| Posted by: Imapokerdude at June 22, 2005, 2:49 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | Crypto bonuses are very very tight. If you are going to see a flop raise before the flop to build the pot. Otherwise when you bet the flop your 1 or 2 opponents will both fold and you drag the raked pot and it is less money or = money to what your portion of the betting was. I have seen this time and time again. You finally get a hand to play and there is only 1 or 2 people and they both immediately fold on a flop bet. The pot rakes and you get your money back.
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| Posted by: pinebull at June 20, 2005, 7:30 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | | I think it depends on your preference. If you like playing full ring games, it's a bad deal. If you like 6-max, it's more reasonable. Personally, I'd rather do MultiPoker at 20x or Empire at 15x over the extra BW signup bonus - the Crypto games are that bad right now. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: SynthTrance at June 20, 2005, 6:21 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | I was wondering what you people would suggest for the signup bonus offered through BW. From what I've read so far on the forum, the tables are tight and bonuses clear slow when dealing with raked hands.
I don't have any experience on crypto sites so I would really like to know if a 370 bonus for 2160 raked hands is doable?
(this calculation was arrived through: 100 for 2000 raked hands through BW but it clears along with the monthly so assuming I do the 3 monthlies before august 31st, it will effectively be 370 for 2160 -- unless I completely misinterpreted something)
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| Posted by: ed209 at June 20, 2005, 10:40 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | hogua wrote: I, too, have decided to give up on all the raked hands Crypto bonuses.
what is "all"? the only two raked Cryptos are Interpoker and Classic. that leaves SEVEN others which are hourly or dealt, and generally worth doing every month (I'll allow a veto option on Caribbean).
you don't have to turn every random thread into a bodog stud advertisment you know. even if you can make as much per hour as you could on a typical party reload (and that's playing $2/4 stud compared to 50c/$1 party); the fact that you can only get these games together once a week and only after profuse begging of other BW members does not make it a holy grail. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hogua at June 20, 2005, 10:08 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | I, too, have decided to give up on all the raked hands Crypto bonuses. I still do the time based one... with 4 tables thats about $50 in 75 minutes (plus I usually accept an offer to "prop" at least one of those table, which just ads to the bonus).
Now, instead of hitting the raked-hands Crytpos, I split my time at Absolute, which seems to be getting better all the time, and Bodog, which has awesome clearance rates at 2/4 and up stud.
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| Posted by: TheFranchise at June 19, 2005, 10:48 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | Osric wrote: OK, how do you guys grind away at these tables? .
Unless you're on at a decent time, play 6-max. Dollars or Pounds, doesn't seem to matter. The full games can be some of the tightest anywhere at any site at any limit at certain times. Sometimes they are just fine. Other times it's heads-up on the flop every hand.
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| Posted by: Grinder at June 19, 2005, 6:33 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | | I actually agree with you - it's the same argument about playing 1/2 instead of 2/4 - you are losing $$ by trying to clear the bonus fast. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: ed209 at June 19, 2005, 1:55 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | Grinder wrote: Actually I do think that - 5BB at .50/1 is doable. Although it is certainly open to argument.
again yes, 5BB at 50c/$1 is doable (I personally about 4.25BB/100 over last 10k hands); but you're still missing the scope of your own original statement. you said that even if you took the 5BB/bonus at 50c/$1 AWAY, you could do better than the 2.5BB's at $1/2 PLUS whatever supposed lower earnings rate you could achieve at the tighter $1/2 tables. that's the part that I don't buy.
let's say for your own argument's sake that you are hitting the 50c/$1 crypto for 5BB/100 and no bonus, so basically $5/hr. while WITH the bonus at $1/2, you're already making the same $5/hr for JUST BREAKING EVEN. the tables are tighter, but realistically you'd still manage to eke out 1BB/100 at $1/2, which added to the bonus yields a total net of $7/hr.
so now to achieve your initial thesis which read (quote) "I think you can make more at the .5/1 without the bonus then at the 1/2 WIT... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: ed209 at June 19, 2005, 10:07 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | Grinder wrote: I think you can make more at the .5/1 without the bonus then at the 1/2 WITH the bonus.
I see what you're trying to argue here but mathematically this statement does not sound realistic.
even the lowest bonus at interpoker is worth about $5 an hour. that is 2.5BB's at $1/2 and 5BB's at 50c/$1 limits. you think having an extra 10-15% of people seeing flops is enough to offset this amount of free money?
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| Posted by: RangerC at June 19, 2005, 1:16 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | | Just play Stud or Omaha (the Omaha games only run occasionally, though) - the games are almost always excellent., and 90+% of hands are raked (the players are fairly slow, though). I haven't played a single hand of full ring holdem at Crypto since they added micro-limits, and I have no problem knocking out the bonuses. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pinebull at June 18, 2005, 9:35 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | The micro tables have just about killed 1/2 on Crypto. The tightness of the 1/2 tables used to vary considerably depending on what time you played, some times they were wicked tight, other times really fishy. Now it's almost impossible to find a decent table regardless of the time. But to answer your question:
1. try playing NL. NL on Crypto seems to be fishier than limit, the other morning I played a NL 100 table where 4 people had VPIP over 50%. Good luck finding that on 1/2. Or
2. just learn to accept grinding through it. It isn't fun at all, but the way I look at it, if you want to move up in limits, you are going to need to be able to deal with tight tables at some point, you might as well start learning now. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Loke at June 18, 2005, 8:40 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | Alphaunit1 wrote: krimson wrote: I skip all the raked-hand crypto's.
So basically you skip InterPoker? All the others (even Caribbean Sun) clear on dealt hands/hourly basis as long as you are playing 1/2 and above.
No need to skip the bonus, just do it in the casino. I did it today. I managed to make $60 on top of the bonus playing BlackJack. Last month I turned it in to over $500. And, the key is, you do it in 30 minutes, not several hours. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Alphaunit1 at June 18, 2005, 4:24 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | krimson wrote: I skip all the raked-hand crypto's.
So basically you skip InterPoker? All the others (even Caribbean Sun) clear on dealt hands/hourly basis as long as you are playing 1/2 and above.
I still dislike the $1/$2 tables (they are wicked tight); but with the new software upgrade, at least things move quickly enough to get more hands in. (The software upgrade finally made it viable for me to clear CarSun again after their bonus terms change back in February - if I can clear it in less than 2 hours, I'm fine with it. By no means the best Crypto bonus, but certainly livable.) I do have to admit to avoiding InterPoker a bit, but that's just because it's the only bonus I can let stack a little bit, so I'm working other stuff off first. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Grinder at June 18, 2005, 8:00 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | The .50/1 tables at crypto are LOADED with fish because all the BW's are on the 1/2 and above tables. I'm see 45% and up tablesALL the TIME. I don't play at that level but I think you can make more at the .5/1 without the bonus then at the 1/2 WITH the bonus.
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| Posted by: krimson at June 17, 2005, 1:30 pm | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | I skip all the raked-hand crypto's.
Just do the hourlies and the non-raked hand requirements and your set. Do InterPoker in the casino.
The $1/2 is tight, but it's also one of the weakest games on the net. A bunch of -EV players trying to squeeze value out of their bonuses.
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| Posted by: ed209 at June 17, 2005, 11:42 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | dollar tables are tolerable on cryptos, but you do need a bit of table selection time. anything with pot size at least 5BB's is good enough, especially if you're just whoring dealt hands or hourlies.
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| Posted by: Loke at June 17, 2005, 9:47 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | 1) I gave up on dollar tables once micro limits came out. Try pound tables.
2) I gave up on InterPoker when the raked requirement went up and now do that bonus in the casino. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Osric at June 17, 2005, 8:56 am | | Topic: Crypto 1/2 dollars Forum: Bonus Whores | OK, how do you guys grind away at these tables? I have 465 hands to complete today to get my interpoker bonus and since there are rarely pound tables available, I decided to drop down to dollars. These must be the tightest tables on the face of the earth.
155 hands played. 69 raked. 69. 6 f'in 9! That is like 40% of the hands get raked!
67 hands played at the pound table (only one open) and 49 of those were raked.
God...still have 329 hands to go. Gotta pack for my vacation today too...
must clear bonus...must clear bonus...must clear bonus...
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