| Posted by: Djeff at May 28, 2001, 9:07 am | | Topic: Riverbelle is fraudulant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Forum: Winner Online |
Ok Spearmaster,
Here is a copy of what I get when I go to Playcheck:
5/8/01 07:14 22752535 View BlackJack 3.00 4.00 1.00 406.00
5/8/01 07:15 22752549 View BlackJack 6.00 0.00 -6.00 400.00
5/8/01 07:15 22752558 View BlackJack 12.00 0.00 -12.00 388.00
5/8/01 07:15 22752569 View BlackJack 20.00 0.00 -20.00 368.00
5/8/01 07:15 22752585 View BlackJack 20.00 0.00 -20.00 348.00
5/8/01 07:16 22752600 View BlackJack 40.00 80.00 40.00 388.00
5/8/01 07:16 22752612 View BlackJack 2.00 4.00 2.00 390.00
5/8/01 07:16 22752626 View BlackJack 4.00 0.00 -4.00 386.00
5/8/01 07:17 22752639 View BlackJack 8.00 16.00 8.00 394.00
5/8/01 07:17 22752646 View BlackJack 2.00 2.00 0.00 394.00
5/8/01 07:17 22752655 View BlackJack 8.00 0.00 -8.00 386.00
5/8/01 07:17 22752668 View BlackJack 8.00 0.00 -8.00 378.00
5/8/01 07:18 22752681 View BlackJack 18.00 0.00 -18.00 360.00
5/8/01 07:18 22752695 View BlackJack 18.00 36.00 18.00 378.00
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| Posted by: MrSticker at July 12, 2006, 11:20 pm | | Topic: Is online poker rigged??? An investigation! Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by LetsGetItOn
heh, I honestly think Online blackjack is rigged. Never seen so many dealer 6's turn into 21's. Live blackjack is legit however.
The problem with online blackjack (or even casino blackjack machines) is that they shuffle after every deal. You can't get a count or even a sense of what's left in the deck. Might as well play "War".
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| Posted by: brown110 at January 14, 2007, 2:45 pm | | Topic: Bodog Blackjack Concern Forum: Card Chat |
poker is based on more skill than blackjack... online at least. If you're in a casino then blackjack is certainly a game to play with great odds for the players... but I find it hard to believe that online blackjack isn't completely rigged.
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| Posted by: DESSERTLADY at June 10, 2006, 3:17 pm | | Topic: Online Blackjack Forum: Card Chat |
I have played live blackjack and do pretty well at it. I just usually have to sharpen my basic skills before I go though. I tried the online blackjack over a pokertime. I wasn't real happy with the results.
Cardsharp, if you are doing well at it Great. Keep it going especially if you are doing better at non pokersites than the pokersites that have Blackjack. If you can get to a LIVE real Casino and are doing well already online, save some of your money for Live Blackjack you should do excellent.
Myself,I'm sticking with Buckaroo Blackjack on pogo
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| Posted by: dw333 at December 30, 2005, 3:26 am | | Topic: Casino Games on Poker Sites Forum: Card Chat |
I have played blackjack in Las Vegas for a long time, and I can definitely say that internet blackjack is not the same. During live blackjack, sometimes, you will get on a roll and make good money, but online it doesn't seem like you can win more than two or three hands in a row. Or, the computer dealer will string 6 cards together to beat your 20. This doesn't just happen once during an online session. It might happen live, but it will be rare. If you want to play blackjack, go to a casino.
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| Posted by: jeffred1111 at December 22, 2007, 7:28 am | | Topic: Turned $25 into $140 today (blackjack) Forum: Card Chat |
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I would never play blackjack online. The odds are against you in the casino. I cannot imagine they would be any better online, although a friend of mine recently claimed to be up 13 million dollars playing online blackjack, only to donk it all back in three days time. Oh course, he has known to exaggerate a bit. If I were up 13 million, I would at least buy a clock radio or something.
Not true. If he started to gain serious money by ariance being on his side, the client would block his Blackjack (blackjack, you perv). They have done for many people. Plus, donking 13 millions in three days, with a cap on the amount you can bet on any hand (1k ?), is ridiculous.
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| Posted by: aka23 at December 26, 2007, 7:51 pm | | Topic: Blackjack online.... Random or rigged Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by casino
I agree with some of previous posts, my iew is that blackjack online (MG and no doubt all the others) plays like a slot machine, to pay out sometimes and not others. How else do the online casinos manage their risk and maintain their payout percentages? Land based casinos ery occassionally have losing nights, do you think online casinos could ever lose?
I've seen payout audits of ery small casinos who have had losing months (not just losing nights). If all online blackjack is rigged, then why do so many bonuses not allow blackjack play or have far increased wagering for blackjack?
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| Posted by: aka23 at December 26, 2007, 9:50 pm | | Topic: Blackjack online.... Random or rigged Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by kakata
Cause, otherwise, it would be like admitting they are rigged..................
Okay, I'll phrase it differently. If all online blackjack is rigged... why do many online casinos initially count blackjack towards bonus wagering requirements, then later drop blackjack as an allowed game, often shortly after many players report playing blackjack and making a gain? Did they drop blackjack as an allowed game because counting it was like admitting they were rigged?
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| Posted by: NASHVEGAS at December 26, 2007, 10:02 pm | | Topic: Blackjack online.... Random or rigged Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by aka23
Okay, I'll phrase it differently. If all online blackjack is rigged... why do many online casinos initially count blackjack towards bonus wagering requirements, then later drop blackjack as an allowed game, often shortly after many players report playing blackjack and making a gain? Did they drop blackjack as an allowed game because counting it was like admitting they were rigged?
CHECK OUT THE RECENT POSTS IN KIMSS'S CHEATING THREAD FOR A MORE BALANCED (IMO) VIEW OF THE ISSUES AT HAND. THANKS!
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| Posted by: lots0 at February 1, 2007, 6:37 pm | | Topic: Tired of being ripped off Forum: Casino Meister |
I did not bother to read any farther than this..."I tried to make some money by playing blackjack"
That was your first and biggest mistake.
What were you gonna do? Count cards in an online blackjack game? And then expect the casinos to payoff?
Here is some advice; If you want to have some fun and have a reasonable chance of winning, play online blackjack....
However, if you want to make money at blackjack... buy a casino.
>>Advice ends
If you want to play Blackjack for Free (just to see if you can really make some money) try this link, Free Blackjack Game.
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| Posted by: News Manager at July 9, 2007, 9:52 am | | Topic: CelebPoker Launches CelebBlackjack Forum: Winner Online |
CelebPoker announced that it has unveiled its new blackjack game CelebBlackjack. The online blackjack room will deliver brand new ersions of the two most popular casino games, single deck blackjack and six deck blackjack.Read the full article at WINNERonline.com
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| Posted by: jeffred1111 at September 2, 2007, 6:04 pm | | Topic: Ultimatebet disables my account from blackjack 'cause I'm winning too much Forum: Card Chat |
It's not the first time Ultimatebet froze an account because it was a winning Blackjack account (some posts on another forum wich I won't link to attest to this). It's true, you can only play if you lose and since they know you should lose (there's no way to beat online blackjack), they want players who run hot to stop minimizing their profits.
Live Blackjack is beatable, online is not.
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| Posted by: Nick at September 12, 2007, 3:12 pm | | Topic: Ultimatebet blackjack Forum: Card Chat |
Does anyone play online Blackjack at Ultimate Bet? Not long ago we had a fair few players at the blackjack tables on Ultimatebet and it was really good fun. I also like their tournament Blackjack games.
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| Posted by: hacklimit at December 22, 2007, 12:30 am | | Topic: Turned $25 into $140 today (blackjack) Forum: Card Chat |
I would never play blackjack online. The odds are against you in the casino. I cannot imagine they would be any better online, although a friend of mine recently claimed to be up 13 million dollars playing online blackjack, only to donk it all back in three days time. Oh course, he has known to exaggerate a bit. If I were up 13 million, I would at least buy a clock radio or something.
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| Posted by: AmadorEd at January 7, 2007, 7:17 pm | | Topic: Bodog Blackjack Concern Forum: Card Chat |
Some Good Advice, Do Not Play Online BlackJack, The Odds are ery much against you, with Very Little chance of making any profit.
Spending your money on a Lotto ticket would be safer than online BlackJack.
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| Posted by: Grant D at November 9, 2005, 7:37 pm | | Topic: blackjack at 888.com Forum: Winner Online |
Hi there, I'm new to this group and to online gambling. I have a question regarding the blackjack at 888.com. Is it fair or do they use inhouse software rigged in favour of the dealer?
I'm a bit concerned as I've played blackjack a lot at land based casinos and have never been butchered the way I was last night. It certainly seemed things were tilted in favour of the house and reminded me of the cheap, rigged blackjack that can be played on pokie machines at the pub. I was playing their online system that does not require any download.
Any feedback on this?
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| Posted by: kimss at December 24, 2007, 2:31 pm | | Topic: Oh my GOD! God d#mn cheaters! Forum: Casino Meister |
I just want to do a followup on the 3Dice Blackjack, after spening quite some hands today. It's obvious that the the system predetermines if you are going to win or not, since when you are on a roll you may pick that extra card and get your 21. Trust me, I've tried. On the other hand, it's isa ersa when the system is in favour.
The thing I do want to clarify however, is that - first time for me that is - possible to accually win on the blackjack. The system however is ery streaky, indeed, but you might just get that streak in your favour.
It's online, but from all the other casinoes I've played at this has to be the blackjack I like the most. (surely since I accually managed to win in the blackjack in places I was sure the dealer would throw a 21, like other certain casinoes).
So, a sort of clarification there - I still have my opinions, however online we don't have much to choose from. We have MG, RTG and a few others. 3Dice has to be the fairest I would say atleast.
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| Posted by: AceZWylD at June 6, 2006, 5:28 pm | | Topic: Online Blackjack Forum: Card Chat |
Hmm...I've watched some of my friends play blackjack online, and that shit is rigged like no other.
My friend tried at Paradise Poker, where the minimum bet is .10 and the max bet is $300. He would start at .10 and double his bet when he hit a loss. To reach the $300 max bet, you would have to lose 13 consecutive hands, which is next to impossible if you play basic blackjack strategy. Guess what. My friend won for a little while and was up $65 on the site. Then he hit a losing streak, and lost 14 straight hands. Half of the $1000 he won in an MTT earlier in the day was gone.
In blackjack the dealer has odds of 52/48, which is not a ery large margin. Even if you stood on every hand, you would not lose 14 straight hands, as eventually the dealer will hit lower than you or bust. It is impossible to go on that kind of losing streak in blackjack, but I hear it happens in online blackjack all of the time.
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| Posted by: Jetset at July 8, 2002, 8:11 am | | Topic: Poll: Best software group. Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by slotski:
Jetset, do you have a list of them?
Yes, but it is out by about three some months and they are bringing new stuff on all the time...this is what I have (I'll have to update again soon - I record all of 'em as they come on but have to extract them from my database for a list like this):
Casino On Net / Cassava Enterprises
1 All Seasons Blackjack
2 The Online Casino
10 Casino House
1st Free Lotto
5 Stars
98 Percent Payout
A Casino
Abaco Online Casino Gambling
Acapulco
Aces Blackjack Gambling Online
Aces Online Internet
All seasons
AMC
Avia
Baccarat Players Online
Best Internet
betting Secure Online Gambling
Blackjack 4 U
Caribbean Casino UK
Casino Casino Online
Casino Co Casino
Casino 4 Net
Casino Gems
Casino Internet
CasinoOnline Casino
Casino Online UK
Casino Plex
Casino Sunrise
Casino On Top
Casino Trust
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| Posted by: Bet2Gamble.com at May 17, 2002, 8:14 am | | Topic: Question for Yall Forum: Winner Online |
Does anyone know of any casinos besides the ones below that offer US$2,000 or more per hand Blackjack?
1. Aces High Online Casino
2. Blackjack Ballroom
3. CrownGames
4. Golden Tiger Online Casino
5. Virtual City Casino
6. Zodiac Casino
Thanks in advance.
C.M.
www.bet2gamble.com
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| Posted by: kakata at December 26, 2007, 8:44 pm | | Topic: Blackjack online.... Random or rigged Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by aka23
I've seen payout audits of ery small casinos who have had losing months (not just losing nights). If all online blackjack is rigged, then why do so many bonuses not allow blackjack play or have far increased wagering for blackjack?
Cause, otherwise, it would be like admitting they are rigged..................
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| Posted by: lojo at December 29, 2007, 10:31 am | | Topic: Blackjack online.... Random or rigged Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by winbig
Not too far off topic, but for those of us that frequent B&M casinos:
Would you actually sit down and play blackjack at a table where they shuffled after every hand? Single deck or 6+ deck shoe, it doesn't matter.
I never really thought of it like that, but now that I have, I think I'll stick to slots when playing online. No more online BJ for me.
A blackjack player who is out to beat the edge looks for every advantage possible... it's tough enough with a single deck and downtown rules. But some of us are gamblers, hell yes I'll double on a twelve online I'm a gambler.
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| Posted by: mustang at August 7, 2002, 6:56 am | | Topic: The Wizard puts his seal of approval on CLOCKMEDIA software Forum: Winner Online |
magnek...
If you are so sure about that...then tell me exactly how you know this.
I fully understand the odds when playing "real Blackjack or real VP". The online game is strictly a representation of the real game. It doesn't follow some of the basic fundamental rules that real casinos do.
When you play Blackjack you know how many decks are in play and you have a chance to see all the cards that have been dealt and you know about how much is left in the shoe.
With online blackjack you know none of these things.
[This message has been edited by mustang (edited 08-07-2002).]
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| Posted by: ffbigfoot at April 27, 2005, 6:37 pm | | Topic: Black Jack is my lucky game Forum: Card Chat |
If you read the policies and rules of the blackjack games at all online casino's you will find out that after every single hand the "DECK" is reshuffled. This of course heavily favors the house therefore eliminating any potential edge for the player. It is impossible to win at blackjack online in the longrun of course any thing can happen short term.
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| Posted by: James at April 17, 2000, 1:04 pm | | Topic: Opinion..Should you split every chance you get in BJ? Forum: Winner Online |
NO!
One standard rule is to always split aces and eights, never fours, fives, or tens. You will split 2s, 3s, 6s, 7s against most low cards, and 9s against 2-6 and 8-9 (stand with 18 s. 7, because you have a good shot to win immediately if the dealer has a 17).
The exact strategy depends on the rules of the game you are playing. For instance, in many online blackjack games you want to hit a pair of 8s against a dealer ten or ace, because you will lose a doubled bet if the dealer has a blackjack.
Find a basic strategy for your game. For online blackjack, http://www.thewizardofodds.com has charts for 5 common casino software packages.
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| Posted by: ruzzy1 at February 4, 2006, 6:46 pm | | Topic: BlackJack rules Forum: Card Chat |
ive actually recieved many emails from sites promoting blackjack. seems to be getting more popular lately. i have tried blackjack online ,not a big fan ,seems impossible to win.
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| Posted by: DESSERTLADY at January 8, 2007, 12:45 am | | Topic: Bodog Blackjack Concern Forum: Card Chat |
I have to agree wth brown110 on this myself. I only play at Ultimatebet and that's if it is the tournament BlackJack. Otherwise it's way too much gambling for me in online BlackJack. I would stick with poker.
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| Posted by: ruzzy1 at February 3, 2006, 8:09 pm | | Topic: BlackJack Forum: Card Chat |
i made about 35,000 playing blackjack at a casino in the last 3 years and i almost never go . the one thing i will sugest is like said before dont play blackjack online .
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| Posted by: hellwolves at August 4, 2006, 3:30 pm | | Topic: Online Blackjack Forum: Card Chat |
mmm, personally i just don't like playin blackjack online...blackjack is one o those games i'd much rather play in person and actually get to feel my hands and physically see them being dealt to me...
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| Posted by: MrSticker at February 4, 2006, 6:57 pm | | Topic: BlackJack rules Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Nick
That is also why blackjack isn't so popular online... you don't find that many sites offering it.
Titan & Party have BlackJack. I deleted it from my Party screen but I still get sucked into playing it at Titan from time to time & I lose. The thing about online Blackjack is that at most sites every deal is a new shuffle. Impossible to count cards & the odds are way in favor of the house that way.
Quote: Originally Posted by Greg
Why don't people call it by its proper name - 21. Casinos seem to have adopted the name 'BlackJack,' although in reality its a completly different game.
Even Omaha as we know it today is different from what they played 50 years ago. I guess folks like to keep the catchy names even though they change the rules through the years.
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| Posted by: Tfx77 at October 28, 2003, 10:21 am | | Topic: First time playing mg software Forum: Winner Online |
Im not so sure how close to real game of blackjack online casinos are, on the whole. I found it hard to belive that so many of my 2 x 10's were drawn against a blackjack, the figure was well above 28.75%.
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| Posted by: mizunoboss at August 13, 2007, 5:05 pm | | Topic: Playing Blackjack Strategy Based on Casino Rules Forum: Card Chat |
I made my starting bankroll with blackjack, playing to maximize my winnings according to probablilities, with bonus from online casino: as you say, different casinos have different rules: for anyone of them, there are optimal strategies that minimize the risk.
The casino has ALWAYS an advantage, but is smaller then roulette (less then 1%).
Here you can find tables to play the right strategy at BlackJack
GIOCARE A BLACKJACK: STRATEGIA GUIDA e TABELLE
Bye
mizunoboss
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| Posted by: yrusougly at January 16, 2007, 3:58 am | | Topic: Bodog Blackjack Concern Forum: Card Chat |
I believe this thread needs to be split into 2 separate subjects.
1 online blackjack
2 Bricks and mortar blackjack
Go ahead and use the odds which have been published for playing at the bricks and mortar games. I have no argument about that and I also accept the card counting argument. They are alid in actual games because there are no outside factors influencing the outcome.
For online blackjack, you are a fool to trust that the game is programmed to duplicate real life action. The fact that the online game is PROGRAMMED, is the key to the inability to use the normal odds. As long as a game is programmed, standard odds no longer apply, as the programming influences the game to improve the benefit to the house.
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| Posted by: Mary (aka The Original Mary) at October 26, 2000, 10:43 am | | Topic: Golden Riviera and Fairplay Casino not working at the moment Forum: Winner Online |
On Microgaming sites, I've switched from blackjack to baccarat. Blackjack isn't a 50/50 game in terms of hands won--you should expect to lose more hands than you win; that should be offset somewhat in the long-term with good splits and double-downs.
My best runs in blackjack online historically have been on Unified Gaming sites, from before they changed their rules set on many sites.
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| Posted by: stormswa at September 2, 2007, 6:49 pm | | Topic: Ultimatebet disables my account from blackjack 'cause I'm winning too much Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by jeffred1111
Live Blackjack is beatable, online is not.
Live Blackjack is not beatable since they use multiple decks now its almost impossible to count cards and that is the only way to offset the house edge. Blackjack like every single other casino game is geared towards the casino, how do you think they afford all those nice buildings?
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| Posted by: mustang at August 1, 2002, 7:36 am | | Topic: Blackjack.com - what happend ? Forum: Winner Online |
The "Blackjack.com" domain might not be as good as you might think.
A casino that primarily attracts Blackjack players will not be in business long. As I understand it Blackjack is typically the lowest margin game at most online casinos.
That is why most of the premier casino groups are moving to a lot of regular and progressive slot games...to improve their margin.
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| Posted by: thechern at June 16, 2006, 11:17 pm | | Topic: Online Blackjack Forum: Card Chat |
Yeah once you loose like 4 5 dollars online you think you have to win it back but you just end up losing more. I think poker it was easier than blackjack because you control your own fate, when your playing blackjack and the dealer gets a count of 10 and you get a 6 your screwed. You have like 20% chance of winning its not fun.
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| Posted by: Kyla at March 21, 2000, 12:12 pm | | Topic: Sirius...question Forum: Winner Online |
Thanks for the help and info over here...
Did you see Jerrys' post regarding blackjack and any online casinos offering five-card charlie? You play blackjack alot...thought maybe you might have some input for him...he posted under gaming club question??
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| Posted by: joeyl at January 27, 2002, 2:10 pm | | Topic: Best Blackjack Forum: Winner Online |
Thanks you guys.I have already trawled those 2 sites before i asked.
I can find no mention of anywhere.I distinctly remember reading there are 4 casinos offering the best blackjack online.
I think they became the best by default when the firm that used to offer the best blackjack changed thier rule/s.
I only really play /poker but have decided to check out the beast of blackjack for myself.I figured the best place to start would be at the "loosest",so to speak..
Maybe i got it in a newsletter lately and deleted it 'cause i was'nt into b/j at the time.
Thanks anyway..
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