| Posted by: Osric at September 7, 2005, 3:42 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | The absolute worst case scenario, assuming that there is a drag on BB/100 is that it will last for 45 days, at which the previous group of newbies are thrown into the normal tables. Now there will be some players with minor experience and reinforced bad habits playing at the tables and new players with bad habits will be added daily. So if it bugs you so much, stop playing for 45 days and then jump back in on Party. You'll notice absolutely no difference.
And yes, that was me posting under dabaker. Set my dad's new system up last weekend.
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| Posted by: AlexAtlas at September 7, 2005, 3:58 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | hofdaddy wrote: Anyhoo, I would call myself a fish if I were to play the NL $1K games at Party but I wouldn't call myself a fish at the NL $100/200 games. See what I am saying?
Yes. Same with me.
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| Posted by: hofdaddy at September 6, 2005, 9:49 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | AlexAtlas wrote: Probably alot of the people here are kidding with you. Personally I think an awerage BW player is only alittle bit better than the average fish.
It seems like to many here focus more about how to clear bonuses instead of becomming a better player.
People playing poker without self confidence will never perform at high levels.
I've always played to be a better player. The bonus money is just icing on the cake or cookie or brownie, w/e you prefer. Anyhoo, I would call myself a fish if I were to play the NL $1K games at Party but I wouldn't call myself a fish at the NL $100/200 games. See what I am saying?
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| Posted by: AlexAtlas at September 6, 2005, 7:24 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Probably alot of the people here are kidding with you. Personally I think an awerage BW player is only alittle bit better than the average fish.
It seems like to many here focus more about how to clear bonuses instead of becomming a better player.
People playing poker without self confidence will never perform at high levels.
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| Posted by: jackbauer at September 6, 2005, 1:48 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | | I love how everyone thinks that they are so great here by calling everyone else "fishes". Nice to know so many pros play here. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: AlexAtlas at September 6, 2005, 11:02 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Aust1227 wrote: Why aren't other people outraged at this?
This is going to have a serious effect on BB/100..
Come on, dont you believe in your skills?
Be a macho player
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| Posted by: BadBeatBill at September 6, 2005, 9:34 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Well I for one haven't noticed any difference in the regular tables, but I don't necessarily think this is quite a bad thing. I mean, it's in Party's best interest to let the new players play with other new players for a chance to learn, right? And besides, these are just new players to Party...not all these players can be bad. It's not like they're segregating everyone who lost a certain amount from those who won a certain amount.
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| Posted by: B-hustler at September 6, 2005, 12:31 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | smutgremlin wrote: On the topic of segragation. Partypoker is the only Party skin that I found to have the 100/200 limit games. I did not see this limit on Mulitipoker the last few times i played there as well as Eurobet. This difference to me seems like an attempt by Partypoker to differentiate themselves from their skins. Usually in the past the only difference I have found in the skins have been in the tournaments that are offered. Thoughts on this too anyone?
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| Posted by: hofdaddy at September 5, 2005, 5:31 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | dabaker wrote: Let the fishies breed for 90 days in this friendly environment. Let them learn that J4o has a good chance of winning and that the standard is 6 people seeing the flop. Let them get hooked on the game and accustomed to making the "wrong" decisions with great frequency. Let them become more confident in the micro limits so that they get a little experience in 2/4 and 3/6 games with other fish. I'll take my fish nice and fat when they come to the deeper waters where I hunt. With all the "experience" they gained for 90 days in the shallow waters, they'll be more likely to reach deeper in their pockets when they hit a "temporary skid" in the real games.
I'm gunna get you little fishy.....
*heh* I just noticed that I'm logged in under my dad's new computer. It's Osric here. Not some dumb newbie making fun of the little fishes out there.
This post is totally n00bish!
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| Posted by: smutgremlin at September 5, 2005, 4:09 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | | On the topic of segragation. Partypoker is the only Party skin that I found to have the 100/200 limit games. I did not see this limit on Mulitipoker the last few times i played there as well as Eurobet. This difference to me seems like an attempt by Partypoker to differentiate themselves from their skins. Usually in the past the only difference I have found in the skins have been in the tournaments that are offered. Thoughts on this too anyone? | | Static Link |
| Posted by: dabaker at September 3, 2005, 8:35 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Let the fishies breed for 90 days in this friendly environment. Let them learn that J4o has a good chance of winning and that the standard is 6 people seeing the flop. Let them get hooked on the game and accustomed to making the "wrong" decisions with great frequency. Let them become more confident in the micro limits so that they get a little experience in 2/4 and 3/6 games with other fish. I'll take my fish nice and fat when they come to the deeper waters where I hunt. With all the "experience" they gained for 90 days in the shallow waters, they'll be more likely to reach deeper in their pockets when they hit a "temporary skid" in the real games.
I'm gunna get you little fishy.....
*heh* I just noticed that I'm logged in under my dad's new computer. It's Osric here. Not some dumb newbie making fun of the little fishes out there.
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| Posted by: anabolicaces at September 3, 2005, 5:30 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | They've removed the limits above 1/2 and added micro.
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| Posted by: bb88 at September 3, 2005, 12:40 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Plus, lots of the fish will already think they're great and decide that they are above such "beginner's tables", and decide to show the big boys they're better than them.
Plus, theres a good chance they'll move up after playing the beginners tables, thinking that they are great.
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| Posted by: phatlad at September 3, 2005, 11:27 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | todd wrote: Aust1227 wrote: Slansky would shoot all of you! These beginner tables are taking so much dead money off the regular tables. I am completely amazed at the lack of knowledge by you fellow whores that "support" the beginner tables.
It is true that they are taking short-term dead money off, but they are making the argument that the long-term dead money pile may be larger than the short-term loss.
I don't know whether they are right or wrong, but I cannot see why they would be obviously and clearly wrong. By simply saying that they are taking the dead money off of the table right now, you aren't addressing their argument at all.
Exactly. How many n00bs come on line, deposit 50 bucks, lose it withing 23 minutes and vow online poker is rigged and will never play again?
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| Posted by: elric at September 3, 2005, 10:00 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Aust1227 wrote: Slansky would shoot all of you! These beginner tables are taking so much dead money off the regular tables. I am completely amazed at the lack of knowledge by you fellow whores that "support" the beginner tables.
I am not sure about Slansky but I am sure that Sklansky would agree that removing the really bad players from the tables does not help.
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| Posted by: todd at September 3, 2005, 9:31 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Aust1227 wrote: Slansky would shoot all of you! These beginner tables are taking so much dead money off the regular tables. I am completely amazed at the lack of knowledge by you fellow whores that "support" the beginner tables.
It is true that they are taking short-term dead money off, but they are making the argument that the long-term dead money pile may be larger than the short-term loss.
I don't know whether they are right or wrong, but I cannot see why they would be obviously and clearly wrong. By simply saying that they are taking the dead money off of the table right now, you aren't addressing their argument at all. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Aust1227 at September 3, 2005, 7:47 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | | Slansky would shoot all of you! These beginner tables are taking so much dead money off the regular tables. I am completely amazed at the lack of knowledge by you fellow whores that "support" the beginner tables. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Bluffy-Girl at September 3, 2005, 3:48 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Anybody up for 'new account' whoring? Just kidding!!!
Seriously, I am supportive of the idea of giving a new player a few months to develop a warm and cozy feeling about playing online, in exchange for the opportunity to have him/her at my table for the next 50 years. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: B-hustler at September 3, 2005, 2:55 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Aust1227 wrote:
You guys need to wake up! Have you looked at the beginners tables? They have HUGE pots and everyone seeing the flop. These beginners tables are costing us a lot of money. I am amazed that there is not an uproar
The beginner tables are definitely 5 times looser than the regular tables, and there are very few good players. I've been playing 1/2 limit beginners for the reload, and at one table the average pot was pushing $30.
One pot actually reached $125, the highest I've ever seen for 1/2 limit.
They've also added micro tables (0.15/0.30 and 0.25/0.50) since the last time I played... | | Static Link |
| Posted by: asws2004 at September 3, 2005, 1:16 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | | not to mention the people who beat the 1/2 beginners and then confidently move to 2/4 for real and then will get crushed...as a 2/4 and up player, I'm down with this. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: phatlad at September 3, 2005, 12:14 am | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores |
Been this way for a month.
I don't see how this would have a big effect, honestly. All the fishes there playing against each other, all playing shitty cards and seeing the flop. Under that scenario, what usually wins hands? Shitty cards.
So, the shitty players keep playing shitty cards, thinking they'll win, because they won a huge amount of money at the shitty beginner's table doing the exact same thing. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Aust1227 at September 2, 2005, 8:03 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | bchockey097 wrote: There are so many horrible players there taht it actually wont make that big a difference. That is only for new sign-ups and since party is already the biggest site out there it already has plenty of bad players at the tables. Don't get me wrong you are right in a sense however it really shouldn't make that big a difference, solid play will still crush any party table..
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| Posted by: bchockey097 at September 2, 2005, 6:05 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | There are so many horrible players there taht it actually wont make that big a difference. That is only for new sign-ups and since party is already the biggest site out there it already has plenty of bad players at the tables. Don't get me wrong you are right in a sense however it really shouldn't make that big a difference, solid play will still crush any party table..
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| Posted by: Aust1227 at September 2, 2005, 5:14 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | anabolicaces wrote: Any new player gets 90 days at those tables before they're locked out. So the tables will not that large an effect on things.
Are you serious? This will have a huge affect on the games. even having one fish at each table can make a night profitable, now all the fish are congregating in the pools far away from teh sharks. it is bull crap! | | Static Link |
| Posted by: anabolicaces at September 2, 2005, 5:04 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | | Any new player gets 90 days at those tables before they're locked out. So the tables will not that large an effect on things. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Aust1227 at September 2, 2005, 3:19 pm | | Topic: Party, segregation Forum: Bonus Whores | Have you all noticed the new tables at Party? They now have "beginner" tables. Evidently they are trying to seperate the fish from the sharks. Of course I tried to sit at the beginners tables, of course it didn't work.
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