but I don't think you'll be able to use them as an affiliate....
MY FIRST MESSAGE:
Hello,
Several weeks ago I deposited and started playing on your site. You were offering a generous bonus to be cleared at a rate of 5 raked hands per dollar. I had 300 bonus dollars and played 1500 raked hands and expected the bonus money to be released. Much to my surprise only about half was released. I then talked to customer support, and went back and forth several times with them. They told me that 5x in raked hands was not what you intended, but rather 5 ti... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: SMRacine at April 15, 2005, 6:07 pm | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | I received the same message from Tim...Here was my response:
Tim,
Does this just mean I am out of luck? The website posted the terms and conditions and I followed that, and now I am not entitled to the bonus? This doesn't sit well with me. This seems very unprofessional.
Also for a clarification....If I put in $5 to a pot, and 3 others put $5 into a pot, and the $20 pot is raked $1...is $1 in bonus released (for $5 wagered); or do you consider my contribution to the rake $0.25 (1/4 of the rake)....and therefore would need to play 20 such hands before a single dollar is released....and seeing I only play about 1 of every 3 hands...It would take 60 raked hands to earn a single $1, rather than the 5 raked hands you had advertised and no longer feel like honoring? Say it isn't so.
Also, to see how the bonus wouild clear I decided to play a little bit. I played for about 20 minutes on 2/4, saw 20 hands, 9 were raked and 3 of the 9 were contribut... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at April 15, 2005, 11:42 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | This seems even worse than the Prima "contributed raked" situation. So it isn't even a situation where I have to bet at least $5 to get a free $1 (ie. Pacific); but that my actual contribution to the rake is $5? Cripes, give me a break! I can understand a company setting up a bonus that they can't actually lose money on, but when you design a bonus that difficult to clear, it just seems better not to offer one at all.
A normal session for me at PokerRoom 2/4 is about 400 hands, give or take - with this setup, I'd be lucky to clear $5 - $6 in bonus money over all those hands, given a normal distribution of cards. At PokerRoom, by comparison (7x); I would have earned about $28 in bonus money. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Brummer at April 15, 2005, 11:10 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | This is crazy......I finished my first three hundred dollar bonus a couple of weeks ago, redeposited to get another 10% neteller bonus and I find this BS out, I certainly won't be putting any more money in here.......
too bad, because I had planned on running through a $100 neteller bonus on a weekly basis..... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: derek at April 15, 2005, 10:39 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | thanks for the heads up
I was going to start this over the weekend.It took 5 emails to them to finally get an answer on how the bonus cleared now they change it what a joke. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Airbertach at April 15, 2005, 10:23 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | HotFlush wrote: Think you pushed it a little far on those last 2 paragraphs. I think up till then you had a chance of an appology and getting your bonus money credited - now I imagine they'll just ignore you.
What was the change - from raked to contrib?
Yes, he even admits they had a "misleading disclaimer" on the site. As far as my response, I figured my bonus was lost anyway, so I might as well drive my point home. Maybe that was -EV, but it made me feel better. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: HotFlush at April 15, 2005, 9:49 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Think you pushed it a little far on those last 2 paragraphs. I think up till then you had a chance of an appology and getting your bonus money credited - now I imagine they'll just ignore you.
What was the change - from raked to contrib? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Airbertach at April 15, 2005, 9:16 am | | Topic: Luckyriverpoker.com not trustworthy Forum: Bonus Whores | Greetings fellow whores. I am a longtime lurker and appreciate all of the valuable information I have gained from the bonuswhores site. I wanted to share my experience with luckyriver so that you will know these people are not trustworthy. Basically, they changed the terms of the sign up bonus after I had completed the raked hands required, and thus screwed me out of the $300 bonus. Here is the email I received from their "support" and my response:
Hello,
After going over this with supervisors and managers, here are my findings:
LuckyRiverPoker will be releasing monies from your bonus amount on a daily basis, based on your $ contribution to the rake. The ratio is set at 5x, therefore, each time you contribute a total of $5 to the rake, $1 of your free money will be released into your real money.
Because the poker system uses GMT, depending on where you live and what time you play that day, you may not see your bonus right away. Today's rake contribution sees b... | | Read Entire Entry |
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