| Posted by: caruso at September 25, 2007, 6:51 am | | Topic: Ecogra helps a casino to rob me! Forum: Winner Online |
This is worth a copy & paste, from a reliable player / player advocate. The casino is a different one, but the essence is the same: casino pulling the "irregular patterns" screw, eCOGRA supporting them.
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/189552-post44.html
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Yep. You are missing something. This Casino reneged on a bet.
Here are the terms in question:
"12. Observations of playing patterns such as the playing of equal, zero margin or hedge betting may not be considered as playing in the appropriate spirit for the purposes of meeting bonus wagering requirements. Should the Casino deem that these practices have been utilized for the specific purpose of meeting wagering requirements, the casino reserves the right to withhold any cashins and/or confiscate all winnings.
13. Other practices of playing behaviour which may lead to the casino withholding cashins and/or confiscating all winnings include, but are not limited to, placing single bets whereby the wager consists of the majority of the total available balance and the bonus balance contributing to a significant portion of that balance. Should the casino deem that practices such as this have been utilized, the casino reserves the right to withhold any cashins and/or confiscate all winnings. "
As to number 12, where can I play zero margin? I would like to see that game. And equel betting? What does that mean. I bet 2 units 25 times. I am down. I bet 4 units 25 times. Is that equal betting?
As to 13, I start out with a $25 bonus and a 150 balance. I get down to $35 and hail mary. I win and hail mary again. Did I break the terms of 13.
These terms are so unfair as to not be enforceable. They are the old bonus abuse term renamed.
So what do we get down to? The player made a bet. The casino accepted a bet. Pay up.
What's going on is these guys are starved for players so they are advertising bonues to draw in players. They accept the losing action. Then they look for ways not to pay the winning action.
And eCOGRA backs them up. This is worse then when they used to scream that autoplay was bonus abuse. Now flat betting is bonus abuse.
I support attempts to overturn America's restriction on poker rooms. But I am not going to waste my breath on casinos when the standard setting body of eCOGRA promotes this type of deceptive play.
This is a rogue group.
Amen.
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