| Posted by: Geordie at August 26, 2002, 6:24 am | | Topic: Ideal Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I'm not sure about that BJ game, I might just be giving money away there - as for the Roulette and Baccarat rules, its to avoid the 'offsetting bets' cheaters (you know who you are ) Who can grind through the bonus requirements by only having Zero (or the tie in Baccarat) working against them.
Wait a minute, you can only make one bet in Baccarat, can't you (I've never played)If thats the case, then OK, you can play Baccarat for the bonus!
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| Posted by: PokerGringo at January 14, 2006, 8:26 am | | Topic: Virtually free $25 through Paradise/Sportsbook Forum: Bonus Whores | | Easy $35 in 15 minutes. thanks for the heads up guys. I'm really starting to feel like a whore . I played Baccarat, using the method i created some time ago. Of course i had to alter it a bit because my method of playing Baccarat does not call for playing every single hand. I dont really trust regular on-line Casino games but it seem to work. I'm more into poker now a day but just in case someone is into Baccarat or Horse Racing you can go to my website..... www.ultimateprecisiongaming.com | | Static Link |
| Posted by: rasta420 at May 11, 2002, 5:20 pm | | Topic: Aargh Forum: Winner Online |
Any Microgaming Casino playing baccarat betting anything over $100 a hand =/
Never will I play baccarat online!
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| Posted by: theguru at March 13, 2006, 5:23 am | | Topic: Baccarat at bet365.com Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by res244
I’m new to the gambling and sorry if I sound ignorant but isn’t baccarat 50/50? Why should the player or the banker win much more than 50% in one small session.
When I start losing more than 5 games in a row on few occasions I can smell the end is coming and it does come ery fast. It takes the fun out of it completely I mean I could expect to lose say %50 of my money but always
%100. The money is small so I let it be
Baccarat is not a 50/50 you pay a comission if you win on a banker bet and their is also ties. FYI you cannot win in the long run playing Baccarat straight up with no bonus for anyone who thinks you can.
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| Posted by: betting88 at May 18, 2006, 2:47 pm | | Topic: monaco gold casino WR Forum: Casino Meister |
I know it's a trick. Tell u that you haven't meet the WR and cheat you to keep playing, then losing all.
MGC terms: Games that don't count for the minimum wagering requirements are Blackjack (all sorts of Blackjack), Roulette (all sorts of Roulette), Baccarat (all sorts of Baccarat), Jacks or Better (all sorts of Jacks or Better), Craps or Sic Bo (all sorts of Sic Bo).
Of course you can play baccarat with bonus.
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| Posted by: GrandMaster at August 30, 2006, 10:54 am | | Topic: Intercasino changing the bonus system Forum: Winner Online |
I got an e-mail from Intercasino.co.uk today, the codes are now on the website. The most important change is that there are two codes, one that excludes blackjack, roulette, baccarat, craps with WR 18xB, and one that only excludes baccarat and craps with WR 30xB (but interestingly, punto banco is listed as an allowed game ). Intercasino.com has one bonus code only excluding roulette, baccarat, craps, and the WR stays the same.
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| Posted by: king888 at May 26, 2002, 3:18 pm | | Topic: Can you afford not to play? Forum: Winner Online |
two_card
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Vickinz
Sounds like you have your fleets on the ground. I am dead sure about the roulette, but I can not see how it would be possible to beat the house in baccarat. Counting the cards in baccarat will extremely seldom give you an edge.
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| Posted by: Jetset at January 13, 2001, 2:54 am | | Topic: Question for Jetset Forum: Winner Online |
Thanks for the business Mr Wolf!
We would definitely like to expand the games suite when we can, and baccarat will be one of the games we would be looking at. I can't tell you when right now but we would like to increase the selection available and baccarat is a game which many players seem to like.
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| Posted by: vickinz at March 4, 2002, 2:31 pm | | Topic: Instant Action Forum: Winner Online |
Sounds like they found the blackjack unprofitable as it's now excluded; but surprised to see craps, baccarat and roulette not mentioned.
Good to know you were paid promptly...don't know whether to chance baccarat or roulette LOL!
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| Posted by: el nino at May 18, 2006, 7:31 pm | | Topic: monaco gold casino WR Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by betting88
I know it's a trick. Tell u that you haven't meet the WR and cheat you to keep playing, then losing all.
MGC terms: Games that don't count for the minimum wagering requirements are Blackjack (all sorts of Blackjack), Roulette (all sorts of Roulette), Baccarat (all sorts of Baccarat), Jacks or Better (all sorts of Jacks or Better), Craps or Sic Bo (all sorts of Sic Bo).
Of course you can play baccarat with bonus.
those T&Cs are a joke! I remember when i got an email stating that. i wish i didn't delete it now and posted it on here.
Does anyone know where playtech HQ is located?
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| Posted by: KravdraaYvoorg at September 24, 2006, 12:55 am | | Topic: Avoir PremierBet Casino - bait & switch terms and unfair Baccarat Forum: Casino Meister |
It *is* a push! It most definitely is, otherwise the game has a 10% house advantage!
It is a separate bet indeed, but when you play on banker or player, a tie is always a push. Try it on any reputable software (MG, Playtech, Boss, RTG, whichever)
Ties-lose Baccarat is not Baccarat at all.
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| Posted by: DrOakland at November 30, 2001, 4:54 pm | | Topic: Hope BJ play not on way out for bonus play! Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by CasinoNow:
Has anyone ever been offered an explaination as to why Blackjack is excluded. Roulette and Craps I can understand, as there is a way of cheating the system on those games, and back when online casinos first started offering bonuses, the players that caught onto this early had a good ol time making their rounds from casino to casino.
Seems most casinos exclude Roulette, Craps, and Baccarat. I wonder if Vegas Villa just made a mistake and put Blackjack instead of Baccarat. In any case, if I try the VV bonus, probably will play it out with Baccarat.
DrO
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| Posted by: Darien-l at February 28, 2003, 4:47 pm | | Topic: mg promos getting weak Forum: Winner Online |
My understanding of their rules is that you can use any game to double the bonus (my suggestion is a banker bet in Baccarat), but then you still have to fulfill the wagering requirements on something other than Roulette, Baccarat, Craps, Blackjack, Red Dog, Sic Bo or Video Poker. I would recommend Cyberstud Poker.
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| Posted by: DrOakland at February 1, 2002, 6:48 pm | | Topic: Question for gambling gurus.. what chances..? Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Sirius:
I can't believe this!
I noticed a promo on a couple of sites for www.roxypalace.com which is a new MG casino. I think this is the promo you are referring to.
The terms listed on the casino site seem to have changed though! It now replaces the word 'Blackjack' with 'Baccarat' in the list of games that dont count in the promo! So now Baccarat isn't allowed towards the wagering requirements instead of Blackjack!
Potential problems here. I'm not sure if they are trying to catch people out.
More likely they just got confused as to which one they wanted to rule out. Had they stuck with Blackjack ruled out, they would be just like Vegas Villa, where Baccarat is the game to play.
Roxy looks tempting, hoping to hear they are okay.
DrO
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| Posted by: KasinoKing at August 30, 2006, 11:54 pm | | Topic: Intercasino changing the bonus system Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMaster
I got an e-mail from Intercasino.co.uk today, the codes are now on the website. The most important change is that there are two codes, one that excludes blackjack, roulette, baccarat, craps with WR 18xB, and one that only excludes baccarat and craps with WR 30xB (but interestingly, punto banco is listed as an allowed game ). Intercasino.com has one bonus code only excluding roulette, baccarat, craps, and the WR stays the same.
Shame I only have a $US account - I would love to only have 18x WR & give up their BlackJack which seems to take the pee most of the time anyway!
Maybe this move says there are more 'bonus abusers' in the UK than the USA...?
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| Posted by: Wilhelm at July 24, 2001, 5:20 pm | | Topic: 38 Special: Have You Heard from PWC Re: Microgaming?? Forum: Winner Online |
I agree 100%. Microgaming BJ is big time rigged. And they probably set the payout rate just like a slot machine and I suspect they have lowered the payout recently to milk it for all they can. For few weeks last month, it appeared that Microgaming Blackjack had been put on a Random Number Generator and the results were fair but I guess they figured they were not making as much money so they put it back on their patented Microgaming Rigged Card Generator(MRCG). Microgaming is now WORSE than Casino Bar and Manihi group casinos.
Those of you who are new to online gambling BE WARNED, you probably have a better chance of making money on Blackjack at Casino Bar or Ace City Casino(Manihi) than you do at any Microgaming casino.
Another clue that MG card games are fixed is the fact that most of their casinos do not exclude Baccarat in their promotions. 90% of casinos exclude high payoput games like Craps and Baccarat in their promotions but while most MG casinos exclude craps in their promos, t... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: res244 at March 11, 2006, 5:36 am | | Topic: Baccarat at bet365.com Forum: Winner Online |
I’ve been playing Baccarat at BET365.COM and this is how always it goes:
1) I deposit £25
2) Always bet on the banker £1 at a time – I play and take breaks and come back play more – my winnings doubles in a day.
3) I come back the next day hoping to repeat - start betting the same way and I lose everything in around 100 hands.
This happened to me 3 times.
Is this normal with Baccarat? A game with good odds how can I lose so easily?
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| Posted by: LadyLuck at October 1, 2006, 12:44 pm | | Topic: Avoir PremierBet Casino - bait & switch terms and unfair Baccarat Forum: Casino Meister |
I am also a premierbet customer and played on their baccarat game a couple of months ago, lost some money and did not realise there was something wrong with the game... The other day i received an email from them saying that they experienced a problem on Baccarat and decided to refund all the affected customers from the day they launched with all the "incorrect" tie-lose lost bets!!! I got £800 back!!!
not bad after all!
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| Posted by: The Original Mary at February 10, 2002, 9:23 am | | Topic: Tweaking Software Forum: Winner Online |
There's nothing wrong with an infinite deck, if that's what players know they are playing. And it's better for most players.
Here's a Wizard page on it:
http://www.thewizardofodds.com/game/bjapx1.html
If Lasseter's is offering a positive game, that'd be a hoot.
As for counting in Baccarat, according to Thorp and Griffin, it doesn't make a significant difference. The structure of Baccarat as a game is too symetrical. Still, it probably does not hurt to be cautious!
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| Posted by: chuchu59 at September 24, 2006, 11:10 am | | Topic: Avoir PremierBet Casino - bait & switch terms and unfair Baccarat Forum: Casino Meister |
Quote: Originally Posted by KravdraaYvoorg
It *is* a push! It most definitely is, otherwise the game has a 10% house advantage!
It is a separate bet indeed, but when you play on banker or player, a tie is always a push. Try it on any reputable software (MG, Playtech, Boss, RTG, whichever)
Ties-lose Baccarat is not Baccarat at all.
You are correct. Unless they have other rules which are unheard of anywhere else, its always a push when you bet on banker/player and the outcome is a tie.
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| Posted by: Jetset at June 8, 2000, 4:02 am | | Topic: 20 pc bonus Forum: Winner Online |
www.baccarat-babes-online-casino.com offering 20 pc download bonus. Usual caveat - I haven't checked out the detail.
Interesting games mix on the (download) site - there's the usual Random-logic set of games, but also a "feature" baccarat game which is quite different and of better quality. Looks like a Boss Media rendering.
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| Posted by: vickinz at July 18, 2002, 1:41 pm | | Topic: Prestige 50% refund (up to $1000 dep) promo: any hints? Forum: Winner Online |
Thanks. I'd forgotten that approach, having just done it once.
I recall with Samurai and Royal Plaza (when no wagering rules, but doubling bonus amount needed to cash out) and did that with roulette on the colours, and won both on the first bet. Some players had posted what they had won doing that on first bets, and I won on same colours.
Trouble with baccarat is that it could be a tie as the software "plays for time"; I notice that often if I begin with a biggish bet in baccarat, it's a tie and then the other side wins on my next bet - maybe just coincidence!
Well, that's food for thought.
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| Posted by: jbr at July 24, 2002, 7:31 am | | Topic: Lasseters Online Casino Forum: Winner Online |
I also played every game there for 2+ years and found it nearly impossible to win, or even get lucky. Just recently I played their baccarat. First time I was playing on the player side. There were something like 12 bankers in a row!! Then a second time I played banker. Out of 20 hands there was about 1 banker. I lost my entire deposit twice. Never again!
If you can play there try Crown Games, another australian casino group. Their baccarat is ery fair in my experience and so is their BJ.
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| Posted by: Sirius at February 1, 2002, 1:08 pm | | Topic: Question for gambling gurus.. what chances..? Forum: Winner Online |
I can't believe this!
I noticed a promo on a couple of sites for www.roxypalace.com which is a new MG casino. I think this is the promo you are referring to.
The terms listed on the casino site seem to have changed though! It now replaces the word 'Blackjack' with 'Baccarat' in the list of games that dont count in the promo! So now Baccarat isn't allowed towards the wagering requirements instead of Blackjack!
Potential problems here. I'm not sure if they are trying to catch people out.
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| Posted by: vickinz at May 23, 2002, 7:42 pm | | Topic: Microgaming HALL OF SHAME Forum: Winner Online |
The esoterics/math are over my head.
But I have played baccarat on my land casino for 4.5 years (average 3 times a week) until this year. I haven't met anyone who card counts at this game, unlike blackjack where many I know, do.
But dealers have told me of a couple of ery experienced baccarat whales who consistently win in the VIP room upstairs; I don't know whether they use some sort of system or are just lucky.
But I've actually seen some regulars win $100,000 - $250,000 sometimes in the space of a few hours and know it's due to their luck and intuition on that particular day/night; cos they have then lost it all back within days/weeks.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at May 22, 2002, 12:43 pm | | Topic: Microgaming HALL OF SHAME Forum: Winner Online |
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No, I didn't imply you said it - you said it:
Please elaborate on how someone can write a book for the clueless on exactly THREE possible bets which do not have any player input whatsoever.
Hello? Where is there mention of slots? And where is there mention of "beatable"? I think you need a new pair of glasses.
I did NOT imply NOR say that baccarat was about as beatable as slots. I DID say that baccarat has THREE types of bets. Talk about making yourself look silly...
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There's nothing wrong with not knowing something and then learning about it, darlin' - I do it all the time.
I have said before, and I'll say again, that the situation is so rare as to be negligible - to the point of not being worth mentioning. Maybe some of you can make money counting cards at baccarat. The great, great majority will never be able to do so, whether they are clueless or brainy, informed or not informed.
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| Posted by: HKGambler at May 19, 2002, 11:40 pm | | Topic: Microgaming HALL OF SHAME Forum: Winner Online |
Dave R- your quoting of John May & Frank Scoblete did not add any weight on proving or disproving MG is rigged. John May's post above is no more expert iew than some of the many posters here who had the same sore losing experience after some "unacceptible" losing streaks. I am surprised you put them up as a third party evidence trying to strengthen your claim.
You further made use of Frank Scoblete's comment about May's new bj book to further emphasize May's credibility. Come on. They are commercial writers. If you have read alot of their books, you must have known that they had bragged about each others' back on too many occasions.
To me, Frank Scoblete is not as respectable as one might have thought imv, John May has better insights though. I have read thru John May's "Baccarat for the Clueless" and "Get The Edge at Blackjack" as well as Frank Scoblete's "Baccarat Battle Book" over a year ago. Believe me, they are a ****tail of here-there g... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Sgplayer at April 29, 2002, 10:19 pm | | Topic: warning lasseter Forum: Winner Online |
I had been playing at lasseters for about six month and I can tell you all the game behave like a slot machine.when it is time to give money they give, when it is time to take they take.I had been playing baccarat at $20-$100 per hand.After so many month my highest winning is only au$800.I keep on getting the same card when playing baccarat.Take a careful look at their promotion banner.Most of the winner only come in the range of $1000-$2000.Strange to promote when player only win this small amount of money.For fun :Yes! For Money: stay away
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| Posted by: James at July 19, 2001, 3:47 pm | | Topic: Tropika/Microgaming BJ Payouts Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by Trader:
An additional thought: This is why the online casinos do not allow bonus play for craps and baccarat, even though they carry a larger mathematical house advantage than blackjack. It is impossible to screw up betting the passline. The outcome is only based on the probabilities.
No, the reason the casinos disallow these games, as well as roulette, is because they have been burned in the past by scammers who bet both sides (i.e. pass/don't pass, red/black, etc.) for a small guaranteed loss, but giving them a guaranteed profit after generous bonuses.
To my knowledge the only casinos that ban baccarat play are RTG, where it is possible to bet simultaneously on banker and player. This is impossible at Microgaming sites, and I have never seen a MG site ban baccarat from promos.
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| Posted by: caruso at April 29, 2003, 8:10 am | | Topic: Havanah Club Casino Forum: Winner Online |
Two things:
1) I never understood what the fuss was about; the T & C are CRYSTAL CLEAR - no bonuses to be wagered on Baccarat; bonus wagered on Baccarat = bonus / winnings oided. End of story.
2) The casino now seems to be saying they're going to return the player's correctly-voided winnings for further play. Nice gesture, but a mistake. Once you start bugging them to change the T & C in the players' favour, why should they then be expected to NOT change them AGAINST the player?
You can't have your cake and eat it; retroactive T & C changes are bad news.
Respect the T & C and you have the right to expect the casino to do likewise. Ignore them and you forfeit that right.
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| Posted by: Got2Bet at May 20, 2002, 7:20 am | | Topic: Microgaming HALL OF SHAME Forum: Winner Online |
Oh, NOW I get it. Like "dummies", "idiots", we now have "clueless".
Did it ever strike anyone as funny that there is no "Baccarat for Dummies" or "Baccarat for Idiots" books?
As Dirk points out, there are ery limited opportunities in which one could gain an advantage by counting cards. But "Analyzing the Shuffle"? Super Pan Nine, which is NOT Baccarat?
Based on a 144-page book, with 20 pages of history, there are 15 chapters so approximately 8 pages per chapter.
Since the only possible reason one would want this book is for the "shuffling" and "other advantage-play" chapters, you are going to fork out $12 for 16 pages of dubious alue.
I think I'll pass. When May writes a book on online gambling with some real content in it, I might be interested - if I have not already come out with my own - and if I weren't under pressure to take care of other business, my book would almost be do... | | Read Entire Entry |
| Posted by: Jydeman at May 25, 2002, 2:21 pm | | Topic: Winners Playground Forum: Winner Online |
The only RTG casino I play at - although it's been a while.
If you do not claim any bonuses on a deposit, you are only required to wager your deposit amount at least one (1) time before a withdrawal will be allowed. Any wager on Baccarat, Craps, or Roulette does not fulfill your play through obligation.
If I'm a Baccarat, Roulette or Craps-player, and deposits without getting any bonus, I can play my favourite game, but I have to wager my deposit on other games before I'm allowed to withdraw?
A bit stupid if you ask me.
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| Posted by: The_CPA at March 14, 2007, 8:21 pm | | Topic: Fortune Lounge sailing off into the sunset Forum: Winner Online |
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We also see that you only made use of French Roulette and Baccarat to meet the wagering requirements for the bonus.
The Terms:
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Play-through placed on the following games will not be deemed as fulfilling a promotion's minimum play-through requirement: All forms of Blackjack, Craps, Sic Bo, Red Dog, all forms of Baccarat, all forms of Roulette and Progressive Roulette tables, all forms of Power Poker and Video Poker except 1 Play and 4 Play Deuces Wild.
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| Posted by: TrishSands at August 12, 2002, 10:24 am | | Topic: unbelievable! Forum: Winner Online |
Yeesbb's question was straight forward and easy to understand. He did NOT say that at some point over my playing at Intercasino I had a run of cards that did this or that.
He did NOT say that I remember one time out of thousands of hands played "this" happened!
He said "just minutes ago i played at intercasino..i start off winning 12 in a row.....the next 15 hands the dealer won! whats the odds of this happening?!?
About 2-3 years ago I had/have a streak of 48 games of baccarat at Atlantic Interbet in which the player won every hand, I was betting the banker every hand, there might have been a few ties but I don't remember. I never played their baccarat game before that streak began and I never played it since. By Caruso's logic that was perfectly normal as after playing 48 games that was just one of the possible results and I was as likely to lose 48 hands in a row as I was to win 24 hands and lose 24 hands.
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| Posted by: vickinz at June 6, 2002, 10:38 am | | Topic: Suspicious results at Chartwell casino Forum: Winner Online |
I don't play online baccarat, but if random, as it should be, then there is nothing unusual about your results, based on about 7000 hours of baccarat play/observation at my land casino. I always note totals and chart in a ariety of patterns, so I have it in black and white.
Once there was an 8-deck shoe with just 3-4 of one thing and the rest (around 60-75 total hands in shoe usually) of the other. Many's the time when there's been nearly all one thing, until midway thro the shoe, when the other side might begin to win more to redress huge disparity. And yes, l6-22 runs of one side aren't rare, but more usually around l2 max.
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| Posted by: DrOakland at December 3, 2001, 4:33 pm | | Topic: $ requirements for cashins Forum: Winner Online |
Quote: Originally Posted by FairBet:
I’m also not sure whether or not there should be a penalty for excluding BlackJack from the wagering requirements. I understand why Roulette and Craps are excluded, but I am not clear on how a player could use blackjack to “unfairly” meet the requirement.
Ideas? Suggestions?
They are maybe learning that blackjack players are not profitable newbies. But interestingly, the ones that exclude Blackjack do allow Baccarat to satisfy the requirement. I confirmed that with Vegas Villa. However, to max out their 30% bonus at $300 requires that $1000 be played thru once, then the bonus played 8 times, for a total of $3400 in action. Could sure get boring playing Baccarat at $10 a hand!
DrO
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| Posted by: MrWolf at December 17, 2002, 1:28 pm | | Topic: trident lounge casino 200% sign up bonus Forum: Winner Online |
For anyone who hasn't played the booster chip yet and wants a decent hit and run strategy, my advice is simple - bet the $500 max on banker at baccarat.
Most people know the longer you play, the more the casino edge will chip away at your bankroll, so a one-bet plan is your best option. Since there is a $200 max at blackjack, and $100 on don't pass at craps, baccarat allows you to make the highest bet among the low casino percentage games.
About an hour ago I put my money where my mouth is and plonked $500 down on banker.
Player got a king of spades, five of diamonds, and queen of diamonds. Banker received a two of hearts, nine of diamonds - and this was when I held my breath - a six of spades! Merry X-Mas Trident Lounge!
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| Posted by: DALLAS3363 at March 25, 2002, 12:21 pm | | Topic: read the last sentence Forum: Winner Online |
Another far out bonus---As of April 1st-One on One Casino is offering the following monthly bonus:Make a single deposit of $25.00 or more and receive a FREE $25.00 match. The wagering requirements for this new bonus is now $1,000 in total bets to be able to completely cash out our monthly bonus and any winnings(sports betting,roulette,multiplayer roulette,craps,european roulette,multiplayer european roulette,baccarat and multiplayer baccarat excluded)Thats 20x the deposit+20x the bonus and to me thats insane.They can keep it-Maybe they should offer this to the countries that are always barred.I'm sure they're desperate for a little action by now!!
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