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Posted by: The Original Mary at January 8, 2003, 1:35 pm

Topic: Cryptologic Software - Fair? Forum: Winner Online

Quote: Originally Posted by caruso:
C. (Emotional casino owner & shill, whose opinion was clearly not sought but who offered it nonetheless, in all humility.)

All right, what are you up to now, Caruso. I know you're not a casino owner nor a casino shill.

Silly person.

To the topic:

Some software is fixed. Some does not appear to be. Depending on the sophistication of the fix, it can be easy or difficult to tell.

As a general rule, cheap cruddy looking software used by few sites is more likely to be fixed, and fixed obviously.

There is also a difference of opinon as to what is "fixed". In many land jurisdictions outside of North America, ideo poker is not required to behave as a mathematical replication of cards randomly dealt from a 52 or 53 card deck. Video poker is the considered a form of slot machine. Online, www.slotland.com offers such a game.

Not too surprisingly, ideo poker in those markets is not popular as it is in the US.

Video blackjack machines operated in unregulated jurisdictions such as cruise ships also are not so required; their hold percentage can be changed without concern for fidelity to blackjack math.

Many online software suppliers do not specify that their games are anything other than merely random, i.e., do not specify that the ideo representations of casino card games are programmed to behave as their land counterparts. Microgaming does so specify. You will find a list of Microgaming casino at:
www.jackpotmadness.com

All casinos licensed on the Isle of Man must also meet this standard. Those are:
www.hardrockcasino.com www.playmgmmirage.com www.clubfiore.com www.casinoatlantis.com www.littlewoodscasino.com

Online casinos licensed elsewhere do not have to meet this standard.

In the gray confidence zone are those casinos that don't claim to be other than merely random, and those who that have not been proven rigged to degree that is generally accepted.

Whether or not you want to give a casino the benefit of the doubt in this instance is a personal choice. You may want to take into consideration casinos that have management that has demonstrated a reluctance to pay wins; that is a discussion for another thread.

Finally we have the definite "black list" category. I am always working on this list.

Software Found to Have Been "Rigged" (i.e., card games do not behave as card games with respect to distribution of results or overall hold percentages or software is known to be settable by casino operator)

Gambling Software Systems aka Internet Casino Network

Payback percentages can be set by operator without changing game rules or paytables. Multiple reports from former licensees.

CasinoJoes.com
GamblersFortune.com
JokersCasino.com
OnlyWinners.com
PlaceMyBet.net
RomanPalace.com
CodeCasino.com
www.oneblackjack.com www.acasinoonline.com www.0onlinecasino.com www.abysscasino.com www.alpscasino.com www.betuwincasino.com www.thebigbook.com www.blackjackonline.cc www.bluediamondcasino.com www.bodog.com www.casinonetgambling.com www.casinoplaza.com www.codecasino.com www.cyberbet.com www.2xdollarcasino.com

CasinoBar aka CasinoonAir aka iWorld Corp aka COA World Entertainment Ltd. AKA Zone4Play AKA Agent Interactive Ltd.

Tested twice by Wizard of Odds; tested by others; "dealing seconds". Threatened legal action for exposure.

List under development.

Avesta Systems aka ElkaSystems aka Pocketcasinos

50 hands of Jacks or Better lost in a row at casino's invitation to test. Casinos owned and operated by Grand Virtual may also be rigged because of business connection to Elka; this is under investigation.
www.dreamyear.com www.sportsbet7.com www.cashforclicks.com (affiliate program) www.caribbeanpearlcasino.com www.netgaming.com www.pocketcasinos.com/
/www.vipcasinoplayers.com www.1TimeCasino.com www.betplayer.com www.happychancebingo.com www.casino--online.com www.golden-casino.com www.onlinesportscenter.com www.madbonus.com www.mysterygirlcasino.com www.naturalcasino.com www.greenbaycasino.com www.advanceplaying.com www.cyberclubcasino.com www.the-blue-casino.com www.silvervegas.com

Clock Media

First ersion software Double Exposure 21 poorly implemented to have positive expectation; subsequent admissions by programmer of cheating software on WOL and other message boards.

Software now used purported to be honest by company.
www.infinitecasino.com www.cloudninecasino.com www.betorwager.com www.takeallbets.net

MGM Inc.

Can be set to exclude the production of specific hands of ideo poker to alter odds. Source: Gamemaster

List under development.

Unified Gaming

Payout percentage can be set on card games. Large winners accused of using robots, even on negative expectation games.

Abetz Casino
Aloha Casino
At the Tables Casino
Bali Casino
Betmaker Bring Me Luck Casino
Carib Sports
Easy Street Casino
Enterbet Sport Book
Fabulous Casino
5Dimes Casino
Gambler's Palace
Get A Bet Casino
Golden Wager Casino
Go To Casino Hampton Casino
I BET Casino
Island Casino
Mona Lisa Casino
Money Plays Casino
Offshore Action Sport Book
Old Las Vegas Casino
On-Line Casino
OSG Sport Book
Player's Bet Casino Rosies Chalk Island Casino
Royal Island Casino
Shangri-La Casino
Skytower Casino
Snap Casino
Sportbet
Sporting Bet USA
St. Kitts Casino
Tangiers Casino
Tropical Bet Sport Book Vegas From Home
Winward Casino

Diamond Digital Systems

"Aces & Eights" ideo poker impossibly positive expectation if fair; The Gamemaster
www.blackdogcasino.com www.bluesclubcasino.com www.digitalbetting.com www.mangocasino.com www.winnersplay.com

IGlobal Media

Early ersion can be set to exclude single number results bet upon by player in roulette. Author tested; others concur.

This ersion of IGlobal software is no longer in use by casinos. Developer claims new product is fair.

List under development

Handa-Lopez
Casinos no longer using this software: historical text in process.

First Live

Casinos no longer using this software: historical text in process.

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Edited to incorporate corrections

[This message has been edited by The Original Mary (edited 01-09-2003).]

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