| Posted by: fatshaft at August 23, 2005, 11:07 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | | WhooFleuryScores wrote: I think the fact that the Party skins are so loose is what frustrates alot of players.Personally I don't mind it;although for some reason I seem to do better on Eurobet then when I play on Empire(who knows).Adjusting to table dynamics is def the key though as well as game selection. For a long time now I've been seriously doubting this. I would love to see the % displayed in the Party lobby. I actually believe that this is the reason they don't, the myth would be dispelled, and the truth that Party is at best average would be revealed. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: wyldchyld at August 22, 2005, 6:53 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | JPMcMoney wrote: what you have to realize is the blind steals accompish 2 things. One, it keeps your stack on an even keel while there is no action (which is often at this kind of table) and will more likely give you action when you have a real hand. Because the table is so tight, you have to scoop alot of small pots, waiting to get action on big hands to hit the big ones. It's not for everyone, ii's just a way to play the super tight tables. My philosophy is this, if they are going to fold to most raises, I am just going to keep doing it till they want to play back at me. Frustrate them and make them either play outside of their game or force them to make it glaringly obvious when they have a hand. Certainly I prefer to play at a looser table with a maniac, but I have had some pretty good sessions running a table over and having some fed up 10% VPIP pay me off when I raise for the 30th time in 50 hands with KK or AA and picks the wrong time to make a stand.
JP
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| Posted by: JPMcMoney at August 22, 2005, 11:07 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | what you have to realize is the blind steals accompish 2 things. One, it keeps your stack on an even keel while there is no action (which is often at this kind of table) and will more likely give you action when you have a real hand. Because the table is so tight, you have to scoop alot of small pots, waiting to get action on big hands to hit the big ones. It's not for everyone, ii's just a way to play the super tight tables. My philosophy is this, if they are going to fold to most raises, I am just going to keep doing it till they want to play back at me. Frustrate them and make them either play outside of their game or force them to make it glaringly obvious when they have a hand. Certainly I prefer to play at a looser table with a maniac, but I have had some pretty good sessions running a table over and having some fed up 10% VPIP pay me off when I raise for the 30th time in 50 hands with KK or AA and picks the wrong time to make a stand.
JP
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| Posted by: elric at August 22, 2005, 10:16 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | JP,
If I have to resort to blind stealing in my NL strategy I prefer to play elsewhere. I think your second method of stack stealing is the way to go. I have started to slow my alternate site bonus activities and hang around the Party network on rakeback instead of pursuing less lucrative tables on sparsely populated sites in a feeble attempt to clear some trivial bonus.
Great posts...
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| Posted by: Haagenti2 at August 19, 2005, 2:42 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | The short term luck factor in Poker is enormous. You need about 10.000 hands on both Empire and Eurobet before the numbers start making any sense.
Anything less is just noise.
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| Posted by: WhooFleuryScores at August 14, 2005, 7:19 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | | I think the fact that the Party skins are so loose is what frustrates alot of players.Personally I don't mind it;although for some reason I seem to do better on Eurobet then when I play on Empire(who knows).Adjusting to table dynamics is def the key though as well as game selection. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: JPMcMoney at August 14, 2005, 6:41 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | what's funny is I am just reading all of this now. I read your PM first and my response was ????? Now I guess I understand. First off, I did not mean to call you a novice. In my post I my quote was this: "A strategy i suggest to novice NL players on party, FOR INSTANCE....." This was only meant as an example, sorry if that lead you to believe that I was grouping you in there. Second, I certainly could expand this into a much more detailed attack plan to handle the party NL tables, but wanted to give a brief, helpful start, so, yes, I can certainly come up with something much more well thought out and thourough (however, I am 33 with a family and fulltime job, so my freetime is not much). Most here know my posts tend to be short and to the point.
As for the apology, it is completely accepted, especially since I didn't even have time to get offended.
Also, I certainly don't claim to be the ultimate authority on NL. Yes, I do play quite a bit and will give my advice where I think... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Roymund at August 14, 2005, 1:38 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | | NL tables at party are the easiest on the internet to beat. Just wait for pocket pairs, suited connectors and premium hands then when you hit the nuts or near nuts go all in, get idiots to call and profit. It's a great low risk/high reward strategy for clearing bonuses there too. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Loke at August 14, 2005, 9:06 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | Wow, nice apology! A rare instance in the online world to say the least.
As for Party, I AM one of the newbies. THis latest Party reload was my first attempt at NL. I've been meaning to try it and this bonus seemed like a good oppurtunity. I only played the very LL though, $25NL. I ended up at about 29BB/100 hands so I was pretty pleased. The key was, as mentioned before, I just played premium hands, plus suiteded connectors and any pocket pairs. If they missed, I got out of the way. If they hit, I'd usually get called down by worse hands. There's money to be made there, but nowhere in the 2k range unless you play a ton of hands. No idea about higher levels. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: hawkeen at August 14, 2005, 12:58 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | Yeah I was an ass. My apologies. I was in different mindset. I was getting killed at party. The last hand I played at party was so funny. I finally made back all of my money I had lost and then a nice little profit. I have four tables open and decide to cashout to go to my favorite site. I close three of the tables and on the fourth table, I see pocket 9's. I decide to call the preflop raise with them and see what happens before I leave. I flop trip nines on rainbow flop and some dude calls huge reraises by me on flop and turn to catch his runner runner flush so I end up losing all of my profit and some more...lol.
Here is what I think about party NL tables.
1. there are a lot of good players at party that make nice living there
2. there are lots of fish there as well
3. I think my table selection needs work because I run into a lot of 1's instead of 2's.
again, JP and others, I apologize. I am not normally an asshole but tonight I was and my wife... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Baseballer02 at August 14, 2005, 12:46 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote: Ok.
My wife just read this posting and she thought I was being very rude. What else can I say...lol.
cheers
Hawk
Admitting you were rude would put you at such a higher level than so many of the pea-brained piece of shit posters who visit these forums. Hated to come across like I did in my past replies, but I really hate to see someone be totally disrespectful to someone who tries to help out. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: tarheel1 at August 14, 2005, 12:22 am | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | Dude gets over yourself. The original reply said novice players on Party. well you may not be a novice player in general but at party you as much admit that you are. and reading your other posts let?s see cryptos suck absolute sucks and poker room suck. I think I know what else sucks. Listen you posted a question it was replied to in a courteous fashion but you had to get offended and become Mr. Asshole. If you are going to be an ass when someone tries to help just keep telling yourself what a pro you are and leave us alone.
Quote: do you read? or just post lots of posts on this forum?
asshole
Quote: Perhaps you were unable to see that subtle point
asshole
Quote: For a comparison, in 23 hours of play last week at one site, I made 2k on the NL tables and why do I care.
If you read my posts I also think Party sucks
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| Posted by: Baseballer02 at August 13, 2005, 11:58 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote:
If you would re-read my OP, you would see that I think party is not that fishy. I have stated this before. I have accounts at over 20 sites (25 I think) and I am up on every single one of them except for party and interpoker. Now lets do the math genius. 25-2 = 23. Therefore on 23 other sites I do very well. Now why is that? That was the question, that I posed and instead of anyone answering it, I am getting bunch of retarded replies.
If you would re-read your own fucking post, you'd see that nowhere did you mention that you think Party is not that fishy. The only that comes close to a statement of that nature is that you said you think Pokerstars is easier. And is there a fucking point to stating how many accounts you have? 6+6= fucking 12, and what does it show, well I can pull numbers out of my ass as well.
Quote: Second, I do not care who the heck the dude is that answered my question. It was not thought out very much obviously. You want... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: NWCougar at August 13, 2005, 11:49 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | Just my two cents:
1) I suck at NL and I'm up pretty big at party 25NL.
2) hawkeen, you're an assclown
3) I'd pay money to get advice from JP.
4) Enjoy your heads-up battles with slanina.
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| Posted by: hawkeen at August 13, 2005, 11:43 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | Quote:
If you were crushing the games so bad long term, you wouldn't need anyone's help in beating Party, and that's a fucking fact that anyone here would agree on. But you've admitted you can't beat the extremely easy games on Party, which makes it CRYSTAL FUCKING CLEAR that you're a god damn novice poker player. From your response to JP it's obvious you're a worthless piece of novice shit that can't give a simple thank you when one of the great NL players of this forum gives you advice. Get the fuck over yourself already, you're not crushing shit.
If you would re-read my OP, you would see that I think party is not that fishy. I have stated this before. I have accounts at over 20 sites (25 I think) and I am up on every single one of them except for party and interpoker. Now lets do the math genius. 25-2 = 23. Therefore on 23 other sites I do very well. Now why is that? That was the question, that I posed and instead of anyone answering it, I am getting bunch of retarded repli... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Baseballer02 at August 13, 2005, 11:33 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote: lol..yeah right. Crushing implies over long period of time fish so you need to learn to read as well. As for being an ass, I think you need to look no further than yourself bud.
cheers
Hawk
If you were crushing the games so bad long term, you wouldn't need anyone's help in beating Party, and that's a fucking fact that anyone here would agree on. But you've admitted you can't beat the extremely easy games on Party, which makes it CRYSTAL FUCKING CLEAR that you're a god damn novice poker player. From your response to JP it's obvious you're a worthless piece of novice shit that can't give a simple thank you when one of the great NL players of this forum gives you advice. Get the fuck over yourself already, you're not crushing shit. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Baseballer02 at August 13, 2005, 11:23 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | hawkeen wrote: do you read? or just post lots of posts on this forum? I said I am crushing other sites. Crushing implies that I am not a novice. Perhaps you were unable to see that subtle point. For a comparison, in 23 hours of play last week at one site, I made 2k on the NL tables. At party for similar time, I am down. I can show the same results for couple of other sites but just not party. I do not understand it.
cheers
Hawk
Crushing implies that you're a lucky son of a bitch, and that in the long run you can't even beat the fish on Party. When you ask for help, get your head out of your ass and take in the advice that's given to you, rather than being some little bitch. NL is NL is NL, wherever the fuck you may play it, and JP is one of the best NL players who posts on this forum, so you should be thanking him for taking the time to help your ass. And there's no reason to brag about your 2k made last week, that shit is chump change compared to the bank that some of... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: hawkeen at August 13, 2005, 11:16 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | do you read? or just post lots of posts on this forum? I said I am crushing other sites. Crushing implies that I am not a novice. Perhaps you were unable to see that subtle point. For a comparison, in 23 hours of play last week at one site, I made 2k on the NL tables. At party for similar time, I am down. I can show the same results for couple of other sites but just not party. I do not understand it.
cheers
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| Posted by: JPMcMoney at August 13, 2005, 11:06 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | cant disagree with you more. The party NL games are FULL of fish. A strategy i suggest to novice NL players on party, for instance is to tighten up and only play premium hands. when u get them, bet the hell out of them. Punish the fish. Also, call preflop raises with any pair, as long as the preflop raise is reasonable (3-5x the BB). Reason being, if you flop your set, most players will pay off their stack with their big pair.
JP
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| Posted by: hawkeen at August 13, 2005, 10:34 pm | | Topic: how do you make money at party NL ring tables???? Forum: Bonus Whores | I am crushing like 4-5 other sites for some serious dough but cannot get even on party. What gives? I am thinking of not playing there anymore because of this. Anyone else have similar reactions? What strat works well there??
I am thinking that it is because of all the software that is available to use on party. I mean pokerstars is MUCH easier than party when it comes to NL ring games. Any thoughts..
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