| Posted by: Marcus Tranter at October 13, 2006, 5:59 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
Yes, In my opinion Poker is gambling because the outcome of any single bet is not certain for that specific result.
I agree that it could be defined as gambling with an edge, but it is still gambling. Anyone who says it is not gambling is just fooling themselves.
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| Posted by: Timprov at October 12, 2006, 8:54 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | jek187 wrote: (Have you ever tried to convince a stubborn relative or friend that you're not gambling?)
First, admit to yourself that you are gambling. Then admit it to them. Starting out trying to claim poker isn't gambling immediately throws everything else you say into a well of distrust.
It's much easier to explain that you're gambling with an edge, and not against the house, if you don't try to pretend you're not gambling. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: pluntzky at October 13, 2006, 3:18 am | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out. | | Static Link |
| Posted by: mike_m235 at October 14, 2006, 1:50 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | Marcus Tranter wrote: pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
Yes, In my opinion Poker is gambling because the outcome of any single bet is not certain for that specific result.
I agree that it could be defined as gambling with an edge, but it is still gambling. Anyone who says it is not gambling is just fooling themselves.
GL, Marcus.
I always tell people, starting with my wife, that I'm gambling. I'm gambling on the fact that most people in the w... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: bart at June 27, 2003, 10:22 am | | Topic: Fortune Towers - scammers or class operation? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by allCasinosCheat:
got newsletter from gambling.com
is gambling.com as reliable as casinomeister?
This is my question now as well. If one advertises at Got2Bet or CasinoMeister, I feel ery comfortable.
From the feedback of most here, the operation in question is not trustworthy. So I wonder why gambling.com is pushing it. I am confused particularly as Julie (Gambling Grumbles) seems to be affiliated with Gambling.Com. Why would they adverise this casino when Julie has already had to intercede with a number of the same family?
bart
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| Posted by: Greek Viking at February 20, 2005, 1:32 am | | Topic: Gambling Federation Spyware Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by TaliaP
Statement from Flaviano - CEO of Gambling Federation
We want also like to thank our colleagues and associates that have communicated, publicly and privately, their support for Gambling Federation over the past few days.
Placing malware on our computers is unacceptable and inexcusable. Only one solution is acceptable: The entire gambling community must squeeze Gambling Federation out of business. The same go for any affiliate that out of malice intends to continue to promote Gambling Federation.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at April 23, 2002, 5:00 am | | Topic: Which is the best magazine? Forum: Winner Online |
Both good. Gambling Online magazine primarily focuses on online entities. Gambling Times is an old, well-known magazine which covers all aspects of gambling, including poker, as well as online (my last two articles are here).
One day you'll see me in Gambling Online magazine as well LOL - just a matter of finding enough time and quality subjects to write about!
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| Posted by: philister at February 8, 2008, 7:41 am | | Topic: roxy palace rip off Forum: Winner Online |
roxy is not a ripoff, they can't afford that. besides that other dude is right you can contact them ia forums, try mailing their affiliate manager at casinoaffiliateprograms.com or gpwa.
they usually respond. even if they don't deal with players they can make some inquiries especially if you go ranting about oid winnings and such
~Go down gambling, say it when you're running low
Go down gambling, you may never have to go
Go down gambling, say it when you're running low
Go down gambling, you may never have to go, no, no
No!~ Blood, Sweat & Tears
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| Posted by: philister at February 7, 2008, 7:41 am | | Topic: roxy palace rip off Forum: Winner Online |
roxy is not a ripoff, they can't afford that. besides that other dude is right you can contact them ia forums, try mailing their affiliate manager at casinoaffiliateprograms.com or gpwa.
they usually respond. even if they don't deal with players they can make some inquiries especially if you go ranting about oid winnings and such
~Go down gambling, say it when you're running low
Go down gambling, you may never have to go
Go down gambling, say it when you're running low
Go down gambling, you may never have to go, no, no
No!~ Blood, Sweat & Tears
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| Posted by: blackjack48 at July 11, 2006, 8:56 pm | | Topic: What's Wrong With An Online Gaming Ban Forum: Winner Online |
About the US ban on gambling.
Since running a casino/gambling site is illegal in the US, how does all this affect affiliates of these casino/gambling companies.
Is it illegal for someone in the US to have a gambling domain and then use that domain for the promotion of the affiliate casino/gambling sites that they are a member of?
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| Posted by: combuboom at July 17, 2006, 9:03 am | | Topic: Skill, luck and addiction. Forum: Card Chat |
My opinion:
I think the real question was whether or not poker is gambling. I explained it pretty simply in the other topic. Look up the definition of gambling. Then look up the definition of the word "certain". Certain is 100%. Apply that to poker, and realize how often you're 100% to win a hand.
Tenbob, according to your logic, poker isn't gambling if you play 10 billion hands. So is it gambling if you play 10,000? How about only 10? What if you played one billion separate sessions of 10 hands each? Was each of those 10 hands a gambling session, yet all of them combined was not gambling? You have to realize this logic essentially doesn't make sense. Poker either is a gambling game or it isn't.
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| Posted by: goodie2shoes at September 30, 2006, 12:12 am | | Topic: jackpot factory, fix your prb or close ur business Forum: Casino Meister |
To this day this is happening also in the flash i get the unknown error message. Yesterday i got an email from someone that use to play at all slots she said she noticed me on one of the other boards and asked me if i would like to go on in signing a petition against the factory and that she was going to write are congressman and tell him her problem and try to ban all gambling in California. I told her that IMO just because of a couple bad casinos i didn't think it was fair to everyone to try to stop the gambling in California. She must have a pretty bad gambling habit because she lost her home and she said that she read the web page at all slots and thats when she started gambling. I don't know if she can actually stop gambling but i will certainly be upset if it happens.
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| Posted by: Steve Adkins at September 8, 2000, 4:56 am | | Topic: Stanley Acropolis Casino- We Are Silly Americans Forum: Winner Online |
Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
Did gambling affect your reputation?
Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?
Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?
Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?
Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?
Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?
Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?
Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?
Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?
Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?
Have you ever committed, or considered... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: SnakeNdGrass at October 13, 2006, 3:25 pm | | Topic: It appears you are from xxxx - leave BW.com -- WTF?? Forum: Bonus Whores | pluntzky wrote: I have no idea why people try to argue that poker aint gambling, if it wasnt, then sportbetting wouldnt be gambling either, because its a game of skill, and neither would videopoker, blackjack etc etc. Not mutch left then. Or how about selling odds on a pokerhand on a odds-exchange?
Gambling with an edge can be done on various types of gambling if you are skilled, but its still gambling.
And even if u use BR management u cant really know that you are a winning player before u have made the gamble to try it out.
So basically every casino is gambling everyday on whether they will make money or not.
Everything you do is gambling. If I take a job tommorow, I am gambling that a better job will not come up. If I walk my dog, then I am taking the gamble that a semi wont plow me into the road. etc. etc.
Poker is gambling, along with everything else that you do.....next the stock market, eating ice cream, porn, and walking my dog will be ... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Mrracetrack at January 20, 2002, 12:33 am | | Topic: Actually getting out of a casino with winnings intact? Forum: Winner Online |
Gamerz,
Obviously you should NOT be
involved with on line gambling,
or ANY type of gambling activities.
Even if you HAD cashed out your winnings,
do you really think that a day or two
later, this same senerio wouldn't have
started again?
You need to stay away from anything
related to gambling.
I think you already know that.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at February 14, 2006, 7:53 am | | Topic: Bellavegas won't pay 20K in winnings Forum: Winner Online |
Quote:
Online gambling is illegal in the United States of America, period
Incorrect. Please state who made this claim. Just because the Justice Department "considers" Internet gambling illegal does not in any way mean it is illegal - otherwise they would state that "Internet gambling is illegal".
There are only a few states that have declared Internet gambling expressly illegal. The federal government is not considered to have jurisdiction over the Internet, nor over gambling, as it has already allowed individual states to determine whether they will allow gambling or not. Nevada is one of those who regulates gambling - but to bring the entire United States into this is quite unwarranted.
And welcome back, Dave - long time no see
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at September 28, 2005, 12:17 pm | | Topic: Fortune Lounge/ Belle Rock spam from Casino Prophet aka shawn bercovitz or Richards Forum: Winner Online |
Fortune Lounge, could you also have a look at Usenet. rec.gambling.blackjack, rec.gambling.craps, rec.gambling.lottery, rec.gambling.misc (available through google at http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.blackjack, etc.)
are nothing but spam now, quite a lot of it for arious FL casino. A year or so ago r.g.blackjack and r.g.craps were quite good newgroups, but casino spam killed them. Why don't you have someone check it out and terminate all spamming affilates?
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| Posted by: ian_go at April 15, 2005, 11:46 am | | Topic: Handling a Real Problem Forum: Winner Online |
If you are mailed the below questionaire from a Trident group casino you may be able to figure why
Gamblers Anonymous offers these 20 questions to help you decide if you have a gambling problem.*
1. Have you ever lost time from work or school due to gambling?
2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
3. Has gambling affected your reputation?
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
5. Have you ever gambled to get money to pay debts or to solve other financial difficulties?
6. Has gambling caused a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
7. After losing, have you ever felt that you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
8. After a win, have you felt a strong urge to return and win more?
9. Have you ever gambled until your last dollar was gone?
10. Have you ever borrowed to finance your gambling?
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| Posted by: CasinoNow at July 30, 2006, 10:23 am | | Topic: If you dislike the bikini ladies web sites use... Forum: Winner Online |
I'm a bit confused by Ireland. I thought gambling was illegal there, and that they are only now setting up to regulate it. But then I see Trade Sports operating out of Dublin, and there's Paddy Power and a few others, even Yahoo runs a betting exchange there. Do they just not think internet gambling is really gambling, or what?
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at May 1, 2002, 3:10 am | | Topic: Anyone from Hong Kong? Is it legal to gamble online at HK? Forum: Winner Online |
Actually, Trisha, that's true but not necessarily with regards to online gambling.
Gambling is banned in most countries, with the exception of what usually turns out to be government lotteries and racing.
Online gambling, however, is only officially banned in mainland China and South Korea. No other country has specific laws relating to this issue - not even Singapore.
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| Posted by: News Manager at September 19, 2007, 9:58 am | | Topic: Reaction: Gambling Prevalence Survey 2007 Forum: Winner Online |
The Gambling Commission survey of the prevalence of gambling and problem gambling suggests there has been little change since 1999. Politicians, campaigners and church groups give their iews on the findings.Read the full article at WINNERonline.com
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| Posted by: Mousey at December 1, 2007, 2:19 pm | | Topic: Online gambling case pits Antigua against U.S. and challenges WTO Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by jetset
40 000 REASONS TO OPPOSE ONLINE GAMBLING?
According to an article on Gambling Web this week, quoting from the Internet webcast "Perspectives," the wannabe nemesis of online gambling, Congressman Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, has accepted almost $40 000 in campaign funds from the horse racing industry.
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Goodlatte has been ociferous in his efforts to get online gambling banned or hamstrung. Last month, he appeared before the House Judiciary Committee hearing on online gambling assembled by Congressman John Conyers, where he again insisted that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act - which seeks to prohibit financial transactions with online gambling companies - be enforced with criminal prosecutions.
Just a good ol' boy, looking out for horse racing. Pardon me while I
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| Posted by: Irexes at March 13, 2007, 8:08 am | | Topic: Advertising gambling in the UK Forum: Card Chat |
Legislation about advertising gambling in the UK.
BBC NEWS | UK | Gambling ads ban to be scrapped
"And as with alcohol, anyone promoting gambling must not link it to sexual success or enhanced self-image."
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| Posted by: James at May 5, 2000, 11:13 am | | Topic: Golden Palace victim count at least FIVE Forum: Winner Online |
It will be in the Gambling Grumbles section of www.gamblingcommunity.com
This can also be reached from the "Gambling Community" menu item at gambling.com
Casino Player magazine just told me they were looking into it as well.
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| Posted by: KMC1828 at August 31, 2007, 8:07 pm | | Topic: New Tax Law Forum: Card Chat |
wouldnt this still fall under the gambling luxury taxes or something? (im not sure how much that tax is compared to the new law one) i know that there is a gambling tax on big wins (lottery etc), so why would a poker tournament be anything different? the government considers poker gambling, so why should their laws show otherwise?
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| Posted by: News Manager at June 29, 2007, 9:20 am | | Topic: Gambling Commission Wants Responsible Ads Forum: Winner Online |
The Gambling Commission has responded to the Advertising Association’s consultation on gambling advertisements calling for social responsibility when advertising gambling.Read the full article at WINNERonline.com
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| Posted by: zrapture at May 10, 2002, 11:33 am | | Topic: Gambling Destroys Forum: Winner Online |
I agree gambling can be a problem depending on the individual. I disagree with your statement that it could happen to anyone. Many personalities are less prone to have gambling problems.
The fact that your were a succussful business man probably means you are highly competitive, which unfortunately can be a bad quality when gambling. Competitve players often chase losses.
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| Posted by: James at September 5, 2000, 10:24 am | | Topic: How to get a top site at gambling.com Forum: Winner Online |
I would assume that they are all looking for naive newcomers. When I first started gambling online almost a year ago, gambling.com, including the topsites poll list, was the first place I looked for new casinos to try.
Now I hardly ever go to gambling.com anymore, because loading 100 animated banners on every d**n page practically shuts down my computer.
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| Posted by: blackjack48 at July 11, 2006, 8:41 pm | | Topic: What's Wrong With An Online Gaming Ban Forum: Winner Online |
Here's a question.
How does this law or the fact that they say internet gambling is illegal in the US affect those of us who are in the US and are affiliates of these casino/gambling companies.
If I was to own a gambling related domain for the use of promoting the casino sites that I am an affiliate of, how am I affected by these laws??
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| Posted by: Dirk_Dangerous at January 19, 2002, 5:38 pm | | Topic: Actually getting out of a casino with winnings intact? Forum: Winner Online |
Any suggestions?
Are you sure you don't have a gambling problem? I don’t say this to be a smartass, rather I don’t want to see someone get hurt gambling, and your post, at first glance, suggests that you are unable to exercise discipline when it comes to gambling.
To be honest, I cash out a winner ery frequently, and I’ve never gone back and reversed a cash-in.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at February 14, 2006, 10:23 am | | Topic: Bellavegas won't pay 20K in winnings Forum: Winner Online |
There's a difference between saying online gambling is illegal and online gambling is not considered to be legal.
You don't see cigarette ads all over the place. Does that mean smoking is illegal?
Let me put it another way. If online gambling is illegal, why is Congress trying (and failing) to pass laws to make online gambling illegal?
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| Posted by: Jetset at October 25, 2000, 1:58 am | | Topic: Spam Forum: Winner Online |
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| Posted by: luckymeki at June 19, 2006, 8:50 am | | Topic: NE hacked, CON won´t repay me although they got my money($4700) Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by Linus
Well, internet gambling is illegal in the US. So getting help from the police is going to be a longshot, at best.
Actually - the issue is not gambling - although the end product was gambling.
The issue of concern is someone using a Neteller account hacking to forge credit usage from one point to another point.
That is a crime. A Federal Crime.
Prove that first - then rebut with the casino.
If Neteller is agreeing that the account was hacked - Neteller should be liable for the losses. Just my way of thinking.
However, it is a crime - regardless of the legality of gambling. (Which, only WA has managed to make online gambling illegal, to the best of my knowledge.)
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| Posted by: James at June 9, 2000, 3:07 pm | | Topic: bored Forum: Winner Online |
Since we were talking about gambling books...
For an excellent, well-organized selection of the best gambling books (at ery good prices), I highly recommend Conjelco.
Chuck sells every good book on gambling I have read (that's still in print), and none of the awful ones I see clogging bookstore shelves. He has offered good deals and good advice to wired gamblers since the early days of rec.gambling, long before amazon.com became a household name.
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Just a happy customer.
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| Posted by: aka23 at November 4, 2006, 5:59 pm | | Topic: Jackpot Factory Refuses To Tell Me Why I Was Banned Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by happygobrokey
was she your ex when she came over to play? was she only in the relationship for your 30k gambling winnings? what else did she do on this isit to you? more details, please!
She wasn't my ex at the time, she busted every time she attempted gambling, and she hated my gambling due to the amount of time spent.
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| Posted by: hhcfreebie at June 20, 2003, 8:58 am | | Topic: Wanted=honest casibo-if possible Forum: Winner Online |
Please stop gambling and quit your accounts now.
It seems you think you can "win" big bucks from casinos.
I don't know if they are cheating or not, but I do know this: the more you play, the more you loose
Most people start online gambling for the bonus, they profit a little but eventually end up gambling for real. Real gamblers always loose in the end.
I really hate to see you throw away your hard earned money like this.
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| Posted by: 2_cents at June 27, 2002, 6:59 am | | Topic: Casinos where you felt you didn't stand a chance! Forum: Winner Online |
Ladbrokes casino about 18 months ago, dropped £1000 on BJ.
Stopped me gambling for nearly a year!
Even now when I play BJ I am too worried about increasing my bets that I end up always losing. It basically ruined my game and took the fun out of gambling for me.
As you can tell it is a bit of a sore spot!!! I'm trying to get back into BJ but that ordeal is still haunting me.
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at November 17, 2005, 4:00 pm | | Topic: Online Gambling on Sixty Minutes Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Tomcat
A HUGE fact overlooked in regards to potential tax revenue from online gambling is that a large majority of online players LOSE money to the casinos. Any gambling tax paid to IRS would be offset by gambling losses claimed as deductions. I highly doubt that $1.2 BILLION dollars is being passed up in tax revenue but that is just a figure pulled from air to justify regulation. But it gets sticky to regulate online casinos if they are based in non-US countries.
Gambling losses are only deductable as itemized deductions up to the amount of gambling winnings, unless you are a professional gambler. This means that gambling cannot reduce your taxes, if fact, you can lose money and still end up owing more taxes.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at January 31, 2006, 11:00 pm | | Topic: Bellavegas won't pay 20K in winnings Forum: Winner Online |
The US DOJ has "opined" that online gambling is illegal. That is not the same as saying that online gambling is illegal by law, because it isn't. There are no US federal laws which relate to online gambling except the Wire Act, and online casino gambling has already been said to not be covered by the Wire Act, based on a number of decisions already handed down.
Let's not get off track here.
The gambling age in Nevada is generally regarded to be 21.
The age of majority in Nevada is 18. Or 19 if you are still in high school.
By this reckoning, and the terms and conditions of the casino itself, the player's wagers are entirely alid and the casino has no right to rescind winnings based on their argument that the player was underage.
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| Posted by: ChuckG at June 27, 2000, 7:05 pm | | Topic: Cyberland Casino: Trust and Statistics Forum: Winner Online |
colly - gamblink.com and gambling.com are definitely two different gambling portals.
but gamblink also runs gamblingtime.com, thewizardofodds.com and gambleup.com so you may have signed up at one of those sites
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