| Posted by: LittleRockJP at August 12, 2007, 12:48 pm | | Topic: Most Important move in Poker Forum: Card Chat |
Yea I agree, betting patterns are the biggest tell that people have. Unless we are talking about the home game you play every week so you KNOW what people have. The best way to fix your betting is to watch other peoples betting.....not while you are playing, just observe. And you will quickly learn how much betting patterns give away a hand. You can then fix your betting problem
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| Posted by: alan1983 at March 22, 2007, 6:37 pm | | Topic: 3 betting Forum: Card Chat |
But when you say 3 betting is pot size heads up, then youre no longer talking about 3 betting, youre talking about seeing the pot size and betting accordingly according to outs.
Very few bet more than pot anyway, and in ery few cases, so if 3 betting is betting pot, i dont see how that makes pot sizes any smaller, i rarely see any bets over pot size.
And for example, if you have 5 people who called that 6$ raise preflop, and he now bets 6$, and 3 fold to you. Then you wouldnt 3 bet? but bet more according to pot?
So basically its just going back to odds.
When 3 betting gives him odds to chase, you dont do it. When it doesnt, you do. So i dont see how its a separate strategy. Maybe im just not getting it...
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| Posted by: spearmaster at August 31, 2007, 3:31 pm | | Topic: Another capital casino thread (this is hilarious) Forum: Casino Meister |
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Equal betting is considered irregular gaming for bonus play-through requirement purposes, according to the published T&C's at the time of accepting their bonus offer. The fact that you proceeded to place 2576 individual bets of £2 each on casino war in order to meet the play-through requirements in a manner that reduces the margin of the game close to zero, in our opinion is equal betting. I regret that we support the casino's decision to withhold your winnings and return your deposit to you.
Pardon my ignorance... but how is it possible to place an equal bet on Casino War, since there is only one betting spot?
Low-risk betting, I agree. Equal betting, I do not unless I misunderstood the definition of equal betting. What was done here was flat betting...
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| Posted by: robwhufc at July 7, 2005, 10:30 am | | Topic: Bluffing Theory part deux Forum: Card Chat |
Is betting the K technically bluffing? You're not representing an A by betting it - if opponent has Q they are beat anyway. Only betting on Q can qualify as a bluff, as it is a losing hand, but can be played to represent a winning one.
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| Posted by: Mitch at April 13, 2008, 11:50 pm | | Topic: IPN/Boss problems Forum: Bonus Whores | Its been going awesome.
I don't actually sportsbet. I have just been doing mathed betting and now i am really getting into arbing. But i have found it really interesting and a nice change up from poker and casinos.
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| Posted by: NineLions at August 23, 2007, 9:55 pm | | Topic: When to 4bet when you know what your opponent thinks of your image? Forum: Card Chat |
I dunno.
You start by 2 betting/3 betting light from late position like any CR id. They realize that you're doing this so they start 3 betting back at you, so you start 4 betting light.
I would think you've got to keep doing it with the good hands as well as the air otherwise you help them to define the range that they expect when you 4 bet. If you don't, you won't get paid off when you hit a monster.
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| Posted by: withawedge at July 16, 2007, 8:19 pm | | Topic: I will start folding KK preflop. Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by arkadiy
If you have KK and an ace falls on the board, I would stop betting and let the opponent do the betting.
You need to lead out the betting to get an idea of where you stand.
If you check,your opponent is likely to bet. Do you then fold???
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| Posted by: Egon Towst at January 2, 2007, 2:56 pm | | Topic: Rules Forum: Card Chat |
You must not show your cards until all betting is finished. Usually, this would be after betting on the river card is complete but may be earlier in the hand if no further betting is possible because all but one player are all-in and that player has called.
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| Posted by: pigpen02 at October 1, 2007, 2:54 am | | Topic: Bad beat or not help? Forum: Card Chat |
That was not a bad beat. You major betting was after you already had the nuts. You did not draw out a 2, 3, or 4 outter to get it. Good betting on your part, poor betting on PRVZY's part.
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| Posted by: same old at October 4, 2007, 12:34 pm | | Topic: Possible lawsuit against Intrade Forum: Casino Meister |
I think he is talking about Election betting with a stock exchange like betting book on it.
It may be better to put the post under SPORTS or ENTERTAINMENT as this is where most bookies put there election books.
Not sure if you will get much help here with that sort of complaint mate.
is this abritration type betting your on about?.
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| Posted by: diamond_06_06 at August 12, 2007, 12:15 pm | | Topic: Most Important move in Poker Forum: Card Chat |
I would say an important one is to have a cosistant betting pattern, i.e. If raising preflop raise 3XBB weather raising with AA or 72, or betting the flop the same way when you hit a monster (hidden set maybe) or just top pair. Making it harder for an opponent to put you on a hand because of differing betting patterns.
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| Posted by: stormswa at March 22, 2007, 6:51 pm | | Topic: 3 betting Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by alan1983
But when you say 3 betting is pot size heads up, then youre no longer talking about 3 betting, youre talking about seeing the pot size and betting accordingly according to outs.
Very few bet more than pot anyway, and in ery few cases, so if 3 betting is betting pot, i dont see how that makes pot sizes any smaller, i rarely see any bets over pot size.
And for example, if you have 5 people who called that 6$ raise preflop, and he now bets 6$, and 3 fold to you. Then you wouldnt 3 bet? but bet more according to pot?
So basically its just going back to odds.
When 3 betting gives him odds to chase, you dont do it. When it doesnt, you do. So i dont see how its a separate strategy. Maybe im just not getting it...
3 betting is really a preflop strategy mostly, after the flop you have to play your hand accordingly. Also its a strategy that needs a bet in front of you, if you are 1st to open then its ok to 3 bet the... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Trader at October 22, 2001, 6:08 pm | | Topic: Don't play at Sci-Fi!!! Forum: Winner Online |
Mr Delano, I am ery interested in the charge that you consider flat betting in blackjack to be unfair. You did not address that item. The rules on your site say only that non-risk betting does not count toward the wagering requirement.
Besides being ridiculous on its face, such an unwritten rule opens a can of worms that can declare any betting pattern unfair.
Is betting mostly the minimum unfair? Is betting the maximum unfair? Is doubling after losses(or wins) unfair? Is determining the amount of the next bet using a horoscope or psychic powers unfair? What percentage of bets being indentical makes this an "unfair" or "non-risk" strategy?
I have never played at your site, so maybe I am jumping to a conclusion based on only a few complaints. Would you answer the question about flat betting publicly and end the confusion?
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| Posted by: jondo at October 6, 2001, 7:52 am | | Topic: Can someone answer this question...PLEASE!! Forum: Winner Online |
Amateur Sleuth,
No it is not like playing three different slots, betting one or two coins feeds the progressive pot on the same % as a three coin bet. You hit top prize betting two congrats.
Question? Were you flat betting two or changing bets by pattern or "intuition"?
Your screen shot makes a great back ground.
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| Posted by: Clayman at November 4, 2002, 7:32 pm | | Topic: Intercasino - rigged? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by KM:
424 total hands
I don't have time to waste flat betting all the way through a 20X playthrough.
That's interesting because you would need only about 341 hands at $4/hand to meet the $1500 WR.
Good luck to you on the "ups and downs of differential betting". I still like to try the new roller coaster rides at Cedar Point but I suspect the Millennium Force has nothing on you!
I suspect there's a middle ground between the flat-betting that is simply not your nature and how much I'm guessing you are over-betting your session bankroll. Before you play, do you set a min-max betting range and stick to it? I try to. You never tell us anything specific about your betting patterns, especially this negative progression thing you are obsessed with, even though I have asked. I suspect it's because you are ery much a "feel" player and it aries quite a bit from hand-to-hand and session-to-session.
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| Posted by: AceM at June 22, 2004, 6:02 pm | | Topic: Question re: William Hill Forum: Bonus Whores | Both Will Hill and Intercasino use a 4 or 6 deck shuffle from what I could tell I believe it was 4 at the group tables. So yes, I do count and yes so does everyone else at the table that knows how to play.... and it is very obvious because everyone is betting 5 then all of a sudden when the count is favorable everyone is betting 25. I thought it was funny. I also liked playing in british pounds at will hill, because when I bet 15 it didn't seem like I was betting 30.
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| Posted by: Valhalla1 at March 18, 2005, 11:08 am | | Topic: UKBetting: Cleared bonus not withdrawable?? Forum: Bonus Whores | go to http://www.ukbetting.com/casino and login with your poker info and spend the £25 at the blackjack table
i played blackjack for like 3 hours and noticed I had cleared like 0.00001% of the WR so I said fuck this and started betting £10 per hand and of course lost it all quickly
btw I suggest cashing out all your money first leaving only the non-withdrawable £25 so you dont spend any of your own money at blackjack
does anyone ever actually clear this bonus ? I'll admit I dont know shit about blackjack, I was just following the chart on wizardofodds.com/blackjack betting £1 per hand. if you clear it, how do you do it? only way I could see is by betting the whole £25 on the first hand, doubling up, betting £50, doubling up, then grinding it out for like 8 days betting £1 | | Static Link |
| Posted by: Wolfpack43ACC at July 11, 2007, 2:01 pm | | Topic: Question About NL Cash Game... Betting Patterns Forum: Card Chat |
See I just don't get betting the pot when you have a big hand like AA on a flop of J 8 4 or something. By betting the pot you are banking your opponent has a hand, and aren't you trying to maximize your profit? Betting the pot in hopes of him having a hand isn't doing that IMO.
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| Posted by: Dingodaddy23 at August 23, 2006, 3:23 am | | Topic: How do you wean yourself out of being a "rock?" Forum: Card Chat |
response to fpaullson's question:
i'm 3 betting hoping to get the button to fold out a straight draw as a flush draw is not folding. if BB caps im calling. i'm betting a non-heart turn if its checked and calling a CR from BB, or if he donk bets im just calling as 3-betting would really suck
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| Posted by: royalburrito24 at August 29, 2007, 4:56 am | | Topic: Betting on Draws Forum: Card Chat |
I had a small little home game today, and I had a ery big argument about betting on flush and straight draws. My friend believes that betting with a draw is a horrible play because you have nothing and then you are screwed if you get re-raised. I believe that betting with a draw is an effective play because it gives you two ways to win the hand, and also it helps you out on the turn for calling a bet because of pot odds.
Thoughts?
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| Posted by: SHERMSTICK at December 6, 2006, 1:01 am | | Topic: Big Slick Forum: Card Chat |
Hello Admb0m:
I would fire again in that situation as another sign of strength, as one of our fellow chatter's say's it's not what you have it's what your opponent think you have . Also I cut & pasted this from Roy for his advice here>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
BETTING is the KEY to getting a read on your opponents...
It is through BETTING that you find out the strength or
weakness of another player's hand, which is how you WIN in
Texas Holdem...
BETTING is how you get inside your the heads of your
opponents. Especially the ones you've never met or played
against before.
SHERMSTICK
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| Posted by: keyztojeep at June 17, 2006, 6:55 pm | | Topic: Betting Patterns Forum: Card Chat |
Betting patterns are really my crutch for online play. I have to use betting patterns for my tells. Very important to play alot of hands to get good at reading someones betting patterns.
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| Posted by: Woody0 at October 27, 2001, 5:48 pm | | Topic: Official Statement from Sci-Fi-Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Well, I think I know the answer. The player in question wagered on pass for some rolls and on don't pass for other (but not simultaneously). Since we all know that betting pass and don't pass is a no risk wager then this player was taking no risk .
Funny, I saw a player recently in Atlantic City betting both sides simultaneously and as far as I'm concerned he loses at about twice the rate of players on one side of the action. The return betting both sides in craps is close to 97.2 cents on the dollar.
Why online casinos consider betting both sides simultaneously no risk is interesting and peculiar (uninformed?).
Roulette betting both red and black or even/odd makes an easier calculation and with an American wheel having 0 and 00 she will get back 94.73 cents for every dollar bet. If I ran an online casino I would encourage betting both sides of the action provided my bonus was 5% or less of the action.
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| Posted by: tenbob at October 26, 2005, 8:17 pm | | Topic: Raising question Forum: Card Chat |
As far as i know your raise HAS to be double the last raise, so if its raised to 300 you cant make it 500 it has to be 600 or more (n/l). (unless your all-in)
Now heres where it gets interesting, if you open the betting first with a raise to 300, and a player raises to 599 because he/she is all in, the betting round does not re-open. Frustrating when you pick up aces utg and raise only for utg+1 to raise all-in for less that the min, and get 2-3 callers, you cannot re-reraise, because the betting wasnt re-opened.
Get it ? It took me a little while to realise this one as well.
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| Posted by: DrStrange at July 15, 2006, 8:36 am | | Topic: battle of the blinds at Party 50NL Forum: Bonus Whores | Moo, what's the point of betting $65 into a $2 pot? Its unlikely that I will get called by any hand worse than mine (or most hands that are better for that matter). The rare times I do get called, I expect to be way behind. Overbetting the pot is a great strategy when done at the right times (see river bet from this hand).
I think I made an error not raising here but I am having a hard time seeing what good I accomplish betting $65 rather than betting $5 or $10.
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| Posted by: wsalan615 at October 18, 2005, 2:08 pm | | Topic: euro time? Forum: Bonus Whores | one quick question. can you transfer the money bak to sport betting before your bouns get cleared and re-used the money to get the 2nd bonus ???
200 from sport betting -> poker ( get the sign up bonus )
200 from poker -> sport betting
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| Posted by: Lo-Dog at July 8, 2006, 1:49 am | | Topic: The perfect poker bet. Forum: Card Chat |
So I saw some poker show the other day and they showed Daniel Negreanu betting with near nuts. Something like 80,000 into a 600,000 or more pot. It was just enough to get the other guy to wonder and make the call. Of course he won and went on to do well.
Now I tend to win a lot of pots by betting enough to kill the odds against the illain and when I feel I am ahead I seem to be against some kind of draw I want to kill. But I know that sometimes I am not maximizing what I can get out of a pot.
Maybe I scare people a little too much with my bets?
Anyway my question is, and I know a lot of it pertains to what reads I have, what is your stragedy lol I mean stategy for betting when you are pretty sure you have it but the illain is most likely drawing?
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| Posted by: KM at October 4, 2002, 11:06 am | | Topic: Phantom Players at Intercasino Forum: Winner Online |
Don't believe it. It may not have had any impact with two same named players who were not betting and did not get cards, BUT it made a difference (whether large or small) when the non-betting, BUT hand receiving "phantom" appeared at the Let It Ride poker table.
More importantly than the impact (negligible on me I'm sure) is HOW AND WHY DID IT HAPPEN?
If there are glitches with the software AND WE ARE ALL BETTING hundreds or thousands over time, then we/I am entitled to an explanation, not milquetoast apologies.
KM
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| Posted by: hhcfreebie at March 31, 2003, 10:26 am | | Topic: Sun Palace Forum: Winner Online |
Donny I have to disagree with you here...
You won't loose any edge by arying your bet size. Suppose you lost some money then reduce your bet size, your chance of bouncing back is smaller but your chance of loosing even more is also reduced.
All betting systems are equal, there is nothing special about flat betting.
Betting on streak (increase bet after winning etc) will generate more small looses and a big win occasionally.
Betting bigger after loosing will generate more small wins and sometimes a huge loose.
Flat betting is in between. Why so many people choose flat betting? I think they just want to bet the smallest amount possible to absorb the ariance. It's mighty boring for sure.
The other way I can think of is to have a bigger bankroll.
If you want to prove the software is rigged, I'd suggest you to find the rare events in your playlog.
Hope this help.
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| Posted by: dj11 at April 9, 2007, 10:46 pm | | Topic: How Would You Play Quads On The Flop Forum: Card Chat |
You let everyone continue to feed the kitty till the last round of betting, when you bump like hell. If you bet this early, folks drop, and you lose money.
Some might argue to start betting at the turn, when the bets have increased. But you want as many other folks betting into you that if they are agressive, you just passively follow along. If you can sneak a raise in on the turn, great, but it would be best to be behind someone else's raise.
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| Posted by: Grumbledook at November 26, 2005, 5:58 pm | | Topic: Everyone would be proud.. took advice on early blinds Forum: Card Chat |
The first hand I would have put out a continuation bet on the flop, would have probably taken the pot down there, most people check to the raiser and it was a ragged flop.
The hand you had 99 I think was a mistake calling down, there were 2 overcards out on the board, he could have easily slow played an ace or checked a Jack on the flop and have been betting that.
Personally speaking the flop may have been worth betting at, but I would have slowed down there and probably given it up to any betting from that point.
Otherwise the hands appear to have gone down how i woudl expect
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| Posted by: arizsumda at December 28, 2004, 8:23 pm | | Topic: Playtech live games all down? Forum: Winner Online |
Yes up and and running but why do they constantly keep changing their betting limits. USA now has a $1-$25 range, use to be $1-$150 and another,
Club Dice Casino raised their minimum bet from $1 to $5. I keep having to close out my account to move to a casino that has more favorable betting limits. I do use a mild progression so sometimes I need to make a higher bet and the $25 max at USA Casino just doesn't get it. I see Golden Palace has $1-$300 so I'll play there till they change their betting limits.
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| Posted by: Jack Daniels at August 19, 2006, 7:11 am | | Topic: Your Weakness Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by twizzybop
Ha ha.. is this where the point you get skipped you have a drink, you draw 4 and you drink a full beer, and if you draw 2 the guy next to you drinks as well.
Close enough for government work (besides the fact I don't recall). But there was definitely drinking involved. Oh, and betting. Can't forget the betting. lots and lots of betting (in $1 and $2 increments). We modeled it after limit hold'em, that much I remember.
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| Posted by: MrWolf at March 3, 2003, 9:02 am | | Topic: another happy player from casino domain Forum: Winner Online |
Both Casino Domain and Cherry Casino are quick to pay winnings.
However, a warning to all blackjack players -I've just noticed that when betting odd amounts, they don't give you the correct 3-2 payout.
Betting $3 a hand on the multi-hand table, BJs only paid $4 instead of $4.50. However, when betting $4, the correct $6 payoff was made.
Personally I'm disappointed that an otherwise fine couple of casinos should stoop to this.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at December 15, 2001, 1:53 pm | | Topic: do not meet bonus requirements, help!! Forum: Winner Online |
Sounds like a good topic for Jetset!
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| Posted by: Trader at October 22, 2001, 9:13 am | | Topic: Don't play at Sci-Fi!!! Forum: Winner Online |
Flat betting in Blackjack is no risk?
I once saw another site that denied bonuses if you used progressive betting, ie, doubling up after losses. I decided not to play at any site where management was so stupid as to conclude that a betting strategy could give a player an unfair advantage.
Thanks for the warning on these guys. Also avoid any site with rules that are unclear or who has rules that show they are out of touch with reality.
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| Posted by: ian_go at June 2, 2005, 5:52 am | | Topic: Italian police bust illegal betting ring, Serie A club players involved Forum: Winner Online |
Italian police Wednesday announced they had cracked an illegal soccer betting ring and placed 43 people under investigation, including a dozen or so players, two or three of whom were from the local Serie A club Udinese.
Police made it clear that neither Udinese nor any other club were involved or suspected of seeking to falsify results or benefit from betting.
The illegal betting ring was said to have been run from a newspaper kiosk, the owner of which is believe to have deposited the money from the bets into his own bank accounts and then placed bets by computer through the British betting agency Eurobet.
The investigation into the illegal betting ring began last autumn.
Udinese this past season finished fourth in the first division and qualified for a berth in the European Champions League.
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| Posted by: Bombjack at March 22, 2007, 6:06 pm | | Topic: 3 betting Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by stormswa
Taylor and his group of teachers 3-bet alot, what is 3 betting you may ask. Im soooo glad you did, basically it is betting 3x the blind or the bet in front of you.
Interesting thread, but you've mis-understood what 3-betting is. 3-betting is just re-raising. 1st bet is a "1-bet", raise is a "2-bet", and re-raise is "3-bet". Pre-flop the blind (or calling the blind) is the 1-bet. First raise is a 2-bet. So a 3-bet pre-flop is just any re-raise. Typically this is pot-size, which just happens to normally be about 3 times the size of the raise before you.
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| Posted by: GamblinFool at April 24, 2004, 3:08 pm | | Topic: I wanna be a blackjack whore too Forum: Bonus Whores | | Progressive betting lets you exchange many small losses for the occasional big win or many small wins for an occasional big loss. If you want the former, double your bet each time you win (or something similar). If you want the latter, double your bet each time you lose. That's all it does for you. I guess you would be betting more so you would clear the bonuses faster, but as far as that goes it's no different than flat betting with a higher wager. | | Static Link |
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